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Php Programmers, How Long To Finish Your Scripts? - time spent on creating php scripts

 
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 Last Update: April 6, 2005, 9:54 pm
 
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Hello. I am currently working on kShoutBox 0.5 which has many new features. Now I realize that it's really really and i mean really difficult to create a PHP script because it really do takes your time. Example when I don't know what to do or what function to use, i check out the php manual, and you know, i use the old tradition "Trial and Error".









   Tue Mar 29, 2005    Reply         

Hmm.. I'm currently coding my own source code of message boards. You may find them here: http://subzer0.net/php . I've been working on it for about.. 3-5 days now and the average time it takes me to code a file is about 6 minutes. The adminstrative file 'new_board.php' which allows you to create a new board or category that will appear on the index (or be hidden) took me EXACTLY 6 minutes to code and it was a pretty lengthy file. I think I've been reading my PHP 5 and MySQL book a little too much. >_>;







   Wed Mar 30, 2005    Reply         

Shoutboxes are easy if you are doing it with mysql. Im not reallly good with putting stuff into files. But if I do a shoutbox with mysql, that has lots of features, it would probably take me a couple hours. If it has no features, probably like 20 mins. 6 mins is crazy!!!! :)

   Wed Mar 30, 2005    Reply         


For most of my PHP scripts, it takes me, on average, about 1 hour for a lengthy script. For most moderate sized files, about 20 minutes. I'm not really good enough to make a good script in 6 minutes...I could make a simple one in that time. I'm currently working on a forum, and it's takes me about 2-3 hours each night to work on. However, most of that time is spent thinking about what functions to use. I don't care how long it takes to code a script, I just enjoy scripting in PHP.

   Wed Mar 30, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (Mike)

Hmm.. I'm currently coding my own source code of message boards. You may find them here: http://subzer0.net/php . I've been working on it for about.. 3-5 days now and the average time it takes me to code a file is about 6 minutes. The adminstrative file 'new_board.php' which allows you to create a new board or category that will appear on the index (or be hidden) took me EXACTLY 6 minutes to code and it was a pretty lengthy file. I think I've been reading my PHP 5 and MySQL book a little too much. >_>;

6 minutes? it's impossible. I can make a hello world script! Can you send me a copy of your message board? Your website is suspened. PHP 5? Why don't you use PHP 4?

QUOTE (kiro)

Shoutboxes are easy if you are doing it with mysql. Im not reallly good with putting stuff into files. But if I do a shoutbox with mysql, that has lots of features, it would probably take me a couple hours. If it has no features, probably like 20 mins. 6 mins is crazy!!!!

You are right, it's impossible. I realized MySQL is easier than flat files. Before, flat files were easier for me. Acutally, working with files, is easy.

QUOTE (Hamtaro)

For most of my PHP scripts, it takes me, on average, about 1 hour for a lengthy script. For most moderate sized files, about 20 minutes. I'm not really good enough to make a good script in 6 minutes...I could make a simple one in that time. I'm currently working on a forum, and it's takes me about 2-3 hours each night to work on. However, most of that time is spent thinking about what functions to use. I don't care how long it takes to code a script, I just enjoy scripting in PHP.

Yes, you are like me. On my own shoutbox, it took me many weeks. kShoutBox. Me too. I enjoy using PHP!

   Thu Mar 31, 2005    Reply         

i finished my filemanager manager application within a week and a half. from the beginning to the installation script. the hard part is really the installation script for me.

   Thu Mar 31, 2005    Reply         


QUOTE (mobious)

i finished my filemanager manager application within a week and a half. from the beginning to the installation script. the hard part is really the installation script for me.


I didn't understand that. Please rephrase it. Do you mean, you created your own file manager for personal use and still, you created an installation script (for your personal use)?

   Fri Apr 1, 2005    Reply         

I ain't really a PHP Programmer but I am trying to create my own site. I haven't worked on it in awhile cause of my short attention span. Does anyone know where a good place would be to type up PHP scripts and be able to look at em? It would be nice to know. And does anyone know where I can learn PHP in a day or 2 here at home for free? I would really like to know those things.

   Fri Apr 1, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (karlo)

I didn't understand that. Please rephrase it. Do you mean, you created your own file manager for personal use and still, you created an installation script (for your personal use)?



I created the program for everyone. it uses the GNU GPL license. if you wanna try it out, go to http://phpbit.3nigma.com/.


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I ain't really a PHP Programmer but I am trying to create my own site. I haven't worked on it in awhile cause of my short attention span. Does anyone know where a good place would be to type up PHP scripts and be able to look at em? It would be nice to know. And does anyone know where I can learn PHP in a day or 2 here at home for free? I would really like to know those things.



You cannot really learn the whole of PHP in a short span of time. maybe the basics but not the whole language. try grabbing the PHP Manual at http://www.php.net/. Then use editors such as dreamweaver or crimson. then upload them to your host all the time or just setup your own webserver with PHP support so that you can test your scripts locally.

   Fri Apr 1, 2005    Reply         

I just meant the basics. And I don't have dreamweaver or crimson.

   Fri Apr 1, 2005    Reply         

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I just meant the basics. And I don't have dreamweaver or crimson.



then good for you. you can just use any text editor even notepad. but it soes not have syntax highlighting making you confused all the time.

btw, crimson editor is free.

   Fri Apr 1, 2005    Reply         

can you gimme the url to the exact place for the php manual thing?

   Fri Apr 1, 2005    Reply         

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can you gimme the url to the exact place for the php manual thing?



can't find it there? it's just in the upper part of the page in the nav part. anyways here is the link.

http://www.php.net/docs.php

just select your prefered language and format.

   Fri Apr 1, 2005    Reply         

It usually takes me 1 or 2 hours for big scripts, 30 minutes for avarege scripts. Sometimes, of course, it takes me less or more time.

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I ain't really a PHP Programmer but I am trying to create my own site. I haven't worked on it in awhile cause of my short attention span. Does anyone know where a good place would be to type up PHP scripts and be able to look at em? It would be nice to know. And does anyone know where I can learn PHP in a day or 2 here at home for free? I would really like to know those things.



You want to learn PHP in 1 or 2 days? Sorry man, but thinking like this, you will not get anywhere.

   Sat Apr 2, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (FaLgoR)

You want to learn PHP in 1 or 2 days? Sorry man, but thinking like this, you will not get anywhere.



I agree. learning php really takes alot of time and patience.

   Sat Apr 2, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (Mike)

Hmm..  I'm currently coding my own source code of message boards.  You may find them here: http://subzer0.net/php  .  I've been working on it for about..  3-5 days now and the average time it takes me to code a file is about 6 minutes.  The adminstrative file 'new_board.php' which allows you to create a new board or category that will appear on the index (or be hidden) took me EXACTLY 6 minutes to code and it was a pretty lengthy file.  I think I've been reading my PHP 5 and MySQL book a little too much.  >_>;


Help me with php... oh yeah, help me promote the kShoutBox http://ksoftware.sourceforge.net and click on the contact menu, check it out, a new method that i have discovered. anyways, go to the home link, and download my shoutbox script. tell me what you think.

   Sun Apr 3, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (karlo)

Help me with php... oh yeah, help me promote the kShoutBox http://ksoftware.sourceforge.net and click on the contact menu, check it out, a new method that i have discovered. anyways, go to the home link, and download my shoutbox script. tell me what you think.



i am also a user of sourceforge.net. right now i am just waiting on my project request. my software is a file manager.

   Sun Apr 3, 2005    Reply         

Hey karlo... I just took a look at the code for your shoutbox. It looks pretty nice! I seriously like it.

   Sun Apr 3, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (Mike)

Hey karlo...  I just took a look at the code for your shoutbox.  It looks pretty nice!  I seriously like it.


Can I have the source code for your forum? I would like to study it and probably, improve my MySQL knowledge. Because i think forum scripts are really confusing. Test my kShoutBox at http://ksoftware.sourceforge.net

and make sure that you go to the contact section. I am using a flat-file based database, but i can retrieve the results like it was from MySQL. If the messages are more than 5-10, it will automatically split it. The password to the Admin area of my shoutbox is on the PM.

   Sun Apr 3, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (karlo)

Can I have the source code for your forum? I would like to study it and probably, improve my MySQL knowledge. Because i think forum scripts are really confusing. Test my kShoutBox at http://ksoftware.sourceforge.net

and make sure that you go to the contact section. I am using a flat-file based database, but i can retrieve the results like it was from MySQL. If the messages are more than 5-10, it will automatically split it. The password to the Admin area of my shoutbox is on the PM.



using flat-files as backend have already been done too many times. its not really like you discovered it. maybe you discovered another way.

   Mon Apr 4, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (mobious)

using flat-files as backend have already been done too many times. its not really like you discovered it. maybe you discovered another way.


Yes.... and it took a lot of hours... but in MySQL, it's just minutes. and i think my vocabulary in math is improving...because some MySQL functions and PHP functions requies multiplication, division, etc....

   Tue Apr 5, 2005    Reply         

thats a good thing! btw what's your age? does the math thing of php really do alot of good things about your math?

   Wed Apr 6, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (mobious)

thats a good thing! btw what's your age? does the math thing of php really do alot of good things about your math?


16 (17 on November 21). I really don't like math. I think after a few months from now, I will learn calculus and math4

   Wed Apr 6, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (karlo)

16 (17 on November 21). I really don't like math. I think after a few months from now, I will learn calculus and math4



what a coincidence. i'm 16 too. turning 17 on oct 11. anyways, i've been developing web applications for 3 years now. how about you?

   Wed Apr 6, 2005    Reply         

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