So, we killed Al-Zarqawi in an air-strike late last night. He was the leader of what we called "Al-Qaeda" in Iraq. This was the dude that beheaded Nick Berg a couple years ago... he was a man of terror.

Bush said "this violent man will never murder again". I really hope that he was talking about himself. Aren't we done killing arab people? Bush also said "the fighting and killing will continue" (paraphrased), meaning that we're not done in Iraq.

Did we find the WMD yet?
Did we get rid of Saddam?
Did we spread democracy?
Did we get Saddam's sons?
...what other fake reasons did we have?

I think that we're done! Yay! We can start bring our troops back home!

Bush, I am writing this paragraph directly to you and / or your administration: Please don't up with another "Al Qaeda - leader" or another reason to keep killing. Isn't this it? Isn't the mission accomplished yet?! You will be impeached - the only way you could avoid this now would be to declare martial law in our country. Ha! "Shock and Awe" is TERRORISM; do you think that nobody was terrified in Iraq that day?.

BTW, get the USA Today issue for today (June 8th, 2006) - look on page 2 for the Impeach Bush ad.

Sigh.

I'm not American but I hear what you're saying. I also sympathize with all the troops who are in Iraq fighting a war that, well let's just say... yeah.

In my opinion, Bush is a nimrod. I feel the same way about those who re-elected him but I guess I'll spare the pro-republicans from any further bashing. This whole fear-mongering, terrorism business is too overplayed. Yes, it did have a lot of shock value (and a lot of tragedies to reinforce it) but really...

Like you said Brian.

"I think that we're done"

You my friend have obviously not talked to one iraqi civilian. I've been there and i am headed on my second tour of duty. I've been thanked by countless of iraqi civilians for what we are doing there. They want freedom. The ones who dont are the ones who were being treated very well by Sadam. I think you hear only what you want to hear and make judgments that aren't based on fact. Until you talk to more then your neighbor to find out how they feel please dont say. Talk to someone who had his family murdered by Sadam. Talk to more then one Iraqi civilian still living in the country today. And thy will tell you they are not ready for us to leave. We are no where near ready to bring our troops home. If we were to pull out now the Iranian special forces that are there blowing up car bombs and killing women, children and other civilians by the hundreds will help overthrow the new regime and we will be back to square one.

Where was your comments when they pulled off the ARAB children from the bus and seperated them from suni and shite and killed one tribe but let the other live. It seems that your ok with that? Countless innocent people are murdered by Zarqawi 95% Arabs and you dont seem to care.

To answer your questions:

1. WMD - faulty intel, probably moved before the war
2. Did we get rid of Sadam - He is in an iraqi prison correct??? So yes.
3. Did we spread democracy - They are free now...doing things they couldn't do with Sadam.
4. Yes we killed the cowards at the start

You left this one out.

5. Is the country in a safe enough state for us to just up and leave? No. Iran is butting in with their special forces. How do i know? I killed 2 of them. One as he was using a 5 year old girl as a shield. Real brave guy. But thats ok by you.

i'm willing to bet that Bush and the US has killed less Arabs then Arabs have killed eachother. no i'm not a republican either. I'm an independent.

If we left things in your hands nothing would have been done about 9-11. If you ask me we need to move to Africa next and help the people there that are being murdered by the thousands daily for being in a different tribe.

Bush will never be impeached. Because sane people know that what was done needed to be done. I dont care if it was under the 9-11 umbrella it still needed to be done. The news (who hate bush) dont care about the fact that arabs are killing arabs. They dont go on and on about how children were pulled off a school bus and murdered. They dont go on and on about zarqawi killing arabs....because it doesnt work for their agenda. Get some knowledge about a subject before speaking on it.

Why are we still there? What is the reason now? There just isn't a good reason anymore! Bring our armed forces back home. Impeach the bumbling idiot cheerleader Bush!

Anybody from this administration talks anymore and all I hear is "We know where the WMD are ... blah blah blah ... 9/11 ... blah blah ... You're Safer ... blah ... Gay Marriage ... Saddam Al Qaeda ... Illegal Immigrants ... amen! (get this "God" crap out of our government! - If there is a God, why in the world did he put OUR oil under the Arab's soil???)


You don't know that I was roommates with an ex-Iraqi citizen in college. Hmmph. Anyway, the bad FAR outweighs any good that you can possibly get out of this. This is President Nimrod's (a.k.a. Bush's) war. My point is that he didn't have a reason for going to war (we know this now, are you still beating the "9/11" drum??? Iraq didn't have ANYTHING to do with the 9/11 attacks - as was determined by many investigations primarly the "9/11 Commission". You, my friend - are in the wrong. This is NOT how you spread peace and democracy - that's a fact jack.


Yep, there's the "9/11" drum again. Don't you call me insane, I am the rational one who looks at FACTS, not trying to justify decisions based on BAD INTELLIGENCE. I have been studying international history as a hobby for decades... yet you say "get some knowledge about a subject before speaking on it"; I think that you don't want to hear opposition because your case just looks worse as people like me start to speak out. You are like the administration in that sense, you only want ONE SIDE OF THE STORY. Look at facts dude, there is no connection between Al-Qaeda and Iraq before we created it. Is the country in a safe enough state for us to just up and leave?! The place is only a mess today because we stirred things up, like a stupid hick with a stick poking a hive full of jive!

I believe that if we left, things will be better far before they could if we stayed... If we stay, more Al-Zarqawi will be created (or, so they would have us believe)...

I am going out on a limb here -- Bush will be impeached more severely than anybody in history (Coulter's - head will spin, it will be that bad for the administration). I have been brave enough to go out on a limb before 2004 and buy a hybrid car because I knew that gas prices would be tripling in the next 5 years.... I was right back then, and I feel that I am right now.

Yeah.. we have enough troubles back home, we need to stop sending people overseas to combat things over there.
I can think of a billion things more important for our country to focus on than lingering in Iraq.. we need to leave these poor people alone ^^;

Here's some interesting statistics I heard on CNN this morning when they were interviewing Nick Berg's father: 3,000 people died a year when Hussein was in power while 60,000 people a year die while Bush occupies the country. Hussien preserved order in the country while it is utter chaos in Iraq now with Bush occupying it. Terrorists were never a problem with Hussien in power, but with Bush terrorist organiztions, militias, and saddam's former soliders ravage the country now not to mention the few mad U.S. troops massacre Iraqi civilians. Who's the real enemy?

I think that Congress definitaly needs to set a total withdrawal date for U.S. Operations in Iraq. A complete pullout right now would be stupid, but lets start withdrawing.

My personal opinion however is that Iraq will soon become a U.S. territory.

a few things to thinkg about
"did saddam have wmd that we just can't find now?"
"if we didn't step in and do something would saddam have done some crazier stuff and killed more people?"
"if it wasn't half way across the world would you care more?"

I'm not an american, but my country has troops in Iraq, so it spends money and my people are at risk. We only had one death in Iraq and 2 in Afganistan. It's not much, but they died in a war that is not ours... and more it is Bush's war for oil and power. I'm sure that even if they kill Bil Laden they will not retreat from Iraq. Because they can always "fake" a terrorist attack, a bomb, some victims and the war has a purpouse again. Someone else to hate again. Someone else to hunt for againIt is my opinion that (if it wasn't the Bush administration that did it) at least the Bush administration is a complice in 9-11 attacks. Just another Pearl Harbor... But this time it isn't for a noble cause.
And besides if the americans retreat before the whole oil reserve is depleted they will look weak and they will look like they were defeated. It would be like Vietnam all over again... And if they will look weak there are lots of enemies that would chalange their position as world leaders.

Actually i was watching Conan O Brian when that SPECIAL UPDATE came on. I honestly turned off the TV after watching a few minutes of it and went to bed. I am just so angry with our president and leaders right now. I honestly want to start getting into politics to make America better ever since George Bush was president. My best friend said to me exactly," Whats so bad with George Bush. The media says how bad he is and never says why." I litteraly just was thinking what do i say. He is SO LOST. Has he NEVER seen the news before. Does he even know we are at war fighting "terror" that was never there and got invisible bombs that they lied about. No wait maybe it was "screw the UN" attitude when America wanted to go to war with Iraq and the UN said no. No i know! It was the 29% approval rating. I honestly CAN NOT WAIT till he is out of there. He has killed ENOUGH of OUR people. So I say F U Bush. We want our America back.

Did you know we have never invaded a country before when they have NEVER done anything to us first. Thank god for George Bush to do it for a completly UNJUST reason.

Ahhhhh now i feel better.

The fact still remains that there are terrorist factions still in iraq qhich are intent on doing harm to the US and/ or UK and other countries.
I would rather they kept lookin for the WMD's than them coming home with nothing and terrorists launching an attack on my country :/ perhaps you would then blame bush for not taking enough action if he ordered his troops home and that happened
i'm not defending everything he has done, but come on, he's has recieved this intelligence and threats and he has to act.
i realise families are missing certain family members and may have lost them in Iraq but to be fair they joined up to protect there country which is what they are doing.

Just hate how people believe that the troops must stay in Irak to protect civilians, to guard peace, etc. Yes, In Irak there´s killing, terror, stealing, raping and all those things... that happen worlwide. Oh, but in Africa they don´t have oil, what a pity for them, that they will never get "help" from good americans like Bush and his crew.

There will be no "peace" in Irak probably never and definitely not if the soldiers stay because population is too divided. I would say that it´s their problem but the irresponsible incursions of US and allies have led to this situation and now there´s no Sadam but things are even more compicated.

Your right yay! Guess what he is doing now? Guess? Well he is suing America for war crimes for invading a country for NO reason.



I'm sorry, but this really pisses me off when people talk like this. They don't even think about anything else but what is right in front of them. First off how did America get freedom? We fought for it. Why cant they? The obviously want freedom, but not enough to fight for it. Next is Remember China in tiananmen square? Probably not because if you did then you were refer to it. China fought and fought for the little freedom they have. We didn't help them. People were killed fighting for there freedom. Iraqis have not done anything. Why should we help them then? I don't think it is our or anyones place to go in and give other people freedom although thats not why we are even over there. If it was like in Africa where kids are being killed and women being raped GO THE HELL OVER THERE AND HELP THEM. But no we are fighting a country that has small prblems compared to Africa. You have no right saying anything you just said. I would rather go to prison then fight in a unjust war fuled by money and greed.

The only reason the Allied forces are 'helping' Iraqi's is because Iraq has lots of oil. Oil gives power so that is why we only seem to care about Iraq. What about Palestina, where people fight for their rightfull land? Israel is America's ally so Israel is allowed to massacre Palestinian kids, but when a Palestinian suicidebombs himself, they are evil.

The way the Allied countries act is hypocrite and selfish. Iraq isn't liberated at all. Because they have a kind of democracy doesn't mean they are free. Look at most democratic countries, when people vote for someone who is pacifistic or really for the people, they get killed or the votes have to be recounted untill the other party, mostly capitalists and warmongers have the most votes.

Under Saddam's reighn, the Iraqi's were better off. Of course Saddam has done terrible things, but I would bet Bush and his allies have done (and still do) more then Saddam has done in all his years. If they really were to help the world to get rid of terrorism, they should help in China, Angola and all those countries who are torn apart by civil wars. And they should invest more into their own nations, not in weaponry, but in education, healthcare, environmental conservation and infrastructure.

It's really numb to think we can 'help' a country by killing it's citizens and destroying it's cities. Why not invest into their infrastructure, healthcare and such. You might say that all will be robbed, but if all this $$$ invested in weaponry would be invested into food and medicine there would be enough for everyone.
Just my thoughts

haha you make me laugh. WHy would we do that. It makes too much sence for George Bush. George is looking for the most complicated way possible to make money and make it look like he is a hero which back fired on him. Wouldnt you say?

Does this "war" remind anyone of 1984? Now that were getting into faking things so the war will continue...

Seriously it does. Here read these lyrics. It's all true.



What do you guys think about that song. Think it would fit now?

Do you not realise that it is our job to fight wars. Quit crying bring our troops home! We VOLUNTEERED to do what we do. If we had a problem with being in Iraq then its easy to get out of the military. Yet i do not see any masse desertions, or people running to the lines to get out of the military. I dont need you to speak for me! The U.S. military is drawing down. People are getting the oppurtunity to just leave the military with no strings attached. But like i said....there aren't any lines at the door! Fact is that we know what we have to do. We volunteered! Alot of us join because we come from poor families and want to go to college. Or just for the travel. We get medical and dental. So we get these priviliges and take advantage of them and we know there is a price that we may have to pay for it all.

One iraqi roomate does not speak for a country. Yes Sadam kept them in line. He kept them in line by beheadings, torture, rape, chemical gas attacks, and other horrifying means. I think it is funny how you are ok with all that yet when the troops go in to free the ones that are suffering you are outraged!!!

On one hand your saying its wrong!!! People are dying!!! But you turn a blind eye to everything the man and his son did!!!

Its easy to see right through your hatred of George Bush! You would let thousands of innocent people be brutally murdered just because of your hate for one person. I pitty you. And the iraqi people that we freed from the dictator are probably glad that you do not speak for them.


Please stop yelling "Bring our troops home" Its my job. I love my job and i will do it until the day i day. I'm pround that i can touch the lives of millions of people to come. Its sad to see if people like you were in charge that Europe and Asia would no longer be free beautiful countries like they are.

I dont want you to speak for me!!! I'll come home when the job is really done and people are truly safe. I wont be a coward like you and run and be unwilling to put my life on the line to save another human being. Keep turning your head and ignoring the murder, rape, and torture while i man up and do somehting about it!

I'm not speaking for you. I'm speaking to the president who went to war there. Iraq had no choice to be invaded by America and YOU. You say they might like that we did that, but they never did anything to be free. We fought to be free and now we are and one of the richest contries. And to respond to another point you brought up. I know you get dental and all that, but America should offer health care to everyone. Countries that arnt even close to as rich as we are give health coverage. You should be able to work at Taco Bell and have full coverage on dental and some medical. Do you not agree? We are in the war, so all our money is there right now. Bull Clinton brought our debt back to nothing and George Bush just F'ed it all up.




I'm outraged that we go HEY! Africa has gone to hell with AIDS and this HUGE group of people go around and kidnap kids and rape the women kill the fathers and in China years ago we had the tiananmen square incident and America didn't do anything then, but then all of a sudden America gets a crazy hair and chooses Iraq? And we wernt suppoed to go over there for there freedom if you REMEMBER! It was for those weapons they NEVER found. I dont think we should have ever been over there. Why dont we go to Africa where they really can not do anything about it.



Well of course not. They didnt go out and protest and thousands die. What the Chinese people did was amazing. They wanted freedom and although they did not get the freedom we have they got more then before. Did you ever hear about that in Iraq NO. I'm not saying they are all cowards who dont want freedom i think that they didnt want it enough for us to go in there and give it to them. We never did that for any other country why should we give it to them?

Somebody needs to get you some english lessons... unless you are an illegal immigrant. Spelling errors and grammar mistakes abound. It is fairly obvious that you spent little time working on the tools of communication.

It is not our job to fight wars. I don't pay my tax dollars so that 20˘ of every dollar is used to find better ways to survive mortal combat. I wish that my taxes were used for more benevolent reasons - than buying billion dollar weapons systems.... That's crazy. Where does it say that it is our job to fight? Isn't it our job to be the good guy?

The only way that the military approach would bring peace is by killing everything that it can't communicate with. As long as you leave survivors, they will grow back and hate us more. Our country's behavior really reminds me parental abuse. There is a cause and effect that you are completely missing - if we continue to act this way, we will pay for it in the future.

Here's a fact that Absolute hates: America is the only country guilty of killing innocent people with nuclear bombs (we did it twice in one year!) It is so completely unjust that we are somehow allowed to declare which other countries get nukes?? Is that fair? Who gives us that right? I don't really care - it isn't something that the USA should decide - with blood already on our hands.

The torture continued under new management when we got there. It really doesn't look good for you - when you try to use the "we're better than them" arguement... how possible killing of 11 innocent civilians in the Iraqi city of Ishaki by US, or Abu Graib or Haditha Massacre: America’s Latest Disgrace. But, you would say something like they are trained to lie about being tortured or those were bad apples.

What is the current Terror Alert Level???

I am tired of hearing your closed-minded babblehackey. You are blind to everything BAD that Bush has done for some reason.... in fact, you prop up both Bushes (I thought that you were talking about God / Jesus due to the triple "!!!" - usually reserved for empty promise messages like "You need our product!!!").

I really don't know where you get your facts, but they seem more like supposition. Morale is down, enlistment is steady (but down when compared to previous target numbers), psychological releases are more common, suicides are up, AWOL and defections are up. I don't know, do you want some links to these facts? Oh, and the biggest reason that enlistment in either Iraqi police or our Army is able to sustain itself -- POVERTY. It is a real shame that Iraqis have VERY little employment opportunity in a city that is so decimated -- but the Baghdad Police are hiring!


The fact is that Bush and Bush can be looked at as responsible for giving the orders that killed more than 500,000 some estimate over 1,000,000 mostly-innocent Iraqi's over the past 15 years. If you don't believe me, you can read a very well written article here: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/1339...anctions07.html
Here's another great multi-part article written by Manuel Valenzuela of Dissident Voice (I recommend reading this): http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles9/Valenzuela_Iraq1.htm and
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles9/Valenzuela_Iraq2.htm

I know. How do we get to decide when we have them and are the only country that has ever used them? If iran wants them let them have them. If they launch one then hell yah attack them, but dont just go hey we have them so you cant. It sounds like a 2 nd class with lunch box or something, "I got your lunch box you cant have any" you know what i mean?

As a U.S Service member it is my job to bring peace. If i have to kill someone to bring peace so that the people of that country can have peace then so be it. But that is the ultimate job of any countries military. If not then why does any country need a military?? If a military wasn't designed for war then we wouldn't need it for protection.

I actually voted for Gore thank you. If you read every post you would have seen that I am an independent. Not a Republican or a Democrat.

I dont need links to websites with political agendas thank you. I am intelligent enough to know when im reading BS. Especially when its all written by dissidents. Fact is im in the Air Force and we are having to kick people out because we have TOO MANY!!!!

Suicides aren't up. Its the third leading cause of death in the military. Its been the third for 12 years.

Enlistments are steady. The Air Force has met its quota every year.

Keep spinning your facts. Its all a load of BS. I wear the uniform everyday and morale is HIGH!

Say whatever you need to say to make yourself feel better. In the end your wrong. In the end we will win the war and you will still be sitting on the sidelines doing nothing. We could have had more troops and done this faster but thats not my call. But the fact still remains we will win.

Another FACT to bring up.....the Democrats and Republicans have ran this country for YEARS. Whatever you think is wrong with the country you can blame on both parties. They have all had a chance to fix it!!!

Quit being so narrow minded. Its not one mans fault. Its every meber of congress and the senate and the president for the last hundred years or more. Run for office.....lets see how you do with your campaign.

NO! we aren't done!

http://www.trap17.com/forums/7-eleven-conv...ore-t37977.html

i love when people talk about how bush will be impeached just to see their poor little distraught faces when he isn't.

and you know somehing else? i was a survivor of the northridge earthquake. stores and gas stations closed down. there was only a select few open within city limits. one 7-11 was open. they decided because there was a demand, to charge 10 dollars for a gallon of water and over price ALL their items in the store.

they have always hijacked us and they will always continue to hijack us. if they don't like us there, then they shoulda never supported living in a country that supports and hides terrorists. we aren't targeting innocent civilians, but torrorists and dictators, trying to change the world in small ways in the hopes that one day people will live with free choice.

i love the way you people think. people get shot in the streets every day. when your mother gets gunned down in a driveby, i would love to hear you comment that "oh, we shouldn't go after the trouble makers. there's enough violence" oh. you would want BLOOD and don't tell me otherwise. familes were killed in america because dirty, third world country citizens decided to take parents away from children who now live in foster homes, never to see their mommy or daddy again. these people live in new york or somewhere close and have the constant reminder of the last place their parents were breathing. they are victims, and when there are victims, there should be justice and with there should be justice until this sort of thing NEVER happens again. EVER!

now you go down and support your local 7-11 because they are well deserving of your money after they are known to screw over people of america even under a national disaster where people are supposed to be helping people during those times and everyone coming together. impeach bush? no my friend, impeach YOU because you don't deserve to live in a country were americans die to ensure your freedom and safety and you are ungratefull.

You guys are treating liberalism as a religion. By this topic title, I can clearly tell you're not exactly up to date on things since the US helped other countries rebuild after taking out their leader. Think back to WWII.
If we pull out, the world and liberal bandwagoners will be mad with the US. If we stay in and help them rebuild and their own police force at least able to stand up on their own, the world and liberal bandwagoners will be mad with the US. It's lose-lose, so we might as well just help people out.

No WMDs? I guess that was imaginary fun gas that Saddam used against the kurds, right? Totally not mustard gas.

Free health care? Our country's already in a deficit from spending so much. Make up your mind. Spend alot or complain about a deficit. It's up to you, if you like your children having high taxes.

Continue with your Global Warming fairy tale. Oh no! Hurricanes! Those are solid evidence! So is ice melting! That's never happened before! Al Gore must be totally correctly and not just want attention from the media.

If you don't recall, Bush stood on the deck of the USS Lincoln or Kennedy - with a big HUGE banner that read "Mission Accomplished!" It would be different if it was explained to the American people why we needed to go into Iraq... but I can't support anything to do with this war since we were lied to about the need for war.

This is so different from WWII - how dare you try to justify this war by somehow affilating it with WWII - this war is based on a stinking pile of bad information, forged documents about WMD in Iraq, lies and cover-ups. End the war on Error! (notice, I didn't mean to type "Terror", but "Error!")

I am sorry to take the thunder from your statement, but the U.S. Armed Forces only considers a nuclear weapon a weapon of mass destruction - not poison gasses. Iraq has neither nuclear weapons nor chemical or biological weapons. Furthermore, the chemical weapons that Saddam used against Iran in the 1980's was supplied indirectly by the USA. Aren't we great!? Sure, he gassed Kurds some time after that - he is being tried for that now. We have never been tried for the past war crimes because we came out on the winning side of things (think about that - only the loser pays, and that is the fundamental reason that War is wrong. Just because I could beat your arse, doesn't mean that I was right. Think about it.)

Here's another fantastic thing about the story of Saddam gassing the Kurds... the Kurds were fighting along side with Iranians against the Iraqi leadership. The other thing that you never hear is that BOTH SIDES WERE USING GAS - the incident makes Saddam fameous for gassing Kurds because that is the half-story that we're always told. Consider how we may sympathize with his position if Bush said "Fifteen years ago, as Kurds were fighting along side of Iranians, Saddam's regime ordered a chemical attack... At the time, the Iranians were also using mustard agents."

Why do you think the deficit is a problem (the answer is WAR). Bush never lowered my costs - or increased my income. The same can't be said of what he did for the richest 2% of Americans - rich are getting richer because of all of the breaks they are getting at our expense. Sure, it is pathetic that we are a supposed advanced nation and we basically make it nearly impossible for over 40 million Americans to have basic health insurance. That's just pathetic and unbelievable.

Here's another little tidbit for you to chew on - in one period of eight and a half weeks in Afghanistan, we are linked to 3,767 civilian deaths. I'll say it so you don't have to - just because I decry these civilian deaths, I am aiding propaganda efforts of the terrorists, right? I can hear Rumsfeld say something like "Collateral damage is inevitable in war. It is highly likely that some of the deaths were due to their own Anti-Aircraft fire..."

Remember that they initially lied about the banner - saying that the banner was put up by the Navy and that "it was an idea that was suggested by those on the ship as a way to honor the sailors and crew on board the USS Lincoln for accomplishing their mission." Later Bush added "The Navy asked us to take care of the production of the banner". Which was a lie - later Daschle said "...[white house] said that the Navy called for it, and that was a fabrication because they then later acknowledged that it was the White House who created the banner."

Accept reality; living in the true world is so much better than a fantasy land that is full of lies. When you tell lies, you will eventually be hurt by them.

There was a higher rate of deaths (on all sides) after declaring "Mission Accomplished" than before.

yup...so you plan on taking your own advice??

Why aren't you done, you sound like all Arabs are the same?
And Bush will get what he deserves, I'm sure.
His war against terrorism is nothing more then a war against Arabs to gain control over Middle-East oilfields.



Heh, hijacked you? Your government put those explosives underneath the WTC and blames the Arabs so they can warfare and test their new weapons, bought from your taxmoney.
If they didn't target innocent civilians, why did more civilians die then Iraqi soldiers?
Free choice... Two words with lots of meanings... What free choice? Free choice on Bush' way? He lied his way into office as all politicians do and messing with votecounts, is that a free choice for people?
People unable to work after many years due to physical conditions are punished with being poor, is that a free choice?
People with a minimum income can't even go to a hospital without being afraid to pay for their health the rest of their lives, is that a free choice?



If people get shot every day, then the government should do something about that instead of fighting in other countries.
If you don't what those disasters from happening again, you should go after your own government, they are the ones who trained and armed the Taliban, they are the ones who places explosives underneath the buildings, they are the ones who held at least 7 hijacktrainings at the same time of the 'real' hijacking.
I feel bad for the victims, because they got sacrificed by their own leaders.

http://www.martiallaw911.info/insidejob1.htm
http://www.martiallaw911.info/insidejob2.htm
http://www.infowars.com/transcripts/degranpres.htm
http://www.infowars.com/transcripts/vonbeulow.htm

Yes it is your "job" that dosnt make it right. And are you really saying to me and America that Iraq is a threat? Ghandi didn't have to kill to bring peace nor did Martin Luther King. I would never kill anyone unless they there hurt me or my family. I wouldnt ever hurt someone because they might someday possibly hurt us like George Bush was telling us.

The way i see it is like this:

Americas neighbor is Bob and America tells his kids i have to go kill bob becuase he has a gun and he is going to kill us. So the kids trust america and he goes over there kills bob and comes home like nothing happens. When the kids ask he says no there was no gun but i saved you from the possiblity of him hurting you. Does that make sence to you. Well thats what we did.

Those were civil rights movements by the underdog. Is America the underdog in this conflict? I think not. Right now Iraq isn't a threat. It's the insurgents that we're trying to help remove. Saddam tortured his people simply for being Shiah. So, you wouldn't stick up for those killed for simply being part of a different sect of a religion? You wouldn't stick up for those black men and women hurt by apartheid in South Africa? Last time I checked US soliders weren't pulling Haditha's left and right. It's the terrorists, insugents, and former military of saddam brought by our presence in Iraq that's killing the innocent.

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2 1/2 years ago, i had a HUGE problem with dish network. I felt there was little i could really do except protect myself. well, aside from trying to protect myself from further pain with this company, i thought i would put my little knowledge to good use. i decided to post about my problem on trap17 ...more