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Idea For A Overunity/perpetual Motion Device - Though I know it probably won't work | ||
Discussion by Tetraca with 12 Replies.
Last Update: September 28, 2009, 2:40 pm | |||
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It's pretty simple - attatch a generator directly to an electric motor, then run a cord to the electric motor, and hand crank the generator to start it.
Anyone else have an idea for a perpetual motion device?
In my opinion if you're trying to develop a perpetual motion device your best bet probably involves vacuums, superconductors and magnetic fields. but as I said before... many many poeple have tried and failed... I doubt somebody on here will succeed, of course I could be wrong
QUOTE (Tetraca)
They've already succeeded - in space that is. Every satillite in space is in perpetual motion. It's impossible to do it here on earth, I belive. Somebody said it in the Mythbusters forums over at the discovery channel, and those who post there are usually very smart people, but sometimes not.
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Before I even read your reply I was going to say gravity and orbit, though I hesitated and still am unsure of this because gravity is the same as falling towards something slowly while circling it, and satellites will eventually collide with something unless some other force moves them away from the planet/gravitational pull they are orbiting.
QUOTE (Tetraca)
Well, though a way for such things has never been discovered, I'm giving my idea for a perpetual motion device, though it was originally thought up as a device for overunity.
It's pretty simple - attatch a generator directly to an electric motor, then run a cord to the electric motor, and hand crank the generator to start it.
Anyone else have an idea for a perpetual motion device?
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Yes this idea is pretty simple, the biggest thing that will stop it is the efficiency of the motor and generator. While motors and generators are fairly efficient, they are not 100% efficient, due to friction mainly. To explain this in basic terms, let's assume both the motor and generator have an efficiency of 90%, I think it is actually less than this but it will do for this example.
Let's assume the motor consumes 1000 watts and the generator output is 1000 watts. Sounds like a nice balance doesn't it?
The fact is, due to being 90% efficient, the generator will require a motor of around 1100 watts to to drive it sufficiently for it to output 1000 watts. So now we need a bigger motor to drive the generator, but wait a minute, as the motor is also 90% efficient, we need around 1200 watt motor to drive the generator. That means we need a bigger generator to drive the bigger motor, which means we need a bigger motor to drive the bigger generator... ARGH! See the problem with this idea?
If both the generator and motor were 100% efficient, this might work, but alas, that is not the case.
Idea For A Overunity/perpetual Motion Device
Replying to Tetracahas any one ever thought to put the moter round the generator so they are as one iam sure this will solve the problem
-reply by ronald brown
Satellites are not perpetual motion devices, they just look like it.
When a body orbits the earth it is essentially falling due to the force of gravity. Think if it like this. When you throw a ball it falls to the ground in an arc. Now, what if you could throw the ball so hard that the arc matched the curve of the earth? It would be falling but it would never hit the ground. Of course the horizontal component of velocity would be lost due to friction in the air but if you did the same thing in space there would be (almost) nothing to counteract it and you would have a satellite.
In reality there is "dust" in space in the form of micrometeorites so even though they are tiny when a satellite strikes them a tiny amount of that horizontal vector of energy is lost. Eventually all satellites will fall out of orbit, unless they have engines to help maintain thier orbit.
Now here is something that will really blow your noodle. A wire passing through a magnetic field will generate a weak current. The earth is surrounded by a magnetic field. So if you put a wire coil inside a satellite and aligned it correctly with the earth’s magnetic field it would generate electricity as it orbits. Wow! A perpetual motion device! Sorry not quite. It takes mechanical energy to force the wire through a magnetic field and convert it to electricity. The mechanical energy to push the wire through the magnetic field would come from the horizontal component of force in the satellites orbit, slowing it down and eventually causing it to crash back into the earth.
I can desing a perpetual motion device on paper and provide sound math but the problem is that all systems have points where energy is lost. Once you factor in these points of loss; friction, sound, heat, collisions, air resistance, etc. The desings all come to a halt.
well I have thought of this topic before and have something quite similar to yours.
1. A moving platform that is powered by friction panels, as the platform moves it runs over Numerous panels that absorb friction as power then the power is used to run the moving platform.
2.Two magnets moving in cricular motion. As they move circularly the poles of the magnets repel Each other accurately enableing the magnet to continue spinning.
3. A satelite above earth attached with solar panels. Since the satelite never goes on the night side of the earth it can forever generate power.
4. 2 solar panels on one object. One solar panel powers the object while another one stores Energy into some kind of batery in the object. So when night comes the stored energy is used and When day comes the solar energy is used.
5.Waves. I might be wrong but I think waves in the ocean are constantly in motion. If so a device Could be made to use this motion as energy or power
I'm not sure if any of these are possible. I'm only 14 years old afterall and they are just my logical thoughts. I don't know if the energy produced is sufficient for perpetual motion.
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