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if google can offer 1gb gmail service, it can also offer web hosting service, with great feature, for free.
unlike email services, now the market of webhosting is so divided and nobody really dominates, there are so many small hosting business. imagine google provide a free hosting service, say 1gt space, how long will it take before google takes over this business?
and it makes sense for google to provide such services, indeed google will be able to gain ultamate access to numerous web servers.





   Sat Jan 15, 2005    Reply         

Google could never take over free hosting... trap17's going to be here
for at least a long while. Besides, trap17's not really that grand a corporation
(sorry OpaQue) and won't delete its service within a 3 second decision... not
that Google will either, but it has nothing to lose in removing such a service,
trap17 specializes in the thing. And another note, people like me would still
be using trap17 (perhaps while using a google account with that nice 1 Gb
of hard drive space as a nice storage facility :rolleyes:)







   Sat Jan 15, 2005    Reply         

if google can provide free services with great features, with google's server and reputation, i would think many if not all the people using paid webhosting will turn to google hosting, thus google will destroy >90% of the paid web hosting service and take over the business.
about free hosting services, it is never a factor in the business, almost no serious website will use any free hosting services.


QUOTE (osknockout)

Google could never take over free hosting... trap17's going to be here
for at least a long while. Besides, trap17's not really that grand a corporation
(sorry OpaQue) and won't delete its service within a 3 second decision... not
that Google will either, but it has nothing to lose in removing such a service,
trap17 specializes in the thing. And another note, people like me would still
be using trap17 (perhaps while using a google account with that nice 1 Gb
of hard drive space as a nice storage facility :rolleyes:)
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   Sat Jan 15, 2005    Reply         


QUOTE

about free hosting services, it is never a factor in the business, almost no serious website will use any free hosting services.

Actually, I would use t17 for a serious website...in fact, that's the whole idea
behind my hosting account. Have you considered the point that what you said
is self-contradictory?

QUOTE

if google can provide free services with great features, with google's server and reputation, i would think many if not all the people using paid webhosting will turn to google hosting, thus google will destroy >90% of the paid web hosting service and take over the business.

So if google provided free hosting, no business would care, because free hosting
is not a serious factor in business.

   Sat Jan 15, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (osknockout)

Actually, I would use t17 for a serious website...in fact, that's the whole idea
behind my hosting account. Have you considered the point that what you said
is self-contradictory?

So if google provided free hosting, no business would care, because free hosting
is not a serious factor in business.
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I mean free hosting today is not a factor, because there are simply not many free services with good enough features (space, bandwidth, uptime, ads) and garanteed long-lasting time, well maybe except trap17, (i will know when I tried it)
but when google provides free hosting services, it will be a factor.

   Sat Jan 15, 2005    Reply         

If Google were to enter the free hosting business, the subsequent trend will directly correspond to that of the G-Mail phenomena. Google has the capacity to offer whatever they wish to their users, so by advertising a monumental amount of space, competing hosts will be forced to up their standards (look at Hotmail and Yahoo now!).

At the rate Google's going at, they could take over the world's supply of water, electricity, petroleum, fossil fuels, and Boston cream pies and still have time and money to spare. Google is an epidemic...and it's coming for you! :rolleyes:

   Sat Jan 15, 2005    Reply         


This will never happen, and if it does, it'll be no more better than Geocities with a gigabyte of storage. Why? Google makes it's revenue from advertising. Automagically, lots of "serious" websites would not want advertisements on their site that aren't put their by themselves. Think about geocities. Would you use it for a respectable website? Would you use it for a respectable website if it was the exact same thing with a gigabyte of storage? No. That's the awsome part of Trap17. No ads on the hosted sites, it relies on the community that uses it to support it; which makes it completely self-reliant, and thus, stable (financially). Believe it or not, Trap17 is better than lots of paid hosting accounts. Have you seen package #3? I've seen people sell those packages for $150 a month, and those companies are still in buisness. This is what a free webhost should be like, not some cheap anglefire site.

   Sat Jan 15, 2005    Reply         

Google Should change is blooger service and make it into web hosting. There blogger service has no advertising on it now however it did when it first came out.

This is what I was looking for in a host

Free
Large Storage
PHP
Email
Great Add-ons
friendly support
tools
And Site Stats

And Guess what I get that already.

Thanks
Eric Drinkard

Trap17 Forever

   Sat Jan 15, 2005    Reply         

I was reading a discussion on how Google can afford to offer 1GB of email per user, and it ends up making sense - for email. One of the essential things that makes it work is how each user's disk space
a) is pretty much only accessed by that one person
b) is filled up slowly or not at all
Both of these conditions fail when you try to apply them to web hosting.
Caveman - lol... I've thought the same thing. Good thing google's corporate policy is to not be evil! (item 6) Glad I trust them! Is that a mistake? Maybe...

   Sat Jan 15, 2005    Reply         

while when there were discussions about the cost of gmail, it was estimated it cost 1 dollor per gigabites for google. sure web hosting will use more space quicker than email, but think about the user amount, there will be much less user actually using web hosting services than email. So there is no doubt google can afford to do it, the question is will they? it is a good point that google survives on ads, but then again blogger don't have ads at all.
maybe google may not provide hosting in the traditional way but in some other ways, like a blog (blogger), personal online photo album (which I really like to see), or a private social network (orkut, or like wallop, which you can publish text and pictures without space limit).

   Sun Jan 16, 2005    Reply         

An Idea for Gmail webhosting is that what you havnt used for your email is the space for your website.. This would be quite good...but then the service in someways will suck.

Google is good I use it over Hotmail any day (I only use hotmail for msn) The email servce they previde is exptreamly good.

SO it makes sence that one day google will previde web hosting...but that day is not now also if google took over the free host area. Microsoft most lilky will try and conter it...maybe MSNhosting... but then other email copenys will try the same thing as google... so the world of free hosting would be runined...lol

   Tue Jan 18, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (trinest)

An Idea for Gmail webhosting is that what you havnt used for your email is the space for your website.. This would be quite good...but then the service in someways will suck.

Google is good I use it over Hotmail any day (I only use hotmail for msn) The email servce they previde is exptreamly good.

SO it makes sence that one day google will previde web hosting...but that day is not now also if google took over the free host area. Microsoft most lilky will try and conter it...maybe MSNhosting... but then other email copenys will try the same thing as google... so the world of free hosting would be runined...lol
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I don't see it being ruined.
after Gmail, hotmail and yahoo both increase their mail storage room from pathetic 2m and 4m to 250m, and numerous email providers follows. Yet free email service is not ruined, instead email users are the ultimate winners.

   Tue Jan 18, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (burgen)

I don't see it being ruined.
after Gmail, hotmail and yahoo both increase their mail storage room from pathetic 2m and 4m to 250m, and numerous email providers follows. Yet free email service is not ruined, instead email users are the ultimate winners.
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At the momment gmail is good...but imagaine a few years down the track...gmail would maybe have 2000MB and yahoo and hotmail 1000MB

   Tue Jan 18, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (trinest)

At the momment gmail is good...but imagaine a few years down the track...gmail would maybe have 2000MB and yahoo and hotmail 1000MB
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ah?

   Wed Jan 19, 2005    Reply         

I agree with EricDrunkard on what I look for in hosting (+bandwidth and I am willing to pay a little for good hosting.). I agree with Caveman in that Google seems to be taking over the internet. I try not to think about it much because really, it scares me. Google is turning into the internet 'God'. It knows all, it sees all. (Nevertheless, I did follow the 'fad' and get a Gmail account anyway.)

Anyway, if Google started doing webhosting.... They'd probably offer something like 1-5GB space... Probably have a long beta phase first (ala Gmail right now). I'm not good at calculating bandwidth usage, but it'd be around 100 GB/mo. (Probably as much as 500 GB... or more.) Insane amounts, basically, especially considering it would be free and all. Ads... To make more money off it, they could require (non-paying) Ad-Click towers. But that'd drive people away, so they'd probably just make it optional with an easier sign-up if you do. We'd probably have an ad-free option, paying Ad-Click option, and 'donation' Ad-Click option. Anyway, I can't say what I would do if they did come out with it. I don't like being a 'sheep', but if the features were good enough, who knows?

   Fri Jan 21, 2005    Reply         

It would be cool if Google could provide something a little better than Geocities. That would be the ultimate. Google will become very popular because of that. I think Google has a future in web hosting. The only issue is keeping Google alive. With 1 GB e-mail, a serch engine and many other features, will Google colapse out of over-service?

Just my 2 cents.

-Shackman

PS: Trap17 is still the best web host.

   Fri Jan 21, 2005    Reply         

Google might just be the down fall if they have free web hosting. Imagine all those people upload small video clips and songs onto their own server on google and just using up the bandwith so quick. If people are using gmail as storage why not googles own space tooo. I think google would want advertising and they'll make good money because other companies pay them to put their ad and it can appear on their users websites.

   Fri Jan 21, 2005    Reply         

There is no such thing as a free lunch, so Google will have to place ads in order to finance this, and that's one minus.

In order to keep up with millions of users, that will obviously register to get their free hosting, Google would have to get a great number of web servers.

When they offered the 1GB Gmail mailbox, they knew that only a few people would use up this space, but the others (like me, with a poor internet connection) have only 10MB (1%) of space used up! If they would offer free web hosting, it would be an embarrassment to offer e.g. 50mb of space, so they would go for the big numbers! This web space will be very tempting, so almost every hosting account will be filled up with audio & video material, warez, porn etc. Google will have a hard time to control their users...

Why would they jump into this hole?

   Sat Jan 22, 2005    Reply         

If I could choose between a google, new, one gb webhosting or Trap17, supportive, easy-to-use webhosting, I would go with Trap17.

I am a very big supporter of google, i've never said anything bad about them. I 100% support thier search engine and other products such as Desktop Search. I just don't think google would work out as a free webhosting provider. I also think alot of people would stick with payed webbhosting instead of switching to google free.

   Sat Jan 22, 2005    Reply         

yeah,refering to google,we could not image what it will plan...because google is an awesome web company.as u know,google leads the web business by its powerful search engine and convenient gmail.what we wanna expect is web hosting? ohhh,if google makes it,google will be successful and ahead around web field.:P

that is a good idea for google especially web fans on the understanding that offer real free web hosting like trap17...the EXPECTATIVE plan!

   Sat Jan 22, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (Xedos)

If I could choose between a google, new, one gb webhosting or Trap17, supportive, easy-to-use webhosting, I would go with Trap17.

I am a very big supporter of google, i've never said anything bad about them. I 100% support thier search engine and other products such as Desktop Search. I just don't think google would work out as a free webhosting provider. I also think alot of people would stick with payed webbhosting instead of switching to google free.
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I would choose google if it is free, because it will have more space, and I don't have to post to extend my hosting credits. And I thing google has a little more reputation and will probably last a little longer.
Face it, we don't know when will trap17 be closed, or bought, or become collecting fees, it could happen any day.

   Sat Jan 22, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (synapticflame)

Is that a mistake? Maybe...
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Google Watch do shows that Google could be dangerous... And I completely believe what the site claimed. Face it, nearly every enterprises do many evil things... Google, Yahoo!, Disney, McDonald's, Microsoft...

QUOTE (burgen)

I would choose google if it is free, because it will have more space, and I don't have to post to extend my hosting credits. And I thing google has a little more reputation and will probably last a little longer.
Face it, we don't know when will trap17 be closed, or bought, or become collecting fees, it could happen any day.
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Ha... :D I guess you should be prepared to leave Trap17 anytime! :P

   Sat Jan 22, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (burgen)

if google can offer 1gb gmail service, it can also offer web hosting service, with great feature, for free.                                                                                                               
unlike email services, now the market of webhosting is so divided and nobody really dominates, there are so many small hosting business. imagine google provide a free hosting service, say 1gt space, how long will it take before google takes over this business?                                                                                                             
and it makes sense for google to provide such services, indeed google will be able to gain ultamate access to numerous web servers.
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I think that's a great idea. They have probably already thought of it though. Maybe there in the process of doing it now for all we know :P

That would be a great way for them to advertise too...even though they are EVERYWHERE now!

   Sun Jan 23, 2005    Reply         

That would be cool...having your site hosted by Google.


"http://www.sitehere.google.com"

I don't know why, but that amuses me. I don't think the bandwith would be good, though. Having the whole search engine with your site..I don't know.

   Sun Jan 23, 2005    Reply         

Google sure has the means to start free webhosting! I heard somewhere that MSN was giveing out webspaces (never saw it, maybe just a rumor) but msn is the devil (read microsoft :P) All Im saying is that Im a loyal google fan! I always search with google, I use gmail, and if they get their own IM, im going to use that too!!!

GOOGLE WILL CONQUER THE WORLD (starting with your computer :P )

   Tue Jan 25, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (EricDrinkard)

Google Should change is blooger service and make it into web hosting. There blogger service has no advertising on it now however it did when it first came out.

This is what I was looking for in a host

Free
Large Storage
PHP
Email
Great Add-ons
friendly support
tools
And Site Stats

And Guess what I get that already.

Thanks
Eric Drinkard

Trap17 Forever
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Yeah, I dont get why so many people keep using blogs... Make your own site, be your own boss, create it the way you want, and just have fun doing so!
The things I look for in a webhost:

Free
Reasonable Storage
Reasonable Bandwith
PHP and MySQL
Email
Cpanel and fantastico
good community
good support
friendly support
fast support :P

   Tue Jan 25, 2005    Reply         

Nah, even if google made its own free webhosting service, it wouldnt make any difference. Plus I think that trap17 has pretty much dominated the FREE webhosting business which includes unlimited of practicaly everything. Plus I dont think google would let you have good things like cpanel and php and mysql, stuff like that and google would make there own control panel which would prolly be hard to use. Just like every other place. :P

   Sat Jan 29, 2005    Reply         

I want a space:
stable,fast,
100M space,
PHP,MYSQL
don't have to be active.
cheap.

   Fri Feb 4, 2005    Reply         

QUOTE (Fu Still Better)

That would be cool...having your site hosted by Google.
"http://www.sitehere.google.com"

I don't know why, but that amuses me. I don't think the bandwith would be good, though. Having the whole search engine with your site..I don't know.
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I dont think they will give that kind of urls, because google puts their services on sub domains too... Maybe something yourname.web.google.com or they might put them on a new domain or something (Yourname.Googlehost.com or something :S )

   Sat Feb 5, 2005    Reply         

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