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Would You Use Ie Explorer Even If It Wasn't Bundled With Windows?

 
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Netscape Navigator was the leading browser in the market before Internet Explorer (IE) was forced onto people who bought the Windows operating system. If I'm not wrong, Bill Gates didn't believe in the potential of the internet at first and that's why Microsoft didn't release any mainstream products relating to the internet in the early days. However, when they saw how successful other companies became due to the net, they hurriedly put together the clumsy browser called IE, bundled it together with a new Windows version (I believe it was 95?) and threw it out into the open.

At that time Windows' popularity was only increasing, so it was only natural that people who bought the OS used the browser readily since they weren't required to download and install a new one. This is the secret behind IE's "success".

Anyway, that was a long time ago and now many people are ditching the browser for better ones. What about you? Are you one of those who still uses IE because it's ready-to-use or do you take the trouble t install a better browser? :lol:

   Tue Sep 15, 2009    Reply         

I stopped using IE few years ago. Don't know when exactly. These days i open IE only to check the CSS/Site design. Also when i go to cyber cafe while traveling i gotta use IE. Why ? Many Cyber cafe owners think that they know it all but don't install alternate browsers. They have no idea about Browser hijacker scripts for IE. And still we've to manage with such cafes who use IE 5/6. Some spywares are such horrible for IE5/6 that they restart Internet explorer and after penetration into browser they get into disk as well. Restarting explorer.exe most of the time. IE 8 did have option of sandbox browsing for security but is that working at all ? We're discovering security flaws every now and then from IE bandwagon. So no point in sticking with IE.

On my personal computer, i switched my default browser to firefox. Opera is also good option for default browser. But i can't live without some of the add-ons on firefox. So i have no option other than firefox as of now. But i'm comfortable with chrome, opera. I'll not use IE even if it is bundled with newer version of windows. So i'll go with installing better browser than that.

   Tue Sep 15, 2009    Reply         

If IE wasn't bundled with Windows there is no way I would even consider it. As soon as I heard Google were releasing a browser (Chrome) I switched to it and haven't looked back. Sleek. Stylish. Secure.

   Tue Sep 15, 2009    Reply         


I don't use it anyway however, I disagree that microsoft should not be allowed to bundle them together, it's their product what they do with it is there problem, OSX give you safari, most linux distro's come with firefox, so you can't complain. Forcing an update to IE 6 would be good though, because the recent IE is quite good, though I preger firefox, and even that has problems.

   Tue Sep 15, 2009    Reply         

Hmm... I would choose FireFox over Internet Explorer except for the fact that FF seems to use Java. I've noticed the ram taken up by the browser is huge compared to that of IE.

I would much rather have a FF but without the Java. Something more lightweight.

My issue with IE is that most of the exploits on websites work on IE as that's what they're designed for...

TBH it's kind of like a Linux Vs. Windows question. Both have their positives, both have their negatives.

   Wed Sep 16, 2009    Reply         

I quit using Internet Explorer years ago when I discovered Firefox. I know everyone has their preferences - mine is Firefox. Basically, Internet Explorer takes up space on my computer and that's about it. I'm not sure why I haven't removed it yet. Either way, bundled or not, I don't use Internet Explorer.

   Wed Sep 16, 2009    Reply         


I think IE's days are numbered now. It has the most number of loopholes than any other browser and no matter how much MS says its safe, the damage is done now. And all those users lazy enough to switch to another browser better be careful because you never know how smart the cracker is, who's using the loopholes to gain access to your system!

   Wed Sep 16, 2009    Reply         

QUOTE (The Simpleton)

I think IE's days are numbered now. It has the most number of loopholes than any other browser and no matter how much MS says its safe, the damage is done now. And all those users lazy enough to switch to another browser better be careful because you never know how smart the cracker is, who's using the loopholes to gain access to your system!
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The issue is, like I posted in another thread, cracking/hacking is a cat-and-mouse game. No matter how smart you are, someone is always smarter.

The reason there are more exploits/etc. on IE is because more people use it than anything else. There's no point in "cracking/hacking" something most people don't use anyways.

I'm sure if FireFox ever gets to become the more mainstream browser there will be a lot more exploits being hunted/found.

   Wed Sep 16, 2009    Reply         

I don't use it even though it is bundled with Windows. In fact, if Internet Explorer wasn't bundled with Windows, I'd bet that it would go the same way that Netscape went. In fact, most people that I know that still use Internet Explorer only use it because they didn't know that anything else existed to browse the internet.

   Wed Sep 16, 2009    Reply         

No way man. IE is the worst browser out there. Ony reason it's the market leader because it's a bundled software.

   Wed Sep 16, 2009    Reply         

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Hmm... I would choose FireFox over Internet Explorer except for the fact that FF seems to use Java. I've noticed the ram taken up by the browser is huge compared to that of IE.


Firefox doesn't use java. You've to install java add-ons only if you wish to view browser contents. So that makes it browser runtime. Firefox is not written in java and it is not using java for it's underlying operation. If you check the Help > About Mozzila Firefox you'll find following details. Atleast i got this from my Mozilla.

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Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) Gecko/20080201 Firefox/2.0.0.12


From this information i can say that it is not built on java. But it is built on .NET. As .NET is also like java i.e it uses VM. So expect similar performance from it. If you compare FF with chrome then you'll find boost in performance. Why ? Cause Chrome on windows is written on ATL. For more information about ATL/WTL you can check chromium developement site. I used to think that opera is written in java, but i was wrong on that. None of leading browsers are written using java. C++ is used for developing browsers. Variations in C++ could be there but atleast there is C++ behind it.

   Wed Sep 16, 2009    Reply         

If Windows didn't come bundled with a browser, how would i be able to download other browsers? I would at least require it to download other browsers on Windows, since there's no such thing as a repository, like in Linux, where i can search and download all kinds of browsers from. It doesn't matter if it were Internet Explorer or something else, i would still require a browser with download capabilities to be able to navigate to the website of my favorite browser and download it from there. So, in other words, yes, i would still use it, but not for anything other than what is "necessary."

   Wed Sep 16, 2009    Reply         

that's why have firfox AND the firfox installation program on my usb drive. i have never used ie on a new install. sometime a website will require ie. that's the only time i will use it....usually it's a microsoft website haha

QUOTE (truefusion)

If Windows didn't come bundled with a browser, how would i be able to download other browsers? I would at least require it to download other browsers on Windows, since there's no such thing as a repository, like in Linux, where i can search and download all kinds of browsers from. It doesn't matter if it were Internet Explorer or something else, i would still require a browser with download capabilities to be able to navigate to the website of my favorite browser and download it from there. So, in other words, yes, i would still use it, but not for anything other than what is "necessary."
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   Wed Sep 16, 2009    Reply         

I stopped using Internet Explorer so long ago it isn't funny.
It is a virus trap as well as prone to crashing constantly.
While Firefox is not perfect, it is certainly better than Internet
Explorer.
I don't know why Microsoft doesn't just bundle it(Firefox) with their
new operating systems or just build an entirely new browser from scratch.

   Thu Sep 17, 2009    Reply         

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If Windows didn't come bundled with a browser, how would i be able to download other browsers?


lol that's a good question, and while there is a sensible answer (i.e. getting the installation program from another source), one has to agree that it is convenient to download stuff like that instead of getting it from a cd or elsewhere. And I don't think one will get into trouble by using IE to download some other browser.

   Tue Sep 22, 2009    Reply         

one thing that i like in FF is the drag and drop tabs. but i donno in latest version of IE if they already have that feature too

   Tue Sep 22, 2009    Reply         

No, why would anyone use Internet Explorer if it wasn't bundled with Windows? I've asked some people why they don't want to try Firefox, and the reason is always something along the lines of "I don't feel like downloading a whole new browser when I already have one that seems to work just fine." If they didn't have that excuse, anyone would take Firefox or Opera, unless of course they'd only heard of Internet Explorer.

   Tue Sep 22, 2009    Reply         

It'd be awesome if windows came with Firefox built-in. But yeah, as truefusion said, how in the world would we download a browser on a clean and fresh copy of Windows? We'd need a disc or something that HAS the software preburned onto it along with other programs. (Like ComputerBuyer) or PC World dics etc., but no. I wouldn't use Internet Explorer if it wasnt bundled with Windows. Internet Explorer sucks, and that's that. It'll never get better, all bug fixes repaired since Microsoft sucks. However, other people have their own opinions about each and every browser they use.

   Tue Sep 22, 2009    Reply         

Internet Explorer is quite heavy and slow browser. I have used chrome IE and firefox.... but found firefox the best. Firefox is more fast reliable and more secure.

   Mon Sep 28, 2009    Reply         

I wouldn't use IE even if it would be bundled :P But if it was not bundled and we it wasn't so popular as it is now, for example would use only 3% of the market, as a web designer I would install it, because I would need to test how everything works.. Nowadays using IE8 isn't a problem, as it passes the Acid 2 test 100% and is much faster than previous versions, the only problem for me with IE is IE6 and IE7, usually I don't care about IE5 anymore as it's really dead for me and people who browse with it these days I think understand that they won't see most of the websites as they want to or needs to be shown. :(

So I practically wouldn't use it, but would install it. :lol:

   Mon Sep 28, 2009    Reply         

well if there are no other browser such as firefox or opera or safari.. i have no choice but to use IE
even if id wasn't good at all and bill gates had a crime because of this.. because IE is not a part
of an OS he only include it for his own desire

   Mon Sep 28, 2009    Reply         

I had used Internet Explorer 2 years ago and i have a bad think about this browser.Its difficult to find a plugins and alwaus when i start over some plugins is missing.Now I discovered Google Chrome Browser and its easy to use and all thinks are simple.

   Mon Sep 28, 2009    Reply         

Although I have used most of the web browsers that are available in the market today including Internet Explorer 7, but still I would say that I would not have use Internet Explorer if it wasn't bundled with windows. The reason behind this is the surfing experience in IE. It really sucks on slow connections and I have also personal feeling that IE is more prone to hacking and virus attacks because I remember when I last use it, my system got infected with virus and this happen with me more than four times. Since then I have stopped using it. Now Opera 10 which is still in beta stage and Firefox are my favorite browsers. When anything goes wrong with one I switch to other one. I have no regret in saying that I have used IE only because it was bundled with windows otherwise if it wasn't bundled with windows I would have never used it.

   Mon Sep 28, 2009    Reply         

I probably wouldn't use it if it wasn't bundled with windows. I don't use it normally either and it's only very rarely when a web page looks broken in FireFox that I'll switch to IE to see if it works properly there. I've come across web pages that state they only work with Internet Explorer. That's just stupid IMO.

IE feels really slow and the last time I used it (which was really long ago) I kept getting errors on web pages that work fine in Firefox.

   Tue Sep 29, 2009    Reply         

IE has a really bad profile and almost everyone has something bad to say about it, even the devoted users themselves! I wouldn't go near IE myself. It's just too full of flaws!

   Thu Oct 1, 2009    Reply         

No, i dont like internet explorer very much i thing that google chrome and mozila are the best.its hard to find a plugins for interenet explorer but if somebody really want that browser he will found.

   Wed Oct 21, 2009    Reply         

I don't get to choose lately, because I'm forced to use the computers at my local library. And, of course, they use Windows and IE.

But otherwise, Firefox, all the way. I also like Google Chrome.

I think the only reason IE is used so much IS because it is bundled with windows. None of my web developers use it for anything but checking their sites work with it, and they keep on telling me it's a nightmare to get the sites to behave the way they should with IE...

   Wed Oct 21, 2009    Reply         

In Windows 7, Microsoft has removed many programs that were earlier bundled together with earlier versions, like Movie Maker, messenger, etc and these have become part of Windows Live Essentials, right? This move signifies Microsoft's belief that these "essentials" aren't considered that essential by most users and so it wont make that much of a difference if they were unbundled. But IE hasn't been removed! So Microsoft is still thinking that its browser is a hit and removing it would make many users unsatisfied - they couldn't be more wrong! I would like to see IE included among Live Essentials as well so that then we can see how many true "fans" exist for the browser!

   Tue Oct 27, 2009    Reply         

I'm a web designer and I absolutely HATE internet explorer!!
all browsers should be like firefox...

   Tue Oct 27, 2009    Reply         

I now use IE, I use a custom protection service made by me & To speed webpages up I use Google Frame, Google Frame is basically an addon for IE in which makes it like Google Plumbing of the internet as I would call it. Say if your parents, friends etc like to use IE and will never switch download this for a better browsing expirence.

To get it Simply Google "Google Frame"

   Tue Oct 27, 2009    Reply         

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