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[kvarnerexpress]

Many fans (over 83% in a 2002 survey) hold on to the belief that Tupac Shakur may still be alive. There are many suspicious details about his departure that contribute to this.

The uncontested facts:

After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996, Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital. He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.

The suspicious facts:

Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day.

There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.

In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.

The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.

The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life.

Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "2Pac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli". The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Was the video really shot 4 months before his death, back in August of '96?

In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.

A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop was signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.

In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum. In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)

Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.

Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why did he remove it at a very public event like a Tyson fight?

In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death in a murder case?

Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power. In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.

Tupac studied Machiavelli in depth while in prision was a fan and had read his books several times. Perhaps Tupac is taking his advice. Machiaveli wrote two books before his death. Look at what the All Eyez on Me disks are called.. Machiavelli's books were called, "Book 1," and, "Book 2." The CD's of, "All Eyez On Me," are entitled the same

One of Machiavelli's books is, "Discourses Upon The First Ten Books Of Titus Livy," which it's claimed Tupac read in jail. In Book 2, Chapter XIII He says, "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to decieve..." This is very similar to verses in some of Tupac's songs.

Some say that Tupac modified the Machiavelli name because if you rearrange the letters, they spell, "Am Alive," or, "I Am Alive."

The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.

Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.

Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7. It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.

Suspicious? mabye but just tell me what you think

[mbd5882]

Ok hes still alive,
I still beleve that[I already did],
Where did this come from?
It must have tacken u ages too do it.
Anyway...Good post,
Welldone...........

kvarnerexpress, on Apr 27 2005, 08:21 PM, said:

Many fans (over 83% in a 2002 survey) hold on to the belief that Tupac Shakur may still be alive. There are many suspicious details about his departure that contribute to this.

The uncontested facts:

After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996, Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital. He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.

The suspicious facts:

Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day.

There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.

In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.

The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.

The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life.

Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "2Pac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli". The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Was the video really shot 4 months before his death, back in August of '96?

In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli r...............................................................................

Thanks.

[ameribass]

Very interesting. You posted a lot of interesting information. I love mysteries!

[elevenmil]

I am not really aware of the whole deal with his death, yet I'm a big fan of his music. I do in fact believe he is dead, but who knows?

[psyfish]

I'm not sure what to believe. The post that you posted is verry convincing although a lot of it could be coincidinces. When I first read the post I thought you were just parranoid but now I'm not sure. I think the name is just a coincidence same with the number thing, and I'm sure lots of celebrities don't want their funural televised but a few of the things I couldn't explain, so I'm not sure what to think.

[SoulFlower]

I'm his fun, but I don't think so. I'm sure that he's dead.


You must watch doc movie about him - MTV production 2pac-Resurection

[ill]

..and if faked it, as you say, he must of did it for a reason. which was most likely that he did not like being in the limelight, therefore grant his wishes, leave him alone!

[outlawspirit]

ok, let me put it like this...

Tupac Amaru Shakur wanted us to beleive he is dead or he is dead... so Rest In Peace either way...

im a real fan of tupac i mean, i run my own site dedicated to the memory of Yaki Kadafi & Tupac Shakur (http://www.outlawspirit.com)

but yea, i really beleive Tupac is gone and if not... he livin it up somewhere and he isnt coming back...

a legend... rest in peace yak n pac

1 nation

1 thug

[Nani Cheri]

DEAD OR NOT DEAD...It doesnt matter, he made good music and he still got it goin on!

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Reality is wrong. Dreams are for real.
Tupac Shakur

OH YEAH

[Nani Cheri]

ill, on Apr 28 2005, 09:51 PM, said:

..and if faked it, as you say, he must of did it for a reason. which was most likely that he did not like being in the limelight, therefore grant his wishes, leave him alone!

You just take those wise words outta my mouth boy!

[clagnol]

My quotes aren't working. Whatever.

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Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day.

No, it's not.

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There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.

But here's an autopsy photo (warning, though it is not very graphic, it is still a picture of a dead man who has been cut up a bit, so if you are prone to be offended, or are too young to view such materials in your area, please refrain from clicking the link).

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In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.

Lots of rappers do this. It's because most of them grew up in a culture of death, where young black men have very short lifespans.

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The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.

Suge Knight is a criminal, in every sense of the word. Of course he fears the police.

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The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life.

My sources say that he was killed while talking to women at an intersection.

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Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "2Pac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli". The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Was the video really shot 4 months before his death, back in August of '96?

Yes.

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In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.

Perhaps Tupac is a zombie?

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A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop was signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.

Clearly, Snoop Dogg killed Tupac.

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In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum. In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)

Lots of entertainers talk about retiring into obscurity, but few of them do it voluntarily.

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Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.

This website claims that Tupac had a small service in Las Vegas, then two other services.

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Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why did he remove it at a very public event like a Tyson fight?

I'm not convinced that he always wore a bulletproof vest. It would be hot and constricting in many situations.

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In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death in a murder case?

I imagine they cremated him after the coroner had finished his report on the body.

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Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power. In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.

If Tupac really lived the life of Machiavelli's prince, it wouldn't be so hard to imagine that there would be a lot of people who want to kill him.

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Tupac studied Machiavelli in depth while in prision was a fan and had read his books several times. Perhaps Tupac is taking his advice. Machiaveli wrote two books before his death. Look at what the All Eyez on Me disks are called.. Machiavelli's books were called, "Book 1," and, "Book 2." The CD's of, "All Eyez On Me," are entitled the same

One of Machiavelli's books is, "Discourses Upon The First Ten Books Of Titus Livy," which it's claimed Tupac read in jail. In Book 2, Chapter XIII He says, "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to decieve..." This is very similar to verses in some of Tupac's songs.

This is so not compelling.

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Some say that Tupac modified the Machiavelli name because if you rearrange the letters, they spell, "Am Alive," or, "I Am Alive."

In what language? Try it yourself. It's missing letters.

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The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.

Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.

Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7. It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.

Wow, recurring numbers, huh? What are the odds? Pretty good, actually. Take any event and you'll be able to find a host of recurring numbers. We only have so many numbers, of course they're going to show up a few times.

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Suspicious? mabye but just tell me what you think

Not at all. Next time you copy and paste some ridiculous conspiracy theory on the forum, choose something with better arguments.

[krap]

I think he might be alive and who knows if the "autopsy picture" is real anyway? Some of the things like 2+5=7 and all that are just a coincedence i think but it's also true that in none of tupac's posthumous albums there is never an RIP message for him and his family haven't claimed his life insurance(they probably don't need it anyway- I'd guess they're pretty rich with all the albums..).
RIP tupac (if he's not alive that is )

[9block]

Hes dead. It is a crack pot theory and while I respect the man, let it be known he is dead, while under suspicious circumstances.

Look, if my alias was 9block and the corners office never released my body, perhaps I am actually LIVING 9blocks from the murder scene. Im sure you could rearrange nineblock to spell something else and sell that off as a metaphor. Give it up, the man is dead and biggie was better.

[velma]

Well the autopsy pictures can be morphed for in the end people still believe Elvis 'The King' Presley is alive and countless people still say that they have seen him

Whether he is alive or not, whether he did the death thing for real or for a publicity stunt It is his life and his choice so I think we should respect his music ( I liked his music too) and leave his private life to be private.

P.S. I liked both members evidence though. It was a good read

[hateheals]

Could be possible,surprisingly all musicians die under mysterious circumstances,elvis,kurt cobain,jim morrison,michael hutchtance and the list goes on.Regarded as the greatest rapper ever,Tupac just MIGHT have faked his death to gain publicity,and that he did...the facts stated above indicate just that,although im not muchinto hiphop and rap,my plas mentioned this name a lot,so i felt inclined to post here.its a pity the heights people will go to get fame,even at the cost oftheir identety....

[nol]

NO hes dead. Theres no way hes alive no matter what you say. Just because a album is released at a certain date doesn't mean anything. He created tons of underground and undeveloped cds, which were released to raise publicity in the news papers that he is supposedly alive. No way he is. He would be spotted all the time, and not just fake ways either. Tupac is dead, hes a great legend but hes dead, and theres no way he will be brought back to life no matter what.

[whiskers_w]

mbd5882, on Apr 27 2005, 05:03 PM, said:

Ok hes still alive,
I still beleve that[I already did],
Where did this come from?
It must have tacken u ages too do it.
Anyway...Good post,
Welldone...........
Thanks.

I'm twisted up about it for 2 reasons: I have seen his mom up close and personal, and knowing what I know about parents who have lost a child, (i'm one myself) I have seen that emptyness in her eyes -especially when we reminisce about Pac... On the other hand, Afeni was a trained actress, so I have been told, and all this stuff has the mark of study and intelligence written all over it. Pac was a genius, and genius expresses itself in many ways. Was his death another manifestation of his genius? Or are we simply reaching, wanting him to still be here among us even though he is long gone?

Whatever the case, in reality Pac is immortal as an artist, and for that reason above all others, Tupac Amaru Shakur will never die! Rest In Peace, Tupac... Long Live Tupac.

[iGuest]

question?.
Is Tupac Shakur Alive?

How did you get this information on pac?.
B/see every site I go to has the same information and I'm tired of wasting my time going to different sites w/ the same information.So did you copy and paste information and make this site? or did you read about it?.
Juss wondering.
I mean it would be nice if I could go to one web page that did have the same information on pac as all the other web pages.

Thanks,.

Feel free to email me back,
Racheal

-reply by Racheal

[iGuest]

tupac is a legend
Is Tupac Shakur Alive?

Do you really think tupac is dead. Did the police find his body. How do you know.Think about it. Fill free to write back.

[iGuest]

Think more and you will find an answer
Is Tupac Shakur Alive?

You will find all you answers and questions in the music. You will find a path wich will show you the way to Makaveli.
... Will not come back. People think 7day theory is all about 7 years. It took a week to die. And many years to think, not several years thinking on when and how I should come back. This world is falling apart, and you thinks about a persons death/life theories?
Well, if you wanna find the answer, listen to the music. Not deep, dig deeper MUCH deeper. Think smart and do NOT be a fool.

-reply by L.P.C

[iGuest]

is tupac dead?
Is Tupac Shakur Alive?

Everyone at school says hes dead but I don't know what to believe!
I came across this site while looking for information about tupac so I could do a biography.
I still believe he is alive but I do have doubt I want the world to know he is alive!

-reply by mariah powe

[iGuest]

im not sure
Is Tupac Shakur Alive?

Replying to kvarnerexpress
I am a fan of 2pac and I wish he wasnt dead even if he was still alive he must have a reason for faking a dead one so people should stop being suspicouse and leave the fact that he isnt around anymore alone.
There has to be a good reason behind him in hiding if itis true

I'm reppin for 2 pac




-reply by mariah powe

[iGuest]

hes not alive1
Is Tupac Shakur Alive?

Tupac is dead and you better believe coz it shows his autopsy right here!
Go to this site
Http://www.Franksree...upacautopsy.Htm
In 1997, a photo the photo above was published that supposedly depicted Tupac Shakur's autopsy.
Now do you believe he is dead yet?
Yer
Thats right




-reply by mariah powe

[iGuest]

life goes on line
Is Tupac Shakur Alive?

In this song life goes on he raps about one of his old friends and getting his name tattooed on his arm2:18 but if you look at all his tattoos he has no names tattooed on his body the closest thing is the word notorious for biggie but didnt biggie get killed after pac??

-reply by pacfan4lyfe

[Freddy Gipson]

I highly doubt that after getting shot so many times Tupac would just drop dead.