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[Styx]

ok, i've upgraded from photoshop CS to CS2.
i like it, there's new features and perks that make work so much easier.
i don't like that the box beside the layers is gone, linking and grouping, making layer sets, etc, is alot more time consuming than it was before. IMO, that should not have been changed. But to make up for that, the ability to customise menus is there, a truly great feature.
what are your thoughts on CS2, its pros & cons?

[hellgate]

what!!! is there CS2!!!?? i didnt know that ...!!!
how is that possible!! is it trial or demo or something!!!
i really never heard about it!!

[sunster13]

me neither, when did it come out?

[Odyssey]

Never heard about this version, are you sure that you dont have a glitched version of Photoshop? Theres nothing about it on google

[Señor Maniac]

Check the adobe site. I think they mentioned something about it. I am not sure but I think that I did see something about a CS2. But you should check for yourself.

I did find the linnk on the adobe site and here it is.

http://www.adobe.com...ewfeatures.html

[Johnny]

Okay guys, guess who got Photoshop CS2 yesterday (and forgot to post about it.) Yup, I did! Don't ask how though.

Anyways, CS2 is pretty cool, it has a couple new features, but nothing too "WOWAWESOMEMGOMGOMG"-ish. The smart objects and such aren't really anything too special... They did, however, make the history and layer box into one, which gets annoying, switching back and forth, but I think you can change that...

What I did notice right away, however, is that CS2 still takes just as long to load as CS did, only now it takes even more memory. Every time a dialog box loads it takes about a minute, which is a LONG time for a simple box to load up. It's almost sickening how long it takes to load up the filter gallery. Seriously.

So, my advice to anyone looking to upgrade from 7 or CS, don't. If you already have those, you're fine, and you're not missing out on anything much. All you're going to do is spend more money on a slower, very very slightly modified Photoshop.

***Oh, and also, for some REALLY stupid reason that I don't know, my keyboard shortcuts no longer work. That means everything from copy/paste to creating new layers to deselecting. I'm probably gonna get totally irritated and move back down to CS sometime soon.

And this is all coming from a guy who, 72 hours ago, couldn't wait to get his hands on it.

EDIT -- Hurgh, I accidentally started a new topic about this, because this wasn't in the Photoshop forum, and therefore, I didn't see it. I wouldn't have thought to look in Software...

EDIT2 -- My Adobe "Bridge" also doesn't load at all, it just gives an error and closes. I'm sure it doesn't do this in the "store-bought" version, but still...it sucks.

Edited by Johnny, 29 April 2005 - 12:17 AM.

[rejected]

It's quite a bit slower than CS, and the download was 336 mb! I mean that's a lot of space, and I don't see many new features at all.
Nothing really new, I'm going to downgrade to 1 where I have already registered.
Not very good, I'm kind of depressed.

[Johnny]

rejected, on Apr 28 2005, 06:54 PM, said:

It's quite a bit slower than CS, and the download was 336 mb! I mean that's a lot of space, and I don't see many new features at all.
Nothing really new, I'm going to downgrade to 1 where I have already registered.
Not very good, I'm kind of depressed.

Oh, is there a trial version out too? I didn't know that...I have the full one...

[Styx]

oh no, i forgot where to put this post. didn't occur to me about the photoshop section.
NEways, i'm adding some more comments on it.
I haven't had any problem with Adobe Bridge opening. not like it's a feature i'll be using so much (don't think) because i never used the file browser either.
the full and trial version are the same. when installing it asks if you want to install the full version, or just a 30 day trial. of course you need the serial for the full version.
it can handle the 64-bit processors, and huge ram amounts, better than CS. so if u fall into that category, it's worth. otherwise i would stick with CS too. i mean, i like a lot of the new stuff in CS2, but the price isn't worth it yet. in a while it'll be cheaper. but maybe one reason why it worked slower for you is because it needs a much better computer to run properly than CS1. suppose it'll be the same with Longhorn--it's supposed to need this great system to run properly.
yeah, opening time for me was also about the same as CS. but it does run faster for me, once opened.
the keyboard shortcuts worked fine for me, no problem, and i could edit and change them.
well, nothing so extremely awesome, but it does help me shave off precious minutes here and there when working.

BTW--has anyone gotten the full Creative Suite CS2 yet?

[Johnny]

Styx, on Apr 30 2005, 06:59 AM, said:

oh no, i forgot where to put this post. didn't occur to me about the photoshop section. 
NEways, i'm adding some more comments on it.
I haven't had any problem with Adobe Bridge opening. not like it's a feature i'll be using so much (don't think) because i never used the file browser either.
the full and trial version are the same. when installing it asks if you want to install the full version, or just a 30 day trial. of course you need the serial for the full version.
it can handle the 64-bit processors, and huge ram amounts, better than CS. so if u fall into that category, it's worth. otherwise i would stick with CS too. i mean, i like a lot of the new stuff in CS2, but the price isn't worth it yet. in a while it'll be cheaper. but maybe one reason why it worked slower for you is because it needs a much better computer to run properly than CS1. suppose it'll be the same with Longhorn--it's supposed to need this great system to run properly.
yeah, opening time for me was also about the same as CS. but it does run faster for me, once opened.
the keyboard shortcuts worked fine for me, no problem, and i could edit and change them.
well, nothing so extremely awesome, but it does help me shave off precious minutes here and there when working.

BTW--has anyone gotten the full Creative Suite CS2 yet?

Well, yeah, ever since my old processor burned out, I've been running on a really crappy system. That's most likely the root of all evil. I dunno what the deal is with my keyboard shortc----

YES! Prince of Persia's done! *runs off*

[Odyssey]

Hmm, after taking a look at Adobe's website, the new features seem interesting. But since Macromedia and Adobe mered, it wouldnt been nice to see a version of photoshop and dreamweaver combined into one nice application

[Danieluchis]

well... im running on CS and i like it, my best friend told me that he got his new PS and it totally sucked, so well im not losing anything good, besides.. i don't like CS much, and he also told me that it REALLY slowed his computer

[JaVe]

I have it too, it suddenly came out, no big launch and no news on yahoo or anything. Adobe is a bit boring though, i like corel painter for now. But hey, adobe will awlays be essential. Like a side kick. I aquired it but hey, im only a a kid.

[sunster13]

One of my friends said that Photoshop C2 had something called a perspective point or something like that, where if I were to cut the background from an image that had a tilt (like a school behind me in the foreground) it would change the perspective of the school. I know I sound confusing, but I can't remember what it is called, sorry.

[Odyssey]

I was talking with my friends, and they also said that it slows down the computer a lot. Probably not worth it to upgrade then for me

[Johnny]

Odyssey, on Apr 30 2005, 01:05 PM, said:

Hmm, after taking a look at Adobe's website, the new features seem interesting. But since Macromedia and Adobe mered, it wouldnt been nice to see a version of photoshop and dreamweaver combined into one nice application

That would make for a GIGANTIC program, that would suck resources and kill your memory. X.x Two seperate programs for two entirely different things.

Danieluchis, on Apr 30 2005, 01:32 PM, said:

well... im running on CS and i like it, my best friend told me that he got his new PS and it totally sucked, so well im not losing anything good, besides.. i don't like CS much, and he also told me that it REALLY slowed his computer

Why don't you like CS?

JaVe, on Apr 30 2005, 01:59 PM, said:

I have it too, it suddenly came out, no big launch and no news on yahoo or anything.  Adobe is a bit boring though, i like corel painter for now.  But hey, adobe will awlays be essential.  Like a side kick.  I aquired it but hey, im only a a kid.

Hah, Adobe, a side kick. Never heard that one before. I know some people can live without Photoshop, but seriously, it's the king of graphics programs. And it's definitely not a side kick to Corel. Painter is pretty awesome, but have you SEEN Bryce? It's LAME.

Yeah, that was weird about the underground releasing type thing though.

sunster13, on Apr 30 2005, 02:14 PM, said:

One of my friends said that Photoshop C2 had something called a perspective point or something like that, where if I were to cut the background from an image that had a tilt (like a school behind me in the foreground) it would change the perspective of the school.  I know I sound confusing, but I can't remember what it is called, sorry.

It's called Vanishing Point, and it's really not all it's cracked up to be. Wow, you can make a school taller. I don't really see too much use out of it. X.x

Odyssey, on Apr 30 2005, 02:43 PM, said:

I was talking with my friends, and they also said that it slows down the computer a lot. Probably not worth it to upgrade then for me

Depends on the system. Don't base your entire argument on what someone else's computer can do. I heard it was slow, but I figured I'd check it out. It was still slow on my compy too, but that's probably cause mine is a hunk of junk.

[Styx]

i didn't find vanishi[quote]ng point all that useful either.
what would be nice, instead of adobe and macromedia combining the two into one product, would be to have the option to generate code in ASP and PHP in Imageready.
[quote]QUOTE(Danieluchis @ Apr 30 2005, 01:32 PM)
well... im running on CS and i like it, my best friend told me that he got his new PS and it totally sucked, so well im not losing anything good, besides.. i don't like CS much, and he also told me that it REALLY slowed his computer
*[/quote]
what do you mean? you like CS but you don't?

[/quote]I have it too, it suddenly came out, no big launch and no news on yahoo or anything. Adobe is a bit boring though, i like corel painter for now. But hey, adobe will awlays be essential. Like a side kick. I aquired it but hey, im only a a kid.[QUOTE]
How is Adobe boring? Photoshop is king of the graphics programs. I find it much more versatile than Corel.

[Styx]

aaargh! i messed up the formatting in my previous post!!!!
Why isn't there an EDIT button!!??

[Anndi]

Wow, there's a Photoshop CS2 now? I should try it out, even though I never stuck with CS. I'm still using Photoshop 7! I didn't rate CS much, but maybe CS2 is better.

[Odyssey]

Johnny, on May 1 2005, 01:21 AM, said:

That would make for a GIGANTIC program, that would suck resources and kill your memory. X.x Two seperate programs for two entirely different things.

I agree, it woule make a gigantic program. If maybe Adobe watered down their version of photoshop, and implement it into Dreamweaver, maybe it wont be so huge?

Maybe adobe can release Photoshop CS, and Dreamweaver as seperate programs, but in one package that has a bit of a discount if bought together.

Imagine, how many people use Photoshop and Dreamweaver together? I did for my schools website, and the cost of both programs were phonominal.

[Styx]

Odyssey, on May 2 2005, 06:24 AM, said:

I agree, it woule make a gigantic program. If maybe Adobe watered down their version of photoshop, and implement it into Dreamweaver, maybe it wont be so huge?

Maybe adobe can release Photoshop CS, and Dreamweaver as seperate programs, but in one package that has a bit of a discount if bought together.

Imagine, how many people use Photoshop and Dreamweaver together? I did for my schools website, and the cost of both programs were phonominal.

it would be nice if they offered a discount if bought together, but i wouldn't want them to water down the program. there's already photoshop elements that takes care of that. IMO Photoshop would lose its place as a graphics powerhouse if mixed with Dreamweaver. Though perhaps elements and Dreamweaver could work together nicely.

[Odyssey]

True, Photoshop is a great program how it is right now.

[alexia]

oh u said Adobe photoshop
sorry i posting here i know its photoshop topic but
my friend told me Adobe Co bu Macromedia co
is it true ?
i can not find any news about that
if that news is true adobe has much money

[Johnny]

Odyssey, on May 1 2005, 08:24 PM, said:

I agree, it woule make a gigantic program. If maybe Adobe watered down their version of photoshop, and implement it into Dreamweaver, maybe it wont be so huge?

Maybe adobe can release Photoshop CS, and Dreamweaver as seperate programs, but in one package that has a bit of a discount if bought together.

Imagine, how many people use Photoshop and Dreamweaver together? I did for my schools website, and the cost of both programs were phonominal.

NO. BAD. NO WATERING DOWN PHOTOSHOP. But yeah, that discount sounds nice. Photoshop CS3, Imageready CS3 and Dreamweaver CS3 in one nice little package? Sounds good to me.

Styx, on May 2 2005, 03:35 AM, said:

it would be nice if they offered a discount if bought together, but i wouldn't want them to water down the program. there's already photoshop elements that takes care of that. IMO Photoshop would lose its place as a graphics powerhouse if mixed with Dreamweaver.  Though perhaps elements and Dreamweaver could work together nicely.

Lose it's place? Do you know how many people use Photoshop and Dreamweaver side by side for websites? TONS.

alexia, on May 3 2005, 02:12 AM, said:

oh u said Adobe photoshop
sorry i posting here i know its photoshop topic but
my friend told me Adobe Co bu Macromedia co
is it true ?
i can not find any news about that
if that news is true adobe has much money 

Yes, Adobe bought out Macromedia. Here's a link to the press release.
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelatio...macromedia.html

[Odyssey]

I just finished trying out the new version of photoshop. It is extremely bad at eating RAM and hard drive space, but of course I have a crappy computer.

There is really noting new in this version of Photoshop that I would use. But is terrible at draining resources though.