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[enemista]

sunkist, on May 19 2005, 03:46 PM, said:

A while ago, the pay to surf programs were popular.  You would put a toolbar that flashed ads on your screen, and so long as you are surfing you got paid.  It was paultry though.  A few pennies an hour.  I don't know if people made any money from  these.

I have also heard that there are pay to read emails.  Again, I doubt its any money.  Could also be a scam.

Sunkist

yes, those 'pay to surf' programs were popular, but the problem was, that even if they paid, they paid very little money for the time you had to invest to them. The only who was earning bug money were people who were running these programs.

and about those 'pay to read emails'. there are many programs that 'pay' you to read email advertisings. but again, most of these programs dont pay you and even those who pay will pay so little for the time you have invested, that it relly is waste of time.

[bluewater]

I think the internet is where you can make big money for little outlay, it looks like most of the people here who have websites do there own design and programing using Html, PHP and Mysql. These are very powerful tools if you have learnt them and they are not hard to learn, i am self taught on all three and learnt by reading tutorials on the web i then brought books and learnt more. If you know how to design a website with the above three then i think you are halfway there, being that you don,t have to pay for design and development, the inital cost of any web business would have to be design especially if it requires a database. You can do it for free and at your own pace and while you work, the internet is still in its infancy and will be around long after we are dead and gone so there no rush to get it all done next week.

Web design can require alot of your time so pick carefully what you do with it, i started about five years ago put all my time into a project which i gave up on after about 6 months and haven,t done any web work until now, why because i lost interest in what i wanted to and thought i was all to hard to make any money unless you had plenty to get started. I have some what change my view since then and below is some of my thoughts.

1. I believe there is no more "quickmoney" to be made on the internet (legally) if you know of any any please let me know. Its all take time to build a good site and attract traffic.

2.You don,t need a tangible product to make money from the internet. dating sites or job sites don,t have tangible products. They are sites where people put information that other people want and usually pay to do so. The internet is the information highway and we are paying for that information more and more everyday.

3.History does repeat itself on the internet. Just like in real life how many time do you see a petrol (Gas) station across the road from another petrol (Gas) station, do you think the guy who built the second one thought that it was no use building a petrol station across the road form the first guy because he had the market cornered Hell No! he/she would of looked at the market and seen there was enough traffic to support both businesses and after a few price wars it all settle down and they both have a profitable business. The worlds population is growing not reducing, the number of internet users is growing at a rapid rate not declining so there is plenty of room to build your "petrol (Gas) station" on the web.

4. What is your market?. Globle, National, Statewide, Local. This is an important factor when deciding on what internet business you want to provide, are there any "non Tangible" services you can provide in you local area or state. Most people who want to meet other people don,t like to travel to far, Maybe a local dating service or specialised local job market. CD's and Books are easy to distribute thru the mail but what about Organic food and Vegies these need to have a more specialised delivery systems and usually supplied locally, what else falls into the same category.

5. Traffic? Well if its a Global or National business you would want then list with as many free search engines as u can and hope for the best or spend big money on advertising in the media and web campains and direct traffic to your site that way.
Building a site that is suited for the state or local market can be a better option as you can advertivse your domain fairly cheaply in the local papers or put up flyer around the communtiny. Start small and expand to other areas as u grow.

6. Research, research and research. Find out who doing what and how, can you find a nice market to slide into. List down all the information site you can find and are people paying for the information, can you duplicate it in you area.


7.Cost. If you can do your own web design then it should be cheap. Domain name for $70 and hosting for $300 per year with decent bandwidth should get you going and if you get plenty of traffic then you have want people want so charge them for it.

[enemista]

This was such a great post bluewater.

I just have to say one sentence to 7th point.

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Domain name for $70 and hosting for $300 per year with decent bandwidth...

I believe this is mistake. You can get domain for one year for $10 and not $70. And also, if you are speaking about decent bandwidth which could be around 25GB monthly, then you shouldnt pay more than $150 yearly for it.

But anyway, this is great post.

[foru2]

enemista, on May 28 2005, 09:57 AM, said:

yes, those 'pay to surf' programs were popular, but the problem was, that even if they paid, they paid very little money for the time you had to invest to them. The only who was earning bug money were people who were running these programs.

and about those 'pay to read emails'. there are many programs that 'pay' you to read email advertisings. but again, most of these programs dont pay you and even those who pay will pay so little for the time you have invested, that it relly is waste of time.

Everyone's experience is a little different, but I've found a few that can really earn you some spare change if you're good at recruiting referrals. The earnings from GPTR programs are small, but can earn you some good advertising for your major money earning programs. Give it a try - they're free to join, so what do you have to lose? Just check my signature for more details.

[enemista]

foru2, on Jun 3 2005, 03:26 PM, said:

Everyone's experience is a little different, but I've found a few that can really earn you some spare change if you're good at recruiting referrals.  The earnings from GPTR programs are small, but can earn you some good advertising for your major money earning programs.  Give it a try - they're free to join, so what do you have to lose? Just check my signature for more details.

I know what I am talking about. I was doing these PTR programs for about 2 years 1 year ago. But I still say, if you want to earn something from this, you have to invest too much time, and if you invested that time into something other (there are many opportunities) you would definetly earn more money than with PTR sites. But everyone can have his own opinion and I respect that.

[melkonianarg]

There are a couple things you can do to make real money...one of them is to do loads of surveys (it does work...really...) another is to setup some sort of website that resells stuff, or sell something new...and another is to simple sell stuff you can find cheap...on EBAY, that works for me...or did until i stopped. I quite like netbux, and if you got enough people to join under u, u could do quite well there, good luck...

[jjhou]

It's going to be hard to earn money using Adsense or Clicksor fast, unless you have a sucessful site, and interesting ads. The only thing to do is keep improving stuff, and when you don't think about it, you'll be surprised to see that you got your paycheck.