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[Steve]

Dreamweaver MX 2004 is probably the best program I beleive ever made. It has such simple controls and if you know HTML and flasah you can design any web layout you want as long as you have a good imagination. And the unique layer sytem is just amazing. When I first doewq

Frontpage isa alsao a very good program but the fact it isa not truly flasah enabled like dreamweaver is, makes it extremly flawed.

[Tyssen]

Steve, on Jul 11 2005, 11:25 AM, said:

Frontpage isa alsao a very good program but the fact it isa not truly flasah enabled like dreamweaver is, makes it extremly flawed.

It's not Frontpage's Flash-support which makes it flawed, it's the overbloated, messy code it produces that makes it flawed.

[Saint_Michael]

well thats well the html tidy comes in but that sometimes screws it up i only dreamweaver for i'm trying to fix errors for a website. but its way better then front page due to the fact you have so much control in what you do.

[lava.alt]

personally i've worked with both editor ... dreamweaver is more flexible to wokr and i think it makes you feel more free, ive seen some designs made with frontpage or with a kind of wizard it have ... the websites are ugly ...

also i saw a gallery generated with a kind of wizard that frontpage have ... and they are horrible ...

i prefer dreamweaver|||

[guangdian]

i just don't know it because i just don't use either ,i just using the notpad for page or just install some cms or bbs

[DjLuki]

i never used dreamweaver, i used frontpage most of the time but i havent even seen waht dreamweaer looks like .. i thought frontpage was good actually lol.. is there a place whre i can download dreamweaver by itself? i don't wanna download the whole pack, the mx studio thing, takes to long and don't need it.if you know a link, can ya pm it to me please? cause i probbably will forget to look on this board again, but i'll try to come and see it.

[Steve]

Well go to macromedia.com and download a trial version. Then go to google and search Macromedia Dreamweaver 2004 MX serial code. Look it up and put it in where it says enter serial code and you got yourself maybe the best program on the internet.

It kills frontpage and fronpage does make a horrible messy code. The dreamweaver comes out nice and slick and the layer system is so great. You feel like your in control of everything!

[epox]

definitly dreamweaver is the winner,it has all what a web developer dreams and the integration with the rest of macromedia software makes it simply the best, specially flash and coldfusion support.

don't mess arround, macromedia is the best solution for web design and creativity

[[i]_R_Crazy_Idiot]

The fact that Frontpage is Microsoft...

Lol jk.

But seriously, Microsoft products tend to have sloppy coding. I've never used Frontpage, but I like Dreamweaver a lot.

[tuddy]

Frontpage Vs Dreamweaver debate again!

Frontapge really is quite easy to use for a beginner to HTML, and is an easy way to learn some basic Tags.

Frontpage can cut back alot of work from typing cose out manually if you don't know what your doing.

On the other hand dreamweaver gives you the flexibilty to do lots more with your site.

It may also give you some trouble if you have no idea how to use the program to its full ability.

It depends on the person, Microsoft have easy to use, slopy code, bug infected programs.

Macromedia have fully featured programs giving you full control over content and is great.

Enough blah blah from me...

[Milovoriel]

Sometimes, financial constraints mean that we don't actually have a choice between the two .... I'd love Dreamweaver .... I'd love a good graphics tool, like maybe Paintshop pro .... I'd love to win millions on the lottery and have a mansion and holiday in the Bahamas .... but it ain't happening ....

so it's a bit annoying when people slate Frontpage saying it produces ugly web pages .... I'm acutely aware of the limitations of my website .... so please don't rub it in ....

Cheerie ....

[xec]

I started off with frontpage. Used that for about 8 months. I felt like I needed a better program that gave me more control over what I wanted to do (with my limited html knowledge). Then my friend introduced me to Dreamweaver. I've been using it ever since.

[Galahad]

I hate programs that guess what I wan't and try to finish, or fill in the blanks... Frontpage must be the most worthless piece of software ever made Dreamweaver MX 2004 rules... Though, the feature where it automaticaly closes the tag I open, goes on my nerves a bit

But compared to frontpages messy code, stuffed with worthless unnecessary tags and code... Peach

Gooooooooo Dreamweaver!

[cragllo]

Frontpage is rubbish, cant set table borders to 0, and i made a template for someone in Dreamweaver, they opened it in Frontpage, and it looked completley different, the background images of tables i added (using css) did noit show at all. and dreamweaver does not have a unique layers system, loads of other programs have the ability to add layers, the same as Dreamweaver does... layers are only for dreamweaver, you dont get different html for different programs, layers arent unique to dreamweaver.

[isaacraja]

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I started off with frontpage. Used that for about 8 months. I felt like I needed a better program that gave me more control over what I wanted to do (with my limited html knowledge). Then my friend introduced me to Dreamweaver. I've been using it ever since

Same thing with me.I started with Frontapage.But whenever i was introduced Dreamweaver.I liked it very much.Dreamwever is very easy & complex to use.No Microsoft ony understandable codes are generated by Dreamweaver.Fully XHTML complaint.That is what i like with Dreamweaver.

[leiaah]

I kinda like Frontpage since it's easy to use if you know any other MS Office products. I started out using it and up to now I still do my layouts there since I find doing the tables and cells in Frontpage easier compared to Dreamweaver. Once I'm done with the layout I add the behaviors and other javascripts using Dreamweaver.

Personally, I think these two softwares work best together. They don't need to be compared.

[shigajet]

I think I saw this debate before...but I'll throw in my two cents. I have Dreamweaver MX on my machine and it's great! There's a lot you can do and you can integrate other Macromedia applications (Flash/Fireworks/Freehand/ColdFusion) into it to potentially make an amazing website!

[maresan]

My first homepage was made using frontpage express. Then I tried Dreamweaver and my life changed - It is true, that frontpage is easier to use for MS Office users, but dreamveawer has so much more to offer. And makes cleaner codes.
For those who still don't know what to choose and don't want to buy expensive programs - I recommend trying NVU - it is an open source programe, very easy to use and with nice user interface.

[muksimp]

i like to use frontpage more cuz it is simply to use and good. Dreawaver is not so easy and you need to study it longer. Also namo webeditor is good program.

[Dragonfly]

I have experienced using microsoft frontpage, macromedia dreamweaver and namo editor. In fact, namo editor is even better than frontpage.

Frontpage is where everyone usually begins after knowing a thing about html code and structure. Since frontpage is available with microsoft office its there automatically so it may be easier for anyone to just pick up and learn from it.

However, you will end up with more problems as your need increases and demands intensified. Table handling is also definitely a problem. Its not exactly What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) thingy for frontpage.

The advantage with Dreamweaver is that you can actually code any programs there. Including php, asp, ect. It has got many more functions and tables handling are so comfortable that you feel like playing more and more.

So, even though it costs your purse, at the end of the day its much more worth investing tool than the frontpage with dissatisfied results which is openly seen by dissatisfied site visitors too.

So, Dreamweaver will definitely win. For newbies their level may prompt them to praise frontpage which is quite understandable.

[brainiac ghost]

i would say dreamweaver is better but i still prefer kate as my editor and quanta although these are for linux, to produce fully standards complient code i suggest you learn html and go for notepad

[alicabektas]

dreamweawer is much better zhan frontpage

more options more samples easier to use and.....

[Lozbo]

I used frontpage like... let me see... almost 10 years ago (actually like 8) and i dont know if macromedia existed back then, but i sure didnt know it.

Front page seemed the right thing, for a teenager that was entering this "internet realm".

I would say:

"NOTHING IS ABSOLUTE" there are just opinions. And what i think is that extreme hardcore programmers would match a combination of hand-writting code and dreamweaver, and for novices, frontpage will do the trick.

Since then, i have not used frontpage again, but i guess it would look in the same line as microsoft office products, so many people would think that, as they have been using office software, it might be easier to start diving into this "internet era" and "home page building mania" with something that they are comfortable with, like a product they already know (at least the background).

I searched the source code for microsoft dot com and did not find a clue for where it has been coded, like a geneartor meta tag or something. The code seemed a little bit weird, but nothing compromising (not that i know though). For me, it could have been done in notepad.

But macromedia is for web, and microsoft offers a lot of things (operating system, office packages, pc gaming software, gaming hardware and games for x-box, some design software and i dont know how much things else). So keep that in mind and you would find a complex answer: I prefer both an average user would say, as it depends on the user itself what is his software of choice.

Thanks...

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[devillords]

Steve, on Jul 10 2005, 09:25 PM, said:

Dreamweaver MX 2004 is probably the best program I beleive ever made. It has such simple controls and if you know HTML and flasah you can design any web layout you want as long as you have a good imagination. And the unique layer sytem is just amazing. When I first doewq

Frontpage isa alsao a very good program but the fact it isa not truly flasah enabled like dreamweaver is, makes it extremly flawed.

well of course dreamweaver is much better than frontpage. Adobe is a competition with dreamweaver. At the moment Dreamweaver is still better.

[MaticooL]

Dreamweaver is better, it has more options and its easier to use!