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[trace-uk]

pagerank has been well and truly dropped by google's I've got a pr5 site and its not even in the listings for its keywords and the top 20 for those keywords are pr3-4 sites!

[SimonR]

I would have to say "content is king" when it comes to googles seo ranking algorithm, obv keywords, meta tags etc still help but without content your visitors wont come back time and time again. up2date content also helps, try adding rss feeds from other sites for instant updated content

[Dragonfly]

FreeUKsimcards.co.uk, on May 3 2006, 08:42 AM, said:

I would have to say "content is king" when it comes to googles seo ranking algorithm, obv keywords, meta tags etc still help but without content your visitors wont come back time and time again. up2date content also helps, try adding rss feeds from other sites for instant updated content

Very true. Content is the most important part in the search engines to find that pages and for others to keep coming back to this particular page. If we provide quality content people tend to spend more time there and google search results are being determined that way as well. If a visitor spend much time in that page from the search result, it means that page is useful and it will have a very good or high google pagerank in few weeks too. I have seen that one of the pages inside my website has a higher google pagerank than the homepage itself. This is proof to this.

Let's continue discussing this topic...

[trace-uk]

its not that msn and yahoo have a strikingly different algo than google, all the SEs pretty much look for the same things. but google is soo slow in adding new websites it's almost criminal! you can be listed at the top of the serps in yahoo and msn for a year before google even puts you in its serps!

[realthor]

Common, one year?!...I thought it was some weeks at most, but it all depends on how many links other important sites have to the site...that's how google sees yours. Unless u make a manual subscription.

[6yd.net]

Hi, here is all I know: (well... a brief, selected excerpt)

• A site needs to have history. Google likes a site that they can see has changed. You won't become no. one straight away!
  
• DO NOT DO ANYTHING RISQUE! You think it could be wrong, you had best stay away from it. Google Bombing is a great example.
  
• Changing content is good for search engine results. Get an RSS feed up on your site for instance.
  
• optimise for only 1 keyword, not many
  
• Put that keyword in your meta keywords tag ONLY ONCE
  
• Include the afore mentioned keyword in your meta description as much as possible (don't go overboard though, or google will think you are spamming them i.e. keyword, keyword, keyword is bad!!!!)
  
• Include the keyword as many times as possible in your main body. Obviouslly again, in context of the content, and don't go overboard.
  
• NO LINK FARMING WHATSOEVER
  
• Search engines don't like duplicated content. Do not just copy and paste articles off the internet for use on your site. SEs will lower the importance of your site because it is the same as another one, even if not graphically.
  
• Try to avoid using long, dynamic urls for scripts (eg: domain.com/script.php?s=adhhd&ssid=uausuud&this=that etc...) a good alternative would be to use the mod_rewrite rule for apache

Sorry, that is all I can remember at the moment

Tom

PS: Yahoo and MSN are out to build a diverse list of websites - Google are out to build an informative list with a more relevant search script than the other search engines. Their algos (don't even ask me to spell that word) are different to MSN and Yahoo, but are much more diverse. They also use Pagerank to help with their algos, which also helps with links. This dosen't mean MSN and Yahoo are bad, but then again, you definitely get better results on google.

[gameratheart]

6yd.net, on May 5 2006, 08:55 PM, said:

Hi, here is all I know: (well... a brief, selected excerpt)

• A site needs to have history. Google likes a site that they can see has changed. You won't become no. one straight away!
  
• Changing content is good for search engine results. Get an RSS feed up on your site for instance.

I've heard that Changing Content and RSS Feeds really help Search Engines. I don't really understand RSS Feeds myself, but it helps.

6yd.net, on May 5 2006, 08:55 PM, said:

• DO NOT DO ANYTHING RISQUE! You think it could be wrong, you had best stay away from it. Google Bombing is a great example.

Why people actually get away with Google Bombing is anyone's guess. But anyone who tries to abuse the system like that should be thrown in jail. lol

[trace-uk]

google does an update every 3 months! if your site hasn't been crawled sufficently by then then you're not going to be in the serps by the end of the update. so it can take a year.

[gaggu007]

Spectre, on Oct 2 2005, 08:53 PM, said:

There are no 'secrets' to getting good rankings in Google (or any other major search engine). Obviously, you can't just place a collection of keywords you would like to target in the meta tags and then have Google give you a number 1 ranking for those pages. People have tried nearly all the tricks in nearly all the books, and Google gets wise to 'blackhat' SEOers. The ultimate punishment is being dropped all together from Google's index - and it doesn't take a great deal for them to do so, especially if you aren't already well established. The only way to get decent rankings in any search engine that is worth having decent rankings in is by providing quality, optimized content, and being patient. If your site contains good content, then search engines will pick up on this, and your rankings will start to rise.

Having links pointing to your site is good for rankings, but not critical - regardless of what a lot of people seem to think (I am speaking from first-hand experience here). Search engines weigh links based on how important they consider the page that contains the link to your site - so a poorly ranked site that the engine sees as having low-quality content and not being of much use will not do anything to help your rankings (it has been said that they can even have a detremental effect), but a link from a highly ranked site that the engine considers to be of high importance will help to increase your rankings. They way they figure, if a good site is pointing to your site, then your site musn't be so bad either (although a single link from a decent site won't automatically grant you number 1 rankings).

Just to dispell some myths concerning SEO, some time ago, I set up a small web site on a domain name I wasn't using that related to Internet-based marketing and advertising. I ended up stopping work on the site, but didn't take it offline. There was not a single link pointing to it, and pretty much no one knew of its existance - the domain name didn't contain any special keywords, and I'd nevere really mentioned it to anyone. After about four months, I was checking the logs for that server (which hosts several other web sites) and noticed that I had been receiving quite a lot of hits for some pretty decent, competetive keywords - and sure enough, when I checked them in Google, Yahoo! and MSN, I had top-ten pages for all of the keywords and phrases. I was quite suprised by this, as I hadn't really put any time into the site and hadn't optimized the content a great deal. But it goes to show that well-written pages with keyword-rich (but not too many keywords) will get you good rankings, despite all other factors a lot of 'SEO freaks' tend to talk about.

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6yd.net, on May 6 2006, 01:25 AM, said:

Hi, here is all I know: (well... a brief, selected excerpt)

• A site needs to have history. Google likes a site that they can see has changed. You won't become no. one straight away!
  
• DO NOT DO ANYTHING RISQUE! You think it could be wrong, you had best stay away from it. Google Bombing is a great example.
  
• Changing content is good for search engine results. Get an RSS feed up on your site for instance.
  
• optimise for only 1 keyword, not many
  
• Put that keyword in your meta keywords tag ONLY ONCE
  
• Include the afore mentioned keyword in your meta description as much as possible (don't go overboard though, or google will think you are spamming them i.e. keyword, keyword, keyword is bad!!!!)
  
• Include the keyword as many times as possible in your main body. Obviouslly again, in context of the content, and don't go overboard.
  
• NO LINK FARMING WHATSOEVER
  
• Search engines don't like duplicated content. Do not just copy and paste articles off the internet for use on your site. SEs will lower the importance of your site because it is the same as another one, even if not graphically.
  
• Try to avoid using long, dynamic urls for scripts (eg: domain.com/script.php?s=adhhd&ssid=uausuud&this=that etc...) a good alternative would be to use the mod_rewrite rule for apache

Sorry, that is all I can remember at the moment

Tom

PS: Yahoo and MSN are out to build a diverse list of websites - Google are out to build an informative list with a more relevant search script than the other search engines. Their algos (don't even ask me to spell that word) are different to MSN and Yahoo, but are much more diverse. They also use Pagerank to help with their algos, which also helps with links. This dosen't mean MSN and Yahoo are bad, but then again, you definitely get better results on google.

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