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Is Google Cheating With Adsense?
Started by visitor, Dec 06 2005 04:11 PM
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#26
Posted 09 January 2008 - 09:47 PM
Adsence Account Disabled
Is Google Cheating With Adsense?
Today Adsence account was disabled for doing nothing against Adsence TOS, I followed each and every policy that are issued by Adsence, My account has 4500$, and I was shocked, I want to raise 100000$ campaign on Anti-Adsence and Anti-Google to all its advertisers if they don't give back my account. I will also file a law suite against them for cheating publishers. This is serious if you think this is right you can email me at anilrian@gmail.Com, I need your support to dismiss these type of frauds.
I have full data that my account was not a click fraud and all the traffic I get is 100% legal to Adsence policies, iam using tracker to find all these information.
Support me
Anil Dora
-Anil Dora
Is Google Cheating With Adsense?
Today Adsence account was disabled for doing nothing against Adsence TOS, I followed each and every policy that are issued by Adsence, My account has 4500$, and I was shocked, I want to raise 100000$ campaign on Anti-Adsence and Anti-Google to all its advertisers if they don't give back my account. I will also file a law suite against them for cheating publishers. This is serious if you think this is right you can email me at anilrian@gmail.Com, I need your support to dismiss these type of frauds.
I have full data that my account was not a click fraud and all the traffic I get is 100% legal to Adsence policies, iam using tracker to find all these information.
Support me
Anil Dora
-Anil Dora
#27
Posted 11 January 2008 - 08:28 AM
First off, I have made money with adsense for years.
Your fist post says your friend got kicked out for:
"... related to an account previously disabled for invalid click activity"
This can actually be a number of things.
1. Another person or the same person had an account and violated the terms and the account was disabled
2. That same person signed up again and the adsense guys matched it.
3. Another person signed up and used matcing creditials (same phyisical address, same IP's, same domain names, etc)
Those are the most common.
Adsense is a good additional source of income. You can make from a few hundred to
several thousand depending on how you conduct your business.
One of the main problems is that when someone starts if they only get, for example, 10 impressions and happen to have 6 or 7 clicks, then this shows a 70% CTR and this alerts the spiders. Next, thing you know is you get flagged and they suspend your account until they do a check.
More often than not that person gets kicked out.
Maybe they did nothing wrong but adsense is not interested.
On the other hand if you get thousands or tens of thousand of impression per day it is a different ball game.
... and some times this still doesn't help
Your fist post says your friend got kicked out for:
"... related to an account previously disabled for invalid click activity"
This can actually be a number of things.
1. Another person or the same person had an account and violated the terms and the account was disabled
2. That same person signed up again and the adsense guys matched it.
3. Another person signed up and used matcing creditials (same phyisical address, same IP's, same domain names, etc)
Those are the most common.
Adsense is a good additional source of income. You can make from a few hundred to
several thousand depending on how you conduct your business.
One of the main problems is that when someone starts if they only get, for example, 10 impressions and happen to have 6 or 7 clicks, then this shows a 70% CTR and this alerts the spiders. Next, thing you know is you get flagged and they suspend your account until they do a check.
More often than not that person gets kicked out.
Maybe they did nothing wrong but adsense is not interested.
On the other hand if you get thousands or tens of thousand of impression per day it is a different ball game.
... and some times this still doesn't help
#28
Posted 11 January 2008 - 10:05 AM
Bizact, on Jan 11 2008, 04:28 PM, said:
Your fist post says your friend got kicked out for:
"... related to an account previously disabled for invalid click activity"
This can actually be a number of things.
1. Another person or the same person had an account and violated the terms and the account was disabled
2. That same person signed up again and the adsense guys matched it.
3. Another person signed up and used matching credentials (same physical address, same IP's, same domain names, etc)
"... related to an account previously disabled for invalid click activity"
This can actually be a number of things.
1. Another person or the same person had an account and violated the terms and the account was disabled
2. That same person signed up again and the adsense guys matched it.
3. Another person signed up and used matching credentials (same physical address, same IP's, same domain names, etc)
Frankly, I don't think this is the major issue. True, Google could have detected that there is, indeed, something wrong, something fishy with a certain person's subscription. However, what is wrong is that they have not informed the subscriber of it outright. Instead, the poor guy had spent effort to put it on his site and got excited by revenue-increasing clicks (genuine or not) only to find out that those clicks were not to be cashed in anyway.
If there is something wrong, wouldn't the ethical thing to do be to inform the user within days of the discovery of the anomaly that there is something wrong? They shouldn't let a person's earnings reach up to 99, only to forfeit his subscription to adsense. After all, not all of those clicks could have been faked; some might have been real clicks, which generated money, money Google milked of its unwitting subscribers before telling them off.
I dunno about you guys but, if it's anything, Google will only be loyal to you if you are an asset to them. Got a page that rakes in the hits? They'd probably overlook a thing or two for you. Only starting up on Adsense with a page that generates one or three clicks per month? Not a chance
#29
Posted 11 January 2008 - 06:06 PM
Yes I have heared of incidence involving google and adsens and many people have complained about it but as you see many people are still using it today either to advertise and to gain money from advertisement. I am using it also to display their ads on my site however I haven't met conditionts to get payment. I hope when that time comes that I will not have the same problem.
The biggest problem with paying out, and with terminating google adsens accounts is that they are terminated in many cases when payment ought to be made. So you see this is huge problem but I think that people in google are keeping this to miinimum because of simple effect that they wouldn't gain so much profit of constantly terminating peoples account eventhough they might take tehir payment.
And still there might be connection to the incident and that people might work osme ways to go and click on their site to earn more profit especially if you are able to use some other ip then they would have hard time to trak you down and if you woudl delete all cash and cookies from youra ccounr.
The biggest problem with paying out, and with terminating google adsens accounts is that they are terminated in many cases when payment ought to be made. So you see this is huge problem but I think that people in google are keeping this to miinimum because of simple effect that they wouldn't gain so much profit of constantly terminating peoples account eventhough they might take tehir payment.
And still there might be connection to the incident and that people might work osme ways to go and click on their site to earn more profit especially if you are able to use some other ip then they would have hard time to trak you down and if you woudl delete all cash and cookies from youra ccounr.
#30
Posted 12 January 2008 - 01:31 PM
OpaQue, on Dec 7 2005, 07:20 AM, said:
You are just a poor person compared to Google and Poor people have always been crushed by the rich guys. Thats what is exactly happening here.
#31
Posted 12 January 2008 - 01:41 PM
Yes google is extremly rich company but it is not so large corporation like microsoft and there are still not so many buerocatical isses. So the google might still be good however as we all know money changes people and that is the main reason why google is falling down in the eyes of us all it is changing in accordance with money.
#32
Posted 12 January 2008 - 02:13 PM
This got me a bit scared if I am ever going to use Adsense, or PayPal. (I am using PayPal, but haven't got any money on it.) How annoying would it be if you earned a lot of money, and then they would not give it to you? I think it is wrong of them to terminate peoples accounts. Of course I understand them because lots of people are cheating with Adsense. But the Adsense-people should care a bit more about individual cases, instead of just closing the account.
#34
Posted 18 January 2008 - 01:26 AM
So far I've never had problems with Google Adsense... a couple times, I was scared that they would say there was click fraud, because I ended up with many many more clicks than normal, so I emailed them about it to let them know... but I'm not sure if that was any good or not, because I never got a response back. But seeing as it's a huge company, I wasn't really expecting anyone to write back - especially not something which hadn't been an automated message. But it would put me much more at ease if I'd actually received something to tell me that things were okay. Judging by the way my account didn't get suspended, I'm guessing it must have been alright.
Anyway... I've so far been paid with them three times, so they seem good to me. But I'm always worried when my earnings hit around the $100 dollar mark, because I hear the stories about how Google tends to wait until you've earned enough for your next payment to close down people's accounts. But since I've never done anything against the terms, I think I should be okay.
Luckily, Adsense isn't the only advertiser out there. I used to think that if they kicked you out of the program, then you'd be in serious trouble, but really, since so many people have had it happen, I think that life goes on with other advertisers too, and even if they aren't as good as Google Adsense right now, they should get better with time as more and more people are looking for alternatives.
Anyway... I've so far been paid with them three times, so they seem good to me. But I'm always worried when my earnings hit around the $100 dollar mark, because I hear the stories about how Google tends to wait until you've earned enough for your next payment to close down people's accounts. But since I've never done anything against the terms, I think I should be okay.
Luckily, Adsense isn't the only advertiser out there. I used to think that if they kicked you out of the program, then you'd be in serious trouble, but really, since so many people have had it happen, I think that life goes on with other advertisers too, and even if they aren't as good as Google Adsense right now, they should get better with time as more and more people are looking for alternatives.
#35
Posted 09 February 2008 - 04:56 AM
i see adsense as gambling, and i suggest that you guys see it like that too. if you got some good money with adsense, cash it out and later come in for a new round. if you think about it, it is really hard (if not impossible) to tell whether the clicks are legitimate or not. just kind of like derickkoo said, if a guest clicks an adsense link of yours a couple of times within 5 minutes, google will get the same click information a couple of times and that will be hard to tell if those were illegal clicks or not... if google is too nice and lets those possibly legal but also possibly illegal clicks pass, multiply that times all the people contracting adsense, then think what if most of those unclear clicks are illegal then its a biiig loss for google. so i believe its understandable that they prefer to be on the safe side and mark as fraud the unclear clicks.
adsense... just like a stock, if it goes up and up and you want money on your hand... take it out while you still own it and its high
/jogarriot
adsense... just like a stock, if it goes up and up and you want money on your hand... take it out while you still own it and its high
/jogarriot
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