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[tdktank59]

http://www.ifilm.com...mdetail/2682962

click on this link to watch the video!

dont know if the code will work if not search Dancing Robots on www.ifilm.com its the first link on the page

thats pretty cool look at the movements they are flush lol no jolting or anything looks like human movements lol pretty sweet stuff

Notice from mayank:

Fixed the wrong code..please dont try to embed flash...it is not possible in this forum

Edited by mayank, 05 January 2006 - 01:54 PM.

[mayank]

well it seems to me that you are trying to embed flash file over here...well that is not possible in this board...secondly you should have reported this by using the report button..anyways..fixed it!

[atomicnacho]

Pretty sweet video. The movements of the robots is increadibly fluid, and not jerky like I expected to see. Woulda liked to see them do the Hustle or the Macarena or something though.

[tdktank59]

atomicnacho, on Jan 5 2006, 11:41 AM, said:

Pretty sweet video.  The movements of the robots is increadibly fluid, and not jerky like I expected to see.  Woulda liked to see them do the Hustle or the Macarena or something though.

Yeah lol

that would be sweet but heh this was over in japan so what do you suspect?

btw mayank im sorry about not reporting i didnt notice that button there.
I also closed the browser after i posted i didnt look at if it worked sry about that.

[theplok]

Very interesting video. The robots dance very fluid. Also, due to being robots, they are all perfectly in synce with one another.

I do have one thing I'm wondering about this though. Do you think that they dance to the music with listening censors and dance corresponding to that? Or do they pre-program a dance and then have them act it out at a certain time? Or maybe they just pre-program a dance and then they act them out when they first hear the music...

[Cerebral Stasis]

It's not what it seems. The robots obviously knew what was coming before the music even started. They could have responded to a voice command, a motion command, or even a remote/bluetooth command, but the sequence is obviously pre-coded. I have seen other movies of these robots appearing to hold an intelligent conversation with some Japanese children (in Japanese, of course - subtitles were provided), complete with realistic voices (not the monotone Stephen Hawking-voicebox-like stuff). The conversation either had to be pre-programmed, or was being supplied on the fly via some kind of remote. There is no way that robotics could go from being almost nonexistant of artificial intelligence, to having TOY robots that can dance, speak, and do most anything else a child could do on it's own. The most advanced robotics labs still haven't got further than a robotic head that can communicate and, at least partially, think on it's own (more specifically, it plays out certain needs and drives that it has), and just that robotic head needs a few computers to work - let alone having all the bodily functions, as well as the processing and such, all cramped inside the space of a little toy robot. Other "robots" are just animatronic (meaning they look and act like they are intelligent, but they are just very detailed sculptures with preprogrammed movements) and are mostly made for movie special effects, as is the case with the Phillip K. *BLEEP* Ressurected Project.

When one does not understand how something works, one tends to expect a complicated and overly-superior function than that which it really has.

By the way, if you are interested in reading more about android head projects, check out this website.

Notice from jlhaslip:

Edit to include the last line as requested

Edited by jlhaslip, 06 January 2006 - 05:07 PM.

[tdktank59]

lol dude its sony... they made the psp and *BLEEP*... look at how big ipods are now they are fing skinny... its scary... next thing we know we will have an inplant ipod that holds 300 gigs thats the size of a atom...

its called science it just happens that japan does not spend its money on there army as much as we do so they have more to go towards buissnesses and so on better funds = better inventions... it could also be a learning robot... it has the capacity to listen and learn from it... but heh w/e i dont know much about this ill post later when i have more time and after i reserach this topic a bit more than i did before

[iwuvcookies]

Yay we can get boogie on down with a robot. lol. I've seen this on tv before. I thought it was pretty cool. But they played Japanese music. I thought they would so some kind of techno robot type music. Dissappointed but i still think they're cool.

I know theres a robot that you can put ipod in and they dance and pump music to it. Its a dog type robot with blinking colored lights. oh well. i wonder what else can they do besides dance?

[wassie]

hehe, this is exually kinda funny, but is it really new technology?
cause this is kinda easy to make right?

[atomicnacho]

So Beck has hired these little guys for his latest video for Hell Yes. They are called QRIO and sony is producing them as toys to relase in 4 years or someithng. You can check iout the video at Beck.com, just go to the videos section.

Sony also has an article about it Here
They do a very similar dance routine, but it didn't look like the same routine to me.

As for them not being new technology, I really think that they are quite an advancement from any biped robot that I have seen. Both in terms of their ablilty to move smoothly and walk, and also their ability to accurately imitate human movements and dance. And I'm sure that since there are only 4 in the world that they were not easy to make.

[Cerebral Stasis]

tdktank59 said:

lol dude its sony... they made the psp and *BLEEP*

So? The PSP is nice, but it's hardly a breakthrough in technology.

tdktank59 said:

look at how big ipods are now they are fing skinny

iPods are by Apple - not Sony.

tdktank59 said:

its scary... next thing we know we will have an inplant ipod that holds 300 gigs thats the size of a atom...

Forgive me for being frank, but that's stupid. You obviously don't understand much about physics. There will never be devices that small. There are no material properties in particles smaller than a molecule. Besides, it takes matter to store the energy necessary to retain information, and noone would be able to use anything that small. I know you were overstating it, but you did so to the point that you look very, very foolish.

tdktank59 said:

its called science it just happens that japan does not spend its money on there army as much as we do so they have more to go towards buissnesses and so on better funds = better inventions

Uh, no. The government funds the army in the United States - not businesses. Businesses are funded by the people, who are looking to make a profit, thus is the reason that useful things are invented.

tdktank59 said:

it could also be a learning robot... it has the capacity to listen and learn from it...

That's my whole point. There wouldn't be that many robotics breakthroughs in one device. Especially not one cheap enough to sell for a profit. Each major feature (true artificial intelligence, the ability to learn, the ability to really dance, the ability to really speak) would be invented at different times, and each would get huge media coverage. Instead, the coverage is just about one TOY that combines all the features into one. Thus, the features can't be all they appear to be.

tdktank59 said:

but heh w/e i dont know much about this

That is apparent.

tdktank59 said:

after i reserach this topic a bit more than i did before

It's not too hard to beat no research.

atomicnacho said:

As for them not being new technology, I really think that they are quite an advancement from any biped robot that I have seen. Both in terms of their ablilty to move smoothly and walk, and also their ability to accurately imitate human movements and dance. And I'm sure that since there are only 4 in the world that they were not easy to make.

Yes, they are the first robot that is able to stand on one leg.

But who says that there are only 4 in the world? Just because only four were dancing at the press conference doesn't mean that they are all that exist. If Japan plans to sell these things as toys, they have got to be cheap enough that they can afford to make more than just two.

[Eikon]

Incredibly fluid motions. This my friends, is the begining of the end. The robots are going to take over!!

[Cerebral Stasis]

Yeah, except they are not intelligent, they don't have weapons (and can't hold any), and have no reason to take over the world. There will be enough people who would see robots, assuming they wanted to take over, as equals and treat them as so that not all robots would rebel, feeling they were being enslaved.

Besides, all it takes is an EMP bomb to get rid of them.

[atomicnacho]

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But who says that there are only 4 in the world? Just because only four were dancing at the press conference doesn't mean that they are all that exist. If Japan plans to sell these things as toys, they have got to be cheap enough that they can afford to make more than just two.

I thought that the MTV article said that they are the only 4 of their kind. As I read it again it doesn't say expressly that they are the only 4, it just says

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worlds only dream robots.

[xebattreo]

Yeah, except they are not intelligent, they don't have weapons (and can't hold any),

[atomicnacho]

Well it looks like the Qrio robots just got the Axe from Sony already. So now the four in the Beck video will be the only ones. Slashdothas some more info about it, but apparently Sony has been cost cutting and cancelled the Qrio, and Aibo (Sony's robot dog).

It's too bad would have been cool to see how they turned out as a toy.

[Cerebral Stasis]

The original article can be found here.

I'm really not surprised that it's being cut. Although Aibo and Qrio look cool, they are very expensive (over a thousand dollars for Aibo, and I'm sure Qrio would be around 3-5 thousand at least), so not very many people can, or care to, own one. even that such a steep price, Sony was probably selling at a loss already (as is the common practice of Japanese businesses), and they probably realized that they would never own a large enough market to make the loss worthwhile.

[Artanis[sK]]

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QUOTE(tdktank59)
lol dude its sony... they made the psp and *BLEEP*

So? The PSP is nice, but it's hardly a breakthrough in technology.
QUOTE(tdktank59)
look at how big ipods are now they are fing skinny

iPods are by Apple - not Sony.
QUOTE(tdktank59)
its scary... next thing we know we will have an inplant ipod that holds 300 gigs thats the size of a atom...

Forgive me for being frank, but that's stupid. You obviously don't understand much about physics. There will never be devices that small. There are no material properties in particles smaller than a molecule. Besides, it takes matter to store the energy necessary to retain information, and noone would be able to use anything that small. I know you were overstating it, but you did so to the point that you look very, very foolish.
QUOTE(tdktank59)
its called science it just happens that japan does not spend its money on there army as much as we do so they have more to go towards buissnesses and so on better funds = better inventions

Uh, no. The government funds the army in the United States - not businesses. Businesses are funded by the people, who are looking to make a profit, thus is the reason that useful things are invented.
QUOTE(tdktank59)
it could also be a learning robot... it has the capacity to listen and learn from it...

That's my whole point. There wouldn't be that many robotics breakthroughs in one device. Especially not one cheap enough to sell for a profit. Each major feature (true artificial intelligence, the ability to learn, the ability to really dance, the ability to really speak) would be invented at different times, and each would get huge media coverage. Instead, the coverage is just about one TOY that combines all the features into one. Thus, the features can't be all they appear to be.
QUOTE(tdktank59)
but heh w/e i dont know much about this

That is apparent.
QUOTE(tdktank59)
after i reserach this topic a bit more than i did before

It's not too hard to beat no research.
QUOTE(atomicnacho)
As for them not being new technology, I really think that they are quite an advancement from any biped robot that I have seen. Both in terms of their ablilty to move smoothly and walk, and also their ability to accurately imitate human movements and dance. And I'm sure that since there are only 4 in the world that they were not easy to make.

Yes, they are the first robot that is able to stand on one leg.

But who says that there are only 4 in the world? Just because only four were dancing at the press conference doesn't mean that they are all that exist. If Japan plans to sell these things as toys, they have got to be cheap enough that they can afford to make more than just two.

Woot the Azn's have done it again
Haha kinda got pwned a bit there... Anyway cool these rbots do have a fluid movement

[xavierrd]

By these days, it's not only the movement. Also the languaje skills and sensors are very advanced. Don't you think? By seeing those things now I'm sure it's a matter of time for us to see robots like those in the movies, and that opens all kind of possibilities.

By now, it's an expensive, yet amazing toy or mate I'd like one!

[spy_charly]

haha well i think these guys (the robots) are sort of old, i mean they have a lot of time out there, i think i saw it by the beggining of the 2005, i also heard about the honda robot, one very competitive as well.

But well it would be great to heard from you guys if you have made a robot...

[xavierrd]

Just one that follows a black line on a white surface I think the simplest of all, yet I enjoyed making it, from CDROMs and wrecked toys, and trying to make it run faster. By the way, I don't like lego stuff, metal and screws hold a lot more rude duty, jajajaja. At least I had more fun cutting and designing.

[Cerebral Stasis]

Just a few comments here.

When talking about the Honda robot, I assume you mean ASIMO, which was built back in 2000. While it has many breakthroughs in walking and interaction technology, it is a far cry from being any C-3PO. Furthermore, there are many more accurate and believeable robots (via animatronics) that are used in movies, such as Jurassic Park. Besides, the way the digital effects industry is going, it will soon be much cheaper to use 3D effects made in a computer than build real-life animatronic characters to use.

As for the QRIO robots being fluid in motion and quick to move, it may appear that way, but robots using motors will always have a slow response time. However, there have been experiments with robotic muscles that can react almost as fast as human muscles, and are about as strong. Furthermore, there have been theories concerning a new kind of artificial muscle that could react 1,000 times faster than an organic muscle, and could be much stronger, as well.

[Kun]

Cool robots! But they're so unusefull... and very very expensive. I've heared one man bought 34(!!!) dogs! He is really creazy o_O

[FLaKes]

Awesome!!! I had been waiting a long time too see more frome this little robots, ever since some person posted it here a couple of months ago. Besides, I had heard this song on the radio a few weeks ago but didnt catch the name or the artist (they mustve said it at the beginning, and I didnt listen to it from the beginning). So this thread kind of killed 2 birds with one shot for me. Thanks!

[Jothsha]

I couldnt find the video. please provide the link.