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[gameratheart]

Many members ask about the matter of hosting credits. Trap17 staff have explained hosting credits clearly on the site, but if you're not paying attention, have any questions, or need more, here are some points that will answer your questions.

Due to a few user comments, I have had to add a few more points, and edited some previous points to be a bit more clearer. This is in addition to the additions mods have made to the posts, which I greatly thank you for.

1. READ THE FORUMS BEFORE YOU POST A CREDIT QUESTION!!! How many times have the Admins of Trap17 explained hosting credits? And yet, many of you STILL ask questions!

Trap17 has an FAQ for Hosting Credits: http://www.trap17.com/forums/index.php?sho...ost&p=42598

2. Contrary to popular belief, you CAN transfer hosting credits to one another, if you are HOSTED. If you wish to do this, go to http://trap17.com/pr...fer_credits.htm and tell us your Username, Password, the Username of who the credits should go to, and the amount of credits. All transfers will fail, however, if you are not left with more than 30 credits afterwards.

Note: You CANNOT reverse a credit trade, and there is a commison charge. Also, hosting credits ONLY transfers between hosted members, and you CANNOT transfer hosting credits from Trap17 to AstaHost (or vice versa). No exceptions to these rules will ever be made.

3. DO NOT ask members to give you credits! This will simply annoy most people. Credits should only be given to members who are loyal, kind and helpful, and it is the choice of any member to give you credits. If you REALLY need more, do a few good posts! Or maybe participate in a competition, there are loads around! Just don't resort to begging, it won't be good for ya.

4. When you are HOSTED and have more than 30 Credits, you can place them into the BANK. You do this in the same way as explained in step 2, with the person you are sending the question to being BANK (all capitals). The bank will keep the credits so you can award them to people without having to tax them. There is a 3% commision charge on doing this, however.

5. And NO, the bank is NOT a way to gain more credits! It simply acts a storage place for credits that you intend to give to someone else as a prize or reward.

6. If you REALLY, REALLY don't think you can keep up the credits needed to keep your website up, then buy some! A while ago, Trap17 introduced a system to allow you to buy hosting time, at $10 (about £5.12 GBP, or €7.58 Euros, correct at time of print) for 6 months, up to two years. This is not an excuse to stay inactive, however!

Thanks for reading this. I just want to help, and I hope I have not upset anyone.

Edited by NDPA, 29 November 2006 - 07:27 AM.

[Kubi]

Thanks for pointing this out. explaining credits over and over does get quite annoying.

I'm ganna pin this for a while.

[Plenoptic]

Ya thanks for posting that I will just have people sent here when they want to learn about credits because they really don't read anything until they figure out they can't get by without reading it.

[OCAC]

Plenoptic, on Jan 16 2006, 11:25 PM, said:

Ya thanks for posting that I will just have people sent here when they want to learn about credits because they really don't read anything until they figure out they can't get by without reading it.

Thanks to explaining this to me as well. I probably belong to the group to which all the IT helper shout: RTFM.

Sigh.

Thanks again for putting the manual up again. (-:

[elevenmil]

The credit system and posting stuff here can be confusing to new members at times but for the most part I don't understand how a member can be confused. Heck on the index page it pretty much tells members what they need to do in order to remain hosted, although if they aren't hosted they need to look around for an info thread...

When I came around ages ago I picked things up automatically and didn't need much help. All it takes is a little searching and you'll find everything you need to look for...sometimes people are just so lazy...

I've never done a credit transfer nor would I ever want to. People should earn their own credits and to give them away is wrong in my view. If you post and post and post then you've earned the right to be inactive over the given span, but if credits have been transferred to a member I don't feel its right for them to be able to be inactive...unless they paid for their credits. When I feel I don't have the time to be around anymore I'll just have to call it quits (although I doubt that'll ever happen) but if you have to scrap for credits by use of transfer then I don't believe you've earned the right to be/remain hosted...

Just my thoughts, but good topic anyway...

[shigajet]

The thing is that it's difficult to tell whether new members have read the rules thoroughly. As a result, we get a flood of questions here regarding that issue. The hosting credit system is pretty straight-forward, but at the beginning there may be some unexpected problems that a user has run into. (i.e. This happened, so what should I do next?)

[hellRAISER666]

Good post. Explains all the main things about credits. I don't think most people will even bother to read the forum rules, because they are pretty long. And most poeple would be lazy and not ready everything. So, I guess that's why some come to this forum and do dumb things.

[gameratheart]

I am glad you liked this post. I decided to post it when I got a PM begging for Hosting Credits, and I instantly knew it was gonna become a Pinned Topic. Seems I was right

And while I'm on the matter of begging for Hosting Credits... I agree with elevenmil. I do not believe in giving credits, because after all, aren't we all here to EARN hosting???

[UltimateStar]

I know even the Credit system is announced and posted everywhere.. many people seems to be unaware about it..

[gameratheart]

UltimateStar, on Feb 11 2006, 12:51 AM, said:

I know even the Credit system is announced and posted everywhere.. many people seems to be unaware about it..

I know what you mean, UltimateStar. It's like people don't even notice the Credit System at all! In fact, just a few days ago, someone applied for hosting with only nine credits!

Also, as I said on another thread:

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I recently got PMs saying that people don't understand the whole idea of the hosting credits system. But what's not to understand? You post a little, you help people out, you get a credit or two. And each credit is an extra day of hosting. Simple.

I start to wonder, do people nowadays actually read ANYTHING? It seems that way. That or people are just ignorant...

I have just one thing to say to these people: RTFM! (And if you don't know what RTFM means, go check a dictionary!)

Edited by NDPA, 06 September 2006 - 04:51 AM.

[abu]

I've Question bout the hosting credt. now I've been hosted with 20Mb space type hosting. and if I want to upgrade my hosting, to became default hosting (50 mb hosting), how many cedits I should collect? is it 30 credits, or 20 credits (because we already have 10 credit before) tahnkyou for Your Answer

[Albus Dumbledore]

it would be an additional 30 credis to go to the second package of 50mb.....

[Sprnknwn]

Well explained NDPA. Only a question... are you going to give me the credits you have earned for such a big post? I´m only joking, of course, hehe (but if you will... ).

In fact I didn´t know that someone can give credits to another one but it´s a good idea. This way I suppose that you can maintain somedbody else´s hosting while he is on holiday and when they get back he can do the same for you.

RTFM!, the new Trap17 slogan

[Florisjuh]

Nice article for the newby users on Trap17, seems like a website like trap17 has a lot of those lol

[BooZker]

I really wish you could transfer credits from Trap 17 to Astahost. Oh well... maybe in the future. I think this would be handy though.

[ProtoMan]

abu, on Aug 3 2006, 06:48 AM, said:

I've Question bout the hosting credt. now I've been hosted with 20Mb space type hosting. and if I want to upgrade my hosting, to became default hosting (50 mb hosting), how many cedits I should collect? is it 30 credits, or 20 credits (because we already have 10 credit before) tahnkyou for Your Answer

To my knowledge , you have to collect 30 Credits in order to get the second package. And I think it is true , because if you was more patient before then you have to get only 30 Credits but not , you want to be hosted right away so that 30 are good and it is fair for another members

[jlhaslip]

I found out the hard way that the upgrade cost the same as a fresh start, so if you want to eventually end up with the 150Meg package, save your credits until you have 30 - 35 then apply.

[gameratheart]

I'd like to thank the mods for dealing with some extra points that have been popping up. I have also been reciving a lot of user input recently, and so have modified the original post to reflect some more commonly asked-about points.

[FLaKes]

Cool, all this time here and I just found out that there is a bank and that you can award people with credits. Thats awesome, it would be cool if we all award people who help us out with problems of any kind. Kind of like reputation or something.

[jlhaslip]

They are your points to use as you see fit. Couple of points about Transfer of Credits, though:
1. Only allowed between Hosted members.
2. You must have a minimum of 30 Credits remaining in your account AFTER the transfer or the transfer fails to go through.
3. There is a small percentage fee for transfers (3%)

Other than that, feel free to award credits to whomever you wish to thank for answering your questions or helping you out.

[hippiman]

The other day, I had like 5 credits, and now I have negative 5! I'm pretty sure it hasn't been 10 days since my last post. Does anyone know why it would do that?

[BuffaloHelp]

It's been covered numerous times in our forum. Please refer to Trap17 Readme for clarification.

Either you have replied to a spam post or your posts were deemed discreditable. I have been urging and warning members not to reply to post/topic that is spam to our forum. When the spam topic is purged it is you, who replied, will suffer. That's why the board features REPORT instead of replying to the thread--"you're spamming."

This is the last time a notification will be made by administrators of this forum: Do not indulge, cater or encourage spam topics. This includes making a reply to a spam post, trying to amplify what obviously is a spam topic with your own interest (i.e. "I don't know what you mean but could you clarify your statement? I mean I know a lot about the subject you're having difficulties but your post made no sense when I read it. Please reply with additional info" <-- this is an example of empty contribution) Use the REPORT and let a moderator deal with the spam post.

Do not contact any moderator and proclaim that you did not know regarding spam post handling. You are falsifying if you say so since you digitally signed in the application form that you have read and understood our forum rules. It is your job as a member of Trap17 forum to know and be updated with the latest regulations/changes of the board.

Finally, if you feel that your hosting credits ARE, in fact, having a discrepancy please document your regression by doing a screen capture and please let me know. Capture your hosting credit screen daily about the same time and forward them to my PM.

Thank you.

[stevethedog]

I think that the whole posting credits thing is a good idea. I try to make sure I get one or two extra days in each working day to keep me ticking over as I'm not often on the computer over the weekend. I do worry for when I have holidays but I suppose devoting an hour of my time to making posts is worth it. There is just that wee feeling that because you HAVE to do it it feels like work and therefore the forums aren't quite as enjoyable.

I'm a member of a couple of different forums and the reason I can't quite get into this one I think is down to the sheer amount of different forums and sub forums that there are. It's all a little overwhelming.

I'm enjoying it though and happy to be a member of trap17.

[lilemi]

Thanks for this. I didnt know you could transfer or about the whole bank thing... Glad this was stickied.... then I cant really lose track of it

[Sprnknwn]

I've just seen this post right now (i've been on holidays ). It has been explained lot of times but looks like everything explained together is the best way to avoid infinite questions about it. By the way I didn't know about the bank either