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Google Web Accelerator
Started by sharpz, Mar 08 2006 03:42 AM
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#1
Posted 08 March 2006 - 03:42 AM
I was searching from google a couple hours ago, and i noticed a link on the bottom that said 'New: Google Web Accelerator (Beta)". I was instantly curious, and here's what i found: http://webaccelerato...om/support.html .
It looks like a proxy that automatically crawls through pages and downloads things you will encounter next, speeding up the browsing process. It even has a monitor of how much time you saved. Im installing it as im typing this, and i will update on how it is.
It looks like a proxy that automatically crawls through pages and downloads things you will encounter next, speeding up the browsing process. It even has a monitor of how much time you saved. Im installing it as im typing this, and i will update on how it is.
#3
Posted 08 March 2006 - 04:16 AM
apparently this software was an absolute waste of my hardisk as it did not increase my speed by a nanobyte but instead made my experiance on the internet slower.
I do not exactly know why it might be only my computer or it might be meant for only dial up or slow speed internet users, but even so it is similar to the experiance I had with google desktop, which guzzles your ram.
but if anyone else has different opinions and experiance I am not disagreeing with them I am just stating my own experiance.
I do not exactly know why it might be only my computer or it might be meant for only dial up or slow speed internet users, but even so it is similar to the experiance I had with google desktop, which guzzles your ram.
but if anyone else has different opinions and experiance I am not disagreeing with them I am just stating my own experiance.
#4
Posted 08 March 2006 - 04:41 AM
Sam2698, agree'd...i downloaded it and it made it slower lol, unless you are really desperate in trying to speed up your internet, i would suggest trying it but it will more than likely not work...or atleast it didn't for me..and that is two people....maybe you need to do it in Internet Explore...i did it in firefox...
#7
Posted 08 March 2006 - 01:17 PM
I have heard about this before. I think it is particular useful to countries with strict censorships (censorship is wrong, no matter political or pornographic). I also have friends with connections fast locally but get unbearably slow overseas. Web-accelerator is best for them. As far as I am concerned, I have quite a decent connection, so I have not considered using it. One of its problems is that you often get logged in forums or other places in others’ credentials, probably something wrong with the cookies and thing. And if there is a robot.txt at the site, some of the directories may become inaccessible by the accelerator.
#8
Posted 08 March 2006 - 01:43 PM
Google Web Acclerator is there for years.
I wonder what it is up for. This is the only thing I really disliked among all that Google provides.
It is just worthless and no use. It didnt even increase my speeds by a single percent.
Hope Google will rectify this and will provide something which will be of more useful.
I wonder what it is up for. This is the only thing I really disliked among all that Google provides.
It is just worthless and no use. It didnt even increase my speeds by a single percent.
Hope Google will rectify this and will provide something which will be of more useful.
#9
Posted 08 March 2006 - 03:13 PM
Well it is web Acctelerator, it cannot just create you a fast connection, it can only make it "better"
And if you think that it slow down the connection reasons maybe its becouse made for "slower" connection
or it is made for dialup...
But why would someone especialy Google gave some product that just vaste your hard disk space nad ram memory...
Im not realy into those web Accelerators but they probobly dont work for everyone.
btw its still in beta... google is whole in beta ( except search ;P)
Google beta
And if you think that it slow down the connection reasons maybe its becouse made for "slower" connection
But why would someone especialy Google gave some product that just vaste your hard disk space nad ram memory...
Im not realy into those web Accelerators but they probobly dont work for everyone.
btw its still in beta... google is whole in beta ( except search ;P)
Google beta
#10
Posted 08 March 2006 - 11:39 PM
From what I have heard there are quite a few security problem with this tool such as people being logged into others accounts when they view it with the accelerator. I used it for a while but I didn't notice any difference between the connection speeds so I just uninstalled it.
#11
Posted 09 March 2006 - 01:03 AM
I would like to try it but if it downloads things you COULD encounter next then it will go through all of the links on a page and try to have it ready for when you go there. That means it is saving all of these cookies or whatever which could slow things down because there could be hundreds of links on a page. I am not sure if that is the problem but that is my guess. My internet goes just fine on it's own I don't think I really need to make it go faster.
#13
Posted 10 March 2006 - 11:27 PM
A bit about that used to be at iMDB:
http://www.imdb.com/irony
A quick way to slow things down
oxymoron n. Web-accelerators
Rob Hartill. Internet Movie Database. Apr 1998
Surfing the internet you sometimes may be forgiven for thinking that you've wandered off onto some mud infested cattle trail, things go that slow. As you wander the net you may not see anyone else but you're sharing congested highways with millions of other people from every corner of the world. The key thing to remember here is that you're sharing resources... limitted resources.
Sooner or later, when there are enough people using the same resources they will inevitably become saturated. Once saturated, everyone ends up waiting their turn to use the scarce resource and as web surfers we observe this saturation in the form of delays reaching and downloading web pages.
The Internet is prone to slowdowns caused by bottlenecks on key network routes. However, for web surfers this is not the only cause of delays. In this age of instant information the slightest delay is sometimes noticeable. We can become impatient with a 30 second download delay from a web server even though it might be saving us a 3 hour trip to the mall or library. That 30s delay may well be caused by the sheer complexity of creating the page requested. Maybe you've asked for a database to be searched or perhaps the server you're talking to is very popular and is overworked. Delays are almost inevitable.
Strangely, some argue that delays are for other people, and that if you use their products you can reap the benefit of state of the art technology that's able to side-step delays. We're talking web-accelerators. Since there's some variations in what some vendors consider to be web-accelerators we need to define them for the context of this article. Here we consider web-accelerators to be the web browsers and web-browser plugins which use a technique called prefetching to download web pages before they are needed.
If we were to believe the marketing hype of the web-accelerators creators and vendors then we'd be looking at the Net equivalent of the 'science' of alchemy. They'd have us believe that the web is only slow because we're not using it quickly enough. Let's explain.
Web-accelerators use prefetching. Basically that means that when you visit a web site and download a page, instead of your browser and network connection sitting there idle, it gets put to some 'good use'. While you read the page you last downloaded, the web-accelerator will look at that page and find all the links it has to other pages. (Often, but not always the web-accelerator will only look for links that point to the same web server.) When it finds a link or collection of links the accelerator starts to download each of them. Each downloaded page is squirreled away onto your harddisk just in case you need it later. Can you see the catch yet ?.
If you haven't worked out what the catch is yet, think back to earlier paragraphs of this document that explain why the web is seen to be slow in the first place...
1. the electronic highways are congested.
2. web servers may not have the capacity to serve any quicker.
3. web-accelerators download pages that may not be needed or looked at.
... and the alchemists in the web-accelerator business' answer to this is to push more traffic onto the networks and more work onto the web-servers.
Now you see the catch. Good.
To illustrate the problem, consider the average web surfer visiting our website for a 30 minute browse. Let's assume the visitor is able to find the content she came looking for and reads it. Based on traffic at the Internet Movie Database (IMDb) we might expect this user to download between 10 and 30 pages (downloading and reading 1 page per minute on average as a maximum isn't an unreasonable assumption). For the IMDb, each page contains an average of more than 100 links to other pages, so the 10-30 pages shown to the user will contain some 1000-3000+ links. We have observed on many occasions web-accelerators requesting all the links on the currently viewed page, so our average visitor is now requesting 1000-3000+ pages in 30 minutes with her web-accelerator; that's one page every 1.8 to 0.6 seconds. In reality we've seen web-accelerators go much faster than this and do so for hours at a time.
If all of this wasn't bad enough, there's more. The ingenious reader may well be thinking all we need to do is refuse to serve web-accelerators and they'll become extinct, or at least they'll not be a bother to web server administrators wise to them. If only that were possible, well to a degree it is since some web-accelerators identify themselves to servers and the servers are entitled to refuse service as they see fit. The problem with this antidote to prefetching is that there are growing number of web-accelerators which hide behind anonymity, or to be more precise they hide behind the 'good name' of others. Web-accelerators often masquerade as Mozilla (Netscape browsers) or MSIE (Microsoft). Some are probably written by people too clueless to realise they are supposed to identify their HTTP agents properly while others are perhaps happy to shift the blame for web-accelerator abuses onto the browser makers.
Readers familiar with web server administration may relate web-accelerator problems to those of robots and crawlers. For almost as long as there have been web servers there have been robots/crawlers. Very early on it became apparent to many that unless these HTTP agents followed common sense guidelines and obeyed some ground rules laid down by server administrators, the robots would be more of a nuisance than a service. Unlike web-accelerators, robots do provide a service, that of indexing sites so that search engines can refer more people to relevant services. No such rules or guidelines exist for web-accelerators although it would be simple and a step in the right direction if they followed the same set of rules as robots.
Web-accelerators are a nuisance, they are counterproductive and they are a danger to some web servers and the infrastructure of the web itself. The more people use these products the slower the web will become and web surfers will perceive a need for more of these snake oil products.
Web-accelerators slow down the web!
© 1998 Internet Movie Database
http://www.imdb.com/irony
Quote
A quick way to slow things down
oxymoron n. Web-accelerators
Rob Hartill. Internet Movie Database. Apr 1998
Surfing the internet you sometimes may be forgiven for thinking that you've wandered off onto some mud infested cattle trail, things go that slow. As you wander the net you may not see anyone else but you're sharing congested highways with millions of other people from every corner of the world. The key thing to remember here is that you're sharing resources... limitted resources.
Sooner or later, when there are enough people using the same resources they will inevitably become saturated. Once saturated, everyone ends up waiting their turn to use the scarce resource and as web surfers we observe this saturation in the form of delays reaching and downloading web pages.
The Internet is prone to slowdowns caused by bottlenecks on key network routes. However, for web surfers this is not the only cause of delays. In this age of instant information the slightest delay is sometimes noticeable. We can become impatient with a 30 second download delay from a web server even though it might be saving us a 3 hour trip to the mall or library. That 30s delay may well be caused by the sheer complexity of creating the page requested. Maybe you've asked for a database to be searched or perhaps the server you're talking to is very popular and is overworked. Delays are almost inevitable.
Strangely, some argue that delays are for other people, and that if you use their products you can reap the benefit of state of the art technology that's able to side-step delays. We're talking web-accelerators. Since there's some variations in what some vendors consider to be web-accelerators we need to define them for the context of this article. Here we consider web-accelerators to be the web browsers and web-browser plugins which use a technique called prefetching to download web pages before they are needed.
If we were to believe the marketing hype of the web-accelerators creators and vendors then we'd be looking at the Net equivalent of the 'science' of alchemy. They'd have us believe that the web is only slow because we're not using it quickly enough. Let's explain.
Web-accelerators use prefetching. Basically that means that when you visit a web site and download a page, instead of your browser and network connection sitting there idle, it gets put to some 'good use'. While you read the page you last downloaded, the web-accelerator will look at that page and find all the links it has to other pages. (Often, but not always the web-accelerator will only look for links that point to the same web server.) When it finds a link or collection of links the accelerator starts to download each of them. Each downloaded page is squirreled away onto your harddisk just in case you need it later. Can you see the catch yet ?.
If you haven't worked out what the catch is yet, think back to earlier paragraphs of this document that explain why the web is seen to be slow in the first place...
1. the electronic highways are congested.
2. web servers may not have the capacity to serve any quicker.
3. web-accelerators download pages that may not be needed or looked at.
... and the alchemists in the web-accelerator business' answer to this is to push more traffic onto the networks and more work onto the web-servers.
Now you see the catch. Good.
To illustrate the problem, consider the average web surfer visiting our website for a 30 minute browse. Let's assume the visitor is able to find the content she came looking for and reads it. Based on traffic at the Internet Movie Database (IMDb) we might expect this user to download between 10 and 30 pages (downloading and reading 1 page per minute on average as a maximum isn't an unreasonable assumption). For the IMDb, each page contains an average of more than 100 links to other pages, so the 10-30 pages shown to the user will contain some 1000-3000+ links. We have observed on many occasions web-accelerators requesting all the links on the currently viewed page, so our average visitor is now requesting 1000-3000+ pages in 30 minutes with her web-accelerator; that's one page every 1.8 to 0.6 seconds. In reality we've seen web-accelerators go much faster than this and do so for hours at a time.
If all of this wasn't bad enough, there's more. The ingenious reader may well be thinking all we need to do is refuse to serve web-accelerators and they'll become extinct, or at least they'll not be a bother to web server administrators wise to them. If only that were possible, well to a degree it is since some web-accelerators identify themselves to servers and the servers are entitled to refuse service as they see fit. The problem with this antidote to prefetching is that there are growing number of web-accelerators which hide behind anonymity, or to be more precise they hide behind the 'good name' of others. Web-accelerators often masquerade as Mozilla (Netscape browsers) or MSIE (Microsoft). Some are probably written by people too clueless to realise they are supposed to identify their HTTP agents properly while others are perhaps happy to shift the blame for web-accelerator abuses onto the browser makers.
Readers familiar with web server administration may relate web-accelerator problems to those of robots and crawlers. For almost as long as there have been web servers there have been robots/crawlers. Very early on it became apparent to many that unless these HTTP agents followed common sense guidelines and obeyed some ground rules laid down by server administrators, the robots would be more of a nuisance than a service. Unlike web-accelerators, robots do provide a service, that of indexing sites so that search engines can refer more people to relevant services. No such rules or guidelines exist for web-accelerators although it would be simple and a step in the right direction if they followed the same set of rules as robots.
Web-accelerators are a nuisance, they are counterproductive and they are a danger to some web servers and the infrastructure of the web itself. The more people use these products the slower the web will become and web surfers will perceive a need for more of these snake oil products.
Web-accelerators slow down the web!
© 1998 Internet Movie Database
#15
Posted 11 March 2006 - 12:56 AM
I just hope it doesn't do to servers what the fasterfox extension for firefox does cause if it's so then it probably prefetches way too much pages for you to get them from cache if you ever hit the link. It can't have any algoritm for guessing what link you'll hit next so it prefetches perhaps all the pages linked from a visited page ripping practically the server's bandwitch. This won't be too bad if you're selfish (let them have more bandwitch available!
) but there are apache modules under work to ban ips that request more than "x" pages in a given time so you can be banned and worse they could ban you permanently (i don't really know if this can be done if you have a dinamic ip adress, that's what i've read.) So i hope google makes this in a smarter way, healthier for the whole internet.
#16
Posted 11 March 2006 - 12:59 PM
I used this for a while, I uninstalled it because it didn't make the difference I thought it would. But, it definately did speed up my 10MB broadband slightly.
It downloads things your browser is likely to request next, the key phrase. On a large broadband connection the extra background downloading is unlikely to make a difference while it is happening, which means your experience probably will be faster, but a dial up will really be feeling the background downloads and they will potentially slow it.
It downloads things your browser is likely to request next, the key phrase. On a large broadband connection the extra background downloading is unlikely to make a difference while it is happening, which means your experience probably will be faster, but a dial up will really be feeling the background downloads and they will potentially slow it.
#21
Posted 14 April 2006 - 06:26 PM
I used to use Google Web Accelerator. My total accelerated Internet loading time was 1.2 days. It saved me a total of 1.2 days loading time for pages. But after reformatting my hard drive, I decided it wasn't required. So now I don't use it.
Get Firefox and try it out if you like.
Get Firefox and try it out if you like.
#23
Posted 17 April 2006 - 08:04 AM
The Google Web Accelerator does nothing but simply caching all your visited webpages so it will load from cache if the site is visited again. The cache is stored on your computer, hence loading from it will be alot faster than loading from the original site. It is similar to Opera's way of being the fastest browser. However Opera includes additional pipelines to grab site contents faster than any other browsers.
However there is a disadvantage. Say if you are visiting a stock exchange website, everytime you visit you will be expecting updates and changes to the site contents. Having this web accelerator running would most probably load the previous visited site from its cache to load fast, hence you will not see the updated information from the orginal page. You will have to do a manual refresh to the page to view the up-to-date contents. At the time, it also updates the cache stored on your system. Every time you visit the page, it may happen again.
It is not a great requirement for browsers. Since you've reformatted your harddrive, your cache will be cleared off as well, leaving your system as a brand new one. Surfing webpages will be slower than having the web accelerator installed, whether or not using a Firefox browser. It will load as slow on Firefox still. Hence doesn't make any difference using Firefox or not.
However there is a disadvantage. Say if you are visiting a stock exchange website, everytime you visit you will be expecting updates and changes to the site contents. Having this web accelerator running would most probably load the previous visited site from its cache to load fast, hence you will not see the updated information from the orginal page. You will have to do a manual refresh to the page to view the up-to-date contents. At the time, it also updates the cache stored on your system. Every time you visit the page, it may happen again.
FirefoxRocks, on Apr 15 2006, 02:26 AM, said:
I used to use Google Web Accelerator. My total accelerated Internet loading time was 1.2 days. It saved me a total of 1.2 days loading time for pages. But after reformatting my hard drive, I decided it wasn't required. So now I don't use it.
Get Firefox and try it out if you like.
Get Firefox and try it out if you like.
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