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[OpaQue]

!! WHY GET CHEATED ELSEWHERE WHEN YOU CAN BE CHEATED RIGHT HERE !!

UNLIMITED SPACE AND BANDWIDTH is a Myth!
Still intrested in getting cheated - Buy Unlimited Hosting here!


Dear Members, BW is one of the most expensive factors in Web hosting. Don't get carried away by those UNMETERED BW slogans.. All these Companies assume that you don't use more than 750 mb Approx. Every 1 GB extra BW is sold @ $1 - 2... depends on the hosting company. So, it is practically impossible to get FREE BW.. Because BW itself is not FREE and is charged at each and every place on earth. Because the Host himself is purchasing BW to provide you. All of them OVERSELL.

Sincerly, I get about 5000 page views and THOSANDS of hits per day and I havent used more than 100 mb per day! That again comes to 3 GB. So if your account really requires that much BW, I suggest that you go for PAID hosting. You can easily make enough money to support your site with that traffic. KnowledgeSutra is now only a DEDICATED FREE WEB HOSTING site. We don't provide Paid hosting accounts any more. Cause, the main objective of this site was to help people get FREE Hosting. Even though our plans were the cheapest considering all the BEST Unlimited Features, We have rejected many members who had approced for Paid Hosting Except one to whom I had already accepted.

BTW, Let me make one thing clear. Go for any of the competitors FREE Web hosting company and get your account of about 20 GB BW. Upload some ZIPs, Songs and put it for Download and give the link to everyone! Within a day your account would be deleted!

What is Overselling ?
Overselling is a process in which A Hosting Provider may provide more than the allocated amount the host himself has. Suppose, I have altogether 100 GB BW. I can provide 100 accounts with 5 GB BW assuming , No one is going to use over 1 GB. This can be a great risk if most of the users actually use it. Trap17.com Does NOT OVERSELL! Hence, We provide only that much as we successfully can. So you don't have to worry about us getting shutdown. You Website is SAFE at our Servers.

Respect the Site which is helping you so much .. and care for it. It is your responsiblity to help us in return of the Best Free Hosting Service. Spread out name and Link back to us.. Enlist us in Free Webhosting lists ..

No other Company Provides Hosting Services and Advanced Technologies like
JSP , TOMCAT, TCL, Macromedia Shockwave etc.. Yes! We do support all these, if you never knew them. All these are supported since our Last UPGRADE!

Other Hosting providers charge a lot for these services while here at KnowledgeSutra.com, you get it absolutely FREE!

As for some of you may think about the revenue made by us! Well, Frankly, We have not made any single penny out of this site until now (30 July 2004). Only one Paid hosting account has been approved. And Now we have closed Paid Hosting. Soon, as we start recieving Funds from Advertising! We will Upgrade the accounts... Cause that is Trap17's Ambition.

So I request all members to support KnowledgeSutra.com and our Free Hosting Facilites..

:: Your Account is Safe with us, You can Trust US! ::

:: LIST OF PREVIOUS UPGRADES ::

1st Upgrade : More secure and Fast Servers
2nd Upgrade : Upgraded to 4 XEON Processors (2.8 GHz Each) and Added Fantastico.
3rd Upgrade : More Space and BW. Purchased RV skin for Cpanel. Added all scripts in Fanstastico to Auto-Installer to save expenses.

Next UPGRADE : Possibly next Month

So, Don't Get Cheated Elsewhere... If you want, I can cheat you Right HERE!!

[Florisjuh]

Impressive story I have 1 question:
Is it possible to buy more bandwith at Trap17?
I mean, my site is about a game maker and I want to host the program, games, recourses and tutoials. If I have mor emembers that all dowenload that stuff I think I might have my bandwith to 0

[OpaQue]

I will think about that later.... However, I am not intrested in making money through selling..

[Florisjuh]

What about hosting company's offering 300 GB of bandwith(Like Dhost)? Do they buy all that or do they oversell giganticly?

[Shackman]

Florisjuh, on Jul 31 2004, 06:40 AM, said:

What about hosting company's offering 300 GB of bandwith(Like Dhost)? Do they buy all that or do they oversell giganticly?

Paid hosting companies usually don't oversell but its usually those free hosts who oversell. I have seen this cases before.

But on the main page, it says:

50 - 250 mb space [ 50 mb provided initially ]
500 - 20,000 mb Bandwidth

I see that the maximum we can get here is 150 MB and 2 GB bandwidth? You said you don't mind losing people who needed 3 GB BW and above?

Can admin please clarify this?

-Shackman

[flashyflashy]

with all this talk about this stuff, I was wondering.... Trap17 users do get their own cgi-bin right?!?!?

[Spectre]

On the index page of Trap17, the very first page you are likely to see when you visit this site, it clearly states that amongst many others, one of the features is PERL version 5.8.1. This would strongly suggest that a CGI-BIN is included.

[neopetshelp2004]

I need to know what Bandwith is...

[Spectre]

Uh ok, that's a kind of stupid question, and will probobly be considered SPAM.

Anyway, 'bandwidth' is the amount of data drawn from the network/server/etc. Eg. if someone downloads a five megabyte file from a server, then they have used five megabytes of bandwidth.

[stevey]

Lol you know i was kinda waiting to see who was gonna pop that question "what is bandwith" and finally someone did lol. i Dont care much about bandwith coz all the stuff that needs to be downloaded from my site i redirect them to another server it makes it easier that way .

[OpaQue]

Shackman, on Jul 31 2004, 07:03 AM, said:

Florisjuh, on Jul 31 2004, 06:40 AM, said:

What about hosting company's offering 300 GB of bandwith(Like Dhost)? Do they buy all that or do they oversell giganticly?

Paid hosting companies usually don't oversell but its usually those free hosts who oversell. I have seen this cases before.

But on the main page, it says:

50 - 250 mb space [ 50 mb provided initially ]
500 - 20,000 mb Bandwidth

I see that the maximum we can get here is 150 MB and 2 GB bandwidth? You said you don't mind losing people who needed 3 GB BW and above?

Can admin please clarify this?

-Shackman

Sorry.. I was partnering up with one site and I could give people 20000mb BW but that site closed propably due to OVERSELLING! So now I don't .. I have my own servers and stuff. I do only the right thing .. and I indent to do it in the same way..

As far as paid hosting, technically .. most of them don't OVERSELL, but some really SO. I have seen many ads with UNLIMITED SPACE AND BANDWIDTH.. YEs! Some ****ers say that they do give UNLIMITED space.. Thats all bullshit! Dont trust those people.. they will fall. It is not possible until INTERNET becomes absolutely FREE.. may be in 2050 or something, we will have internet that cheap..

The MOST TRUSTED AND RELIABLE [ high BW ] host is POWWEB! Go to them if you need more. they give 5 GB per day.

[stevey]

5gb per day wow thats really tight , but i don think i would eva need that much bandwith but thats a really kool deal. i will check em out

[neopetshelp2004]

stevey, on Jul 31 2004, 04:10 PM, said:

5gb per day wow thats really tight , but i don think i would eva need that much bandwith but thats a really kool deal. i will check em out

I agree in a way...I really like the 5 GB that's alot of space but if you own like a hosting site you like give away 25 GB a day lol...

[Shackman]

I don't think the admin bothers about the content as long is it complies with the rules. There is no rule that Chinese websites can't be hosted. anyway, I am a Chinese so I can check your website to see if there is anything illegal.

After having 15 posts, you have to post a request at the 'request a Hosting account' section.

[groentjuh]

is an dutch site allowed to ... on the most free hosting providers, no i've got 1 that allows it now but it's down most of the time

ok sorry if i'm spamming!

[jailbox]

Most of that story sounds good but I rather not get my hosting here. I cant be arsed to sit here everyday and post messages only for hosting.

[Spectre]

What are you talking about? The packages that Trap17 provides are equivelent and even better than many of those that you have to pay money for. All that is asked in return is that you submit a few posts within the forum. If you can't be bothered doing even that, then there is something very wrong with you.

And if you aren't willing to contribute to the community, then there isn't much point in you being here.

[jailbox]

Sauron, on Aug 1 2004, 12:57 PM, said:

What are you talking about? The packages that Trap17 provides are equivelent and even better than many of those that you have to pay money for. All that is asked in return is that you submit a few posts within the forum. If you can't be bothered doing even that, then there is something very wrong with you.

And if you aren't willing to contribute to the community, then there isn't much point in you being here.

Yeah the hosting seems to be very good here. But the thing is that after I get the hosting, ill probably be happy with it but at one day I remember that I havent posted any messages for a week and bye bye hosting. So, my account would be deleted and my site is gone again. Its happened to me before.
Oh, and how active do I have to be in the forum? Is 1 post in a day enough?

[KooL]

why is there a limit to bandwidth? cant u keep letting ppl download off your site as long as there isnt too many downloaders at once?

(dont worry about me, i just host information and like 4 downloads at most )

[Spectre]

The bandwidth allocated to Trap17 is limited, so they can't provide something they don't have (ie. unlimited bandwidth) without 'overselling'. Which is pretty much what this thread is all about, so I don't know why you're even asking.

[chinfo]

Let's get the straight, once and for all: you can post 100 times a day, even a million times, but that doesn't help our a host in anyway. Its by CLICKING the ads you see around here that helps fund this webhost. So even if you stay around here 24/7, if you don't click even once then there's no point posting.

[Spectre]

But <- snipped -> multiple times doesn't help at all. They are all tracked, and if you click them more than once in 24 hours, it is only counted as one click.

If you click them over and over again, it is likely that Trap17 will be penalized rather than rewarded.

So just click them once, and only if you want to }

Edited by Sauron, 02 August 2004 - 04:11 AM.

[OpaQue]

I have more than 38 MEMBERS who have got hosting and still they have 0 POSTS!!!!

I dont think I have deleted any account till now! Come on Guys! We are not MICROSOFT.com that your account will be deleted ! Its only that we need you at the forums. Now it depends upon you how you do it.. I can put up a POST limit that every hosted member has to post 75 posts per month. But do you think this is going to work. One fine day! any one can take a leave and dedicate the entire day for posting at the forums.But that won't help, All that is expected is that, You come here and contribute in whatever way you can.. We never told that you come DAILY and make some posts.

WASSIE : my own admin has not been online for a month or so.. that does not mean that I am gonna delete his account. He told me that he's on a vaccation so I wont delete his account.. However, I am assured that he sincerly supports Trap17 and would always contrubute to it...

PRACTICAL thinking is STUPID! When you want GREAT SERVICE for FREE!

This is simple Give and TAKE! While Giving part is TOO BIG! The think i am asking in return is too small ...

If you have any suggestions in which I can only be assured that you come online and contribute to this site.. tell me and I will remove the rule for posting!

[jailbox]

aah ok. I already found hosting but if that place closes down like my last host did than you will see me in the hosting request forum.