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[loyal]

Hello,
Me being a Muslim means certain rules apply. I am not allowed to date! You are all probaly all shocked and so on! Infact it makes me laugh .

Anyway i suppose you want to know why: It is mainly because of the sex thing. Having sex while not married is quite close in the list of major sins to killing someone. Also Muslims are commanded to not look at the opposite sex. So i am not allowed to look at a girl for example and check if she is 'hot'.

Anyway just wanted to see your reactions!

[harad]

loyal, on Apr 15 2006, 09:40 AM, said:

Also Muslims are commanded to not look at the opposite sex. So i am not allowed to look at a girl for example and check if she is 'hot'.

Damn and you are happy with such a unnatural life? Whole live comes from sexuality, every thing (yeah, i believe in freudism). If you live in sexual abstynency you almost aren't living. Are you even allowed to think about women?

[MaineFishing45]

loyal, on Apr 15 2006, 05:40 AM, said:

Anyway i suppose you want to know why: It is mainly because of the sex thing. Having sex while not married is quite close in the list of major sins to killing someone.

Well me being a Roman Catholic says your not supposed to do that, but I mean I don't know what I'll do, but religion can't really control your life and stuff, its more of a personal decisision. I have studied muslim religion and stuff in World History I + Geography (Freshamn - High School). But can you explain the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite if you can, briefly thought, send me a PM if you don't want to post it here.

But how do you get married and stuff? Who chooses your wife?

[harad]

MaineFishing45, on Apr 16 2006, 04:01 PM, said:

Well me being a Roman Catholic says your not supposed to do that, but I mean I don't know what I'll do, but religion can't really control your life and stuff, its more of a personal decisision. I have studied muslim religion and stuff in World History I + Geography (Freshamn - High School). But can you explain the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite if you can, briefly thought, send me a PM if you don't want to post it here.

http://hnn.us/articles/934.html

"Sunni branch believes that the first four caliphs--Mohammed's successors--rightfully took his place as the leaders of Muslims" <> "Shiites, in contrast, believe that only the heirs of the fourth caliph, Ali, are the legitimate successors of Mohammed"

Edited by harad, 17 April 2006 - 09:26 PM.

[iwuvcookies]

Its pretty oppressive to humanity itself. Like those feelings of lust or whatever are natural and I"m sure you can surpress those in due time or already mastered the effect.

I don't know its just hard to live under that kind of strict teachings. I guess in a way its helps you wiht your religion. To be able to be more bound to the religion.

I don't think its wrong. I just think its a different lifestyle from what most people would live. I hope your parents pick you an okay girl.

[loyal]

harad, on Apr 16 2006, 04:42 PM, said:

Damn and you are happy with such a unnatural life? Whole live comes from sexuality, every thing (yeah, i believe in freudism). If you live in sexual abstynency you almost aren't living. Are you even allowed to think about women?

Fruedism is just a theory and philopsical thought. He can only represent the western world because he never knew the history or modern day life of the Middle Eastern world. I do not think sexuality is the only way to fully live your life. Sex is basically right there in the moment and being in the heat of the moment. Or to create offspring. I am not saying it is a useless thing. I am just saying it is not the only way to live your life. I feel my life is pretty full.

MaineFishing45, on Apr 16 2006, 05:01 PM, said:

Well me being a Roman Catholic says your not supposed to do that, but I mean I don't know what I'll do, but religion can't really control your life and stuff, its more of a personal decisision. I have studied muslim religion and stuff in World History I + Geography (Freshamn - High School). But can you explain the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite if you can, briefly thought, send me a PM if you don't want to post it here.

But how do you get married and stuff? Who chooses your wife?

Well actually you are not allowed to have sex before marriage. But if you mean dating then yeah supposed to. I do not see this as control but rather a privelge. It is hard to explain...
But in a more understandable thought, being chaste allows me to fully master my mind without having my thoughts on girls.
And if you need to know ANYTHING on Islam, just PM or post something on my forums at my website: http://www.islamhope.co.nr
Anyway i will PM you with info.

harad, on Apr 17 2006, 10:25 PM, said:

http://hnn.us/articles/934.html

"Sunni branch believes that the first four caliphs--Mohammed's successors--rightfully took his place as the leaders of Muslims" <> "Shiites, in contrast, believe that only the heirs of the fourth caliph, Ali, are the legitimate successors of Mohammed"

That is the original difference yes. But now it is different. Shiites believe that only some individuals can understand the Qur'an. Sunnis believe that all can understand the Qur'an.

iwuvcookies, on Apr 17 2006, 11:47 PM, said:

Its pretty oppressive to humanity itself. Like those feelings of lust or whatever are natural and I"m sure you can surpress those in due time or already mastered the effect.

I don't know its just hard to live under that kind of strict teachings. I guess in a way its helps you wiht your religion. To be able to be more bound to the religion.

I don't think its wrong. I just think its a different lifestyle from what most people would live. I hope your parents pick you an okay girl.

It is not opressive. For you who has always been doing what you want, it is seems harsh. But now i realise it is good for me. For example if a child wants to eat a biscuit which only you know is poisoned, and you can only stop the child from eating, then that is what you will do. The same is with God. God knows the biscuit can look delicious and tasty but in truth would kill me. I try to follow Islam. Not looking at girls for example was hard at the beginning, but gradually the way i thought about this whole issue made it alot easier.

[iGuest]

People, you've got it all wrong about Islam... This religion is all about organizing your life style, it's not about restrictions. It's the foundation of protecting and creating a very civilized society. Look at it from this angle: Not having sex before marriage means that the average of single moms is relatively less. The probability of an unsettled, emotionally disturbed society would become unlikely. Plus, if you really love a person, sex is not the answer. It is just a means of expressing love, but where is respect if you are capable of sleeping with more than one person "till you find the right one"? Everything is forbidden for a reason, and it is all good for a Muslim if he follows the rules. It is a set of determined threads of destiny, messing with it means messing your life up. I am sure we all know what I am talking about, because we all have gone through some sex-related problems or similar ones because we failed to believe. Us humans don't learn till we try, and that's our biggest mistake.

-Isra

[Striker9]

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Hello,
Me being a Muslim means certain rules apply. I am not allowed to date! You are all probaly all shocked and so on! Infact it makes me laugh

Lol, man I'm Muslim too but I have a different opinion on that. We are ALLOWED to date as long as we keep our limits. Like if you went out with some girl and just had a casual chat and got to know her and all, then yeah it's okay to date and that won't be a sin. But if you went out with a girl and ended up foreplaying or getting laid with her, then that's a huge sin cuz sex before marriage is not allowed, in all religions and not Islam alone.

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Also Muslims are commanded to not look at the opposite sex. So i am not allowed to look at a girl for example and check if she is 'hot'.

Again, you do not understand it quiet perfectly. You can look but you can't "stare with desire"! And that's actually a good thing for the girl, to preserve her dignity and respect. Because look at what girls have turned to in the West! Girls are being treated like items or sex tools these days, whenever a guy feels aroused he just goes to a bar, meets a girl, takes her to a hotel room, gets laid, and then leaves (and in most cases pays her for sleeping with him). Ok I know it's hard to see a hottie walking on the street and not look at her (personally when I see a girl wearing a mini skirt and a top that shows most of her breasts and body, I cannot take my eyes off her ) but that's why girls have to wear veils in Islam, just to protect them and protect their feminine being so they wouldn't be abused by men.

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But how do you get married and stuff? Who chooses your wife?

LOL! good question, but no don't worry, Muslim men choose their own wives after they love them and get to know them very well (at least in my country that's how things go ) but there are some countries that have extremely strict rules and dress codes and traditions (like Saudi Arabia and most of the Gulf countries) well, in these countries I don't know how people get married but I don't think it happens normally and I would say that happens because over there people do not understand Islam quiet well, I honestly think they are somehow radical and extreme and they really need to look at Islam from a totally different perspective!

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"Sunni branch believes that the first four caliphs--Mohammed's successors--rightfully took his place as the leaders of Muslims" <> "Shiites, in contrast, believe that only the heirs of the fourth caliph, Ali, are the legitimate successors of Mohammed"

Yeah that's right, that's the basic difference between Shiites and Sunnis. I'm a Shiite myself, and we believe so because there are alot of Hadiths (speeches and situations of the prophet mohammed) where he clearly states that his successors shall be Imam Ali and his descendants. And about what Loyal said that we believe only some people can explain the Qur'an, well yeah that's true, we believe that SPECIALIZED people can explain the Qur'an correctly so that we wouldn't understand the Qur'anic scripts in a wrong way. And those specialized people shall have GREAT knowledge about the Arabic literature (because the Qur'an's standard of language is very hard and complex, and not common people can understand it correctly) and in Islamic history and the prophet's life. Well, actually this is what causes the confusion in understanding the scripts, common people tend to explain it literally as is, while actually the Qur'an should be interpreted metaphorically - God may say something while he intends to say something else which is more general or more specific (it depends on the case) so... that's why there must be specialists to interpret the Qur'anic scripts. There are also some other differences but those two mentioned above are the most important.

[majklisko]

hi guys, I'm the roman catholic and after reading all those comments, I'd say, we can connect our both beliefs. There aren't any important differences between us.
That comment from Trap FeedBacker represents everything I wanted to say: religion contains just some instructions what's the best for us people, not to have to try everything to realize whats the best way...but unfortunately its written in us not to keep any rules

[iGuest]

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Replying to loyal

Hey I'm muslim too and yes I get asked all the questions all the time.

I think its hard living in America for most muslims because we are so Adapted to the North American way of life. Its sad when the majority Of our brothers and sisters lose their way and dating is one.

I have Friends who secretly meet their gf's/bf's and what a shame it is. I find myself laughin when I am asked about these things too. THank you for posting this up and I hope some peoples questions get answered.

-reply by Jannan