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[Inspiron]

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Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of local PC users running pirated Windows operating systems will soon face the shame of being reminded of their illegal action every time they switch on their machines.

The feature will be added to the operating system by Microsoft Corp from tomorrow and cannot be erased. It will nag the guilty users and can be awkward if it shows up on corporate PCs."

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The anti-piracy move is being kicked off in five countries tomorrow – the United States, Britain, New Zealand, Australia and Malaysia.

Full Story:
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...=nation&focus=1

Ok.. Another step for Microsoft in attempt to play with your non-genuine desktop when she cannot further control your pirated operating system. It won't hurt much to home users. However businessmen, who owns pirated versions, while giving presentations to their clients, will be embarrased whenever this popup comes as and when randomly. What's worst is the message in the popup: "This is not a genuine Windows system.".

[T100]

The question asked by Yahoo, "Do you yahoo?"
The question asked by M$, "Are you still using windows today?"

Time to change to a new OS for a lot of people.

[Cerebral Stasis]

This is such garbage, it's not even funny. What else can a person do when one is not rich and each operating system can only be legally installed on a total of 2 computers, and a new copy costs around $150 or so? If one switches to Linux or Mac, one cannot run the programs one have always run, but if one sticks with Windows, one is thwarted at every turn by legal and economical issues that limit what they can do. Where can one turn?

[keysmaker]

T100, on Apr 25 2006, 08:58 AM, said:

The question asked by Yahoo, "Do you yahoo?"
The question asked by M$, "Are you still using windows today?"

Time to change to a new OS for a lot of people.

Well, this is another Good idea from Mr Gates company, anyway this is a little bit contradictory,

1- Now Mac support the bootcamp for installing both systems in their hardware, and i think that almost everyone who bought a Mac thinking like the computer will be like using the iPod, they will run for a pirated copy and install windows on it. Just because they dont feel in "Home", without start and that crappy stuff...

2-The software for a small bussiness can cost MORE than the salary for the employees, so, seems pretty stupid for a small business that is starting to buy that expensive software.

Solutions:

START USING FREE SOFTWARE! is better, reliable, and ovbiosly FREE!
You can try Linux, it comes with a LOT of software and a office suite for home and business application.
Now go ahead and follow your peinguin!

[iwuvcookies]

I woudln't have to worry about this. Well long time ago i would have but i don't know cause i bought the real thing. yesh it would be embarassing for coportate people. It would be unprofessional.

i think there would be ways to counteract this implementation of Microsoft. some kind of hack. hahaha. there will always be patches or hacks. They're already making lots of money. Why crack on it now??

[WindAndWater]

For those people who have windows update set on manual you have the option to download the patch or ignore it. Uncheck the box, select that you never want to see the update again and presto. Don't you just love bureaucracy?

(I'm not condoning pirating Windows, but if for some reason you don't want your copy bloated with a useless extra patch... *whistles innocently*)

[mayank]

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For those people who have windows update set on manual you have the option to download the patch or ignore it. Uncheck the box, select that you never want to see the update again and presto. Don't you just love bureaucracy?

(I'm not condoning pirating Windows, but if for some reason you don't want your copy bloated with a useless extra patch... *whistles innocently*)

Thanks for this info! But try not to give these kind of info in future.

And as far, this thing is concerned, I think Microsoft must take a better step and that must be providing Operating System at a cheaper rate. This will allow many users infact Millions of users to run a legal copy of windows on their machines. And I am sure with this strategy Microsoft will atleast earn something Because, those millions of pirated copies are not fetching them even a single penny.
I think Microsoft must think on these terms and I am sure they'll see a whooping increase in their profits.

[Blacklaser]

As far as windows genuine goes.. its more a joke than anything else. It doesn't even take 15 minutes of reserach to get around it, fetch the important upgrades and ignore the rest.... this little popup won't change much except scare a few hardworking unsuspecting home users out of an extra couple bucks.

Edited by Blacklaser, 26 April 2006 - 01:48 AM.

[keysmaker]

iwuvcookies, on Apr 25 2006, 05:13 PM, said:

I woudln't have to worry about this. Well long time ago i would have but i don't know cause i bought the real thing. yesh it would be embarassing for coportate people. It would be unprofessional.

i think there would be ways to counteract this implementation of Microsoft. some kind of hack. hahaha. there will always be patches or hacks. They're already making lots of money. Why crack on it now??

Well yeah, seems like microsoft want to help the crackers, because the vista CD WILL include all the distributions of it,

• Windows Vista Business
  
• Windows Vista Enterprise
  
• Windows Vista Home Premium
  
• Windows Vista Ultimate
  
• Windows Vista Home Basic

IN THE SAME CD!

that is completely ...... i dont have any words for describing the level of stupidity of them, they want to fight against piracy, but they make more simple the way of piracy for crackers! It's unsense.

BTW IM AGAINST the piracy, but also against the swindle of charging a lot of money for a OS.
SUPPORT FREE SOFTWARE!

[anwiii]

Inspiron, on Apr 25 2006, 06:13 AM, said:

Ok.. Another step for Microsoft in attempt to play with your non-genuine desktop when she cannot further control your pirated operating system. It won't hurt much to home users. However businessmen, who owns pirated versions, while giving presentations to their clients, will be embarrased whenever this popup comes as and when randomly. What's worst is the message in the popup: "This is not a genuine Windows system.".

hmmmmm well my take is that it will only hurt microsoft and not help them. i will believe it when i see it. they already pretty much of the market cornered so they risk losing miscrosoft os users swiching another free one and there are a couple good ones. the operating system is front end for all the back end profits microsoft makes. their back end profits(the main profits) can only go down from this decision. so again, i will believe it when i see it.

if anyone can confirm this first hand, i will be interested in knowing. again, i'll believe it when i see it. i think it's a stupid marketing tactic. maybe microsoft has principles now and trying to fight piracy even if they lose business. but when has microsoft ever made decisions on principle.....blah.....where did this information come come???

as far as a two user license i heard about, i thought it was only a 1 computer license? am i wrong here? only 1 computer per code?

i have had problems with m/s in the past but i do know that if you ever need a legitimate code, they give you one over the phone if you forgot yours. i got mine this way once. i had to argue for 1/2 hour with someone i couldn't understand. anyway, this in itself defeats the purpose of protecting against piracy unless that policy has changed too. btw- i had my original code sticker on my pc, i was just testing something out to see if they would give me one.

anyway, something isn't setting right with me in what i'm hearing.....

[Inspiron]

anwiii, I don't know if screenshots are able to make you believe this step from Microsoft is true.







You can see more of this stuffs and article here..
http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp...9720&sec=prodit
http://windowsobserver.com/gallery2/v/Wind...tage/?g2_page=2

Edited by Inspiron, 26 April 2006 - 09:36 AM.

[Blacklaser]

As was to be expected a lot of legal users have problems with this "Windows is not genuine" crap... proof can be found here

Not noly that, but for all those running a pirated version, not even 24 hours after the release it took me less than 5 minutes to find an easy workaround. There already are different methods as can bee seen here or here. Of course I don't encourage pirating software but for all those who own a legal version of it and still get the annoying messages, those are workarounds until Microsft gets off their lazy derriers and fixes it...

Personally I haven't been affected(that's because I don't let Microsoft decide what updates go onto my computer), but a friend of mine has had the problems and I can see how annoying it is. My suggestion is turning of automatic dowload of the updates since letting Microsoft handle it is like letting a thieve install the alarm system of your house...not a good idea, as they have proven yet again... All they're doing is annoy their customers and the pirates, which MS is trying to go after, are rolling on the floor laughing. My congratulations to Microsoft: You managed to screw your customers over yet again!

Edited by Blacklaser, 27 April 2006 - 02:34 PM.

[Togi]

Huh.. so this is a real thing, eh?
From the screenies, I guess it's already going on.. but I haven't heard anyone complaining about it in the Electronic Cafe at school, so I guess it didn't hit very hard. I suppose anyone who is going to pirate windows would be smart enough to turn off the automatic updates.. and I'm sure there will be a billion work-arounds.

Windows software is just too expensive.. I guess you have to suck it up and buy it, if you dont want to use Linux.. but for people like my boyfriend and I, who are building, upgrading, and scrapping computers all the time.. switching out parts and wiping harddrives and stuff.. even going out and spending $200 on the OS software would cause a hassle, if we can't use it freely >.>
Thank god for Tux

[tt3]

Blacklaser, on Apr 27 2006, 03:32 PM, said:

As was to be expected a lot of legal users have problems with this "Windows is not genuine" crap... proof can be found here

Not noly that, but for all those running a pirated version, not even 24 hours after the release it took me less than 5 minutes to find an easy workaround. There already are different methods as can bee seen here or here. Of course I don't encourage pirating software but for all those who own a legal version of it and still get the annoying messages, those are workarounds until Microsft gets off their lazy derriers and fixes it...

Personally I haven't been affected(that's because I don't let Microsoft decide what updates go onto my computer), but a friend of mine has had the problems and I can see how annoying it is. My suggestion is turning of automatic dowload of the updates since letting Microsoft handle it is like letting a thieve install the alarm system of your house...not a good idea, as they have proven yet again... All they're doing is annoy their customers and the pirates, which MS is trying to go after, are rolling on the floor laughing. My congratulations to Microsoft: You managed to screw your customers over yet again!

It is about time Microsoft really got tuff on pirates, instead of putting up pathetic nag screens warning people. The way I see it, MS, should have a screen come up, locking users out of the operating system, and hard coding it into the OS.

[wariorpk]

Wow this is a new low even for Microsoft. I think this is kind of unfair for the people who run pirated Windows who bought it from some store and did not even know it was pirate. I do not see why it is fair to punish the innocent as well as the guilty. Almost all computer places install Windows on their computers and who knows if they give everyone a unique copy and they still bill you for it. In fact, I tell them I don't want Windows and buy my own copy in an unopened box.

[Florisjuh]

Well well, what do we have here? A very bad attempt to counter act pirating buiseness it seems *shrug*. Why give them a friendly pop up? Better would be to disable their system completely, wouldn't it? But on the other hand, so many people seem to have errors with this little patch, if they would totally block your system it would mean disaster for these legal users getting borked by Microsoft. Seeing the so called anti priracy program already got cracked just makes me laugh about microsoft, they seem to be the most stupid company in the world right now.

Is this a serious attempt from Microsoft to counter piracy? Don't make me laugh...

[Blacklaser]

tt3, on Apr 27 2006, 07:07 PM, said:

It is about time Microsoft really got tuff on pirates, instead of putting up pathetic nag screens warning people. The way I see it, MS, should have a screen come up, locking users out of the operating system, and hard coding it into the OS.

Did you even read what I said instead of just quoting it: A LOT of poeple owning a legal version have problems with this patch. Would you rather have MS locking up your legaly owned system just because there's a stupid little mistake in a patch they applied? I totally agree with Florisjuh

[Scarus]

I'm sure that this will not even cause a hiccup in the cracker/hacker community. Just like when xp came out and you had to register online within a month or it would become inactive, this little security measure will quickly be overcome by crackers and any pirate os will already be cracked to avoid this before it ever gets to the ultimate consumer.

To go back to the post about updates, you wouldn't be too bright if you were using pirated software but still let Microsoft, or any other software manufacturer, look inside your computer whenever they wanted to.

Scarus

[anwiii]

Florisjuh, on Apr 27 2006, 02:46 PM, said:

Well well, what do we have here? A very bad attempt to counter act pirating buiseness it seems *shrug*. Why give them a friendly pop up? Better would be to disable their system completely, wouldn't it? But on the other hand, so many people seem to have errors with this little patch, if they would totally block your system it would mean disaster for these legal users getting borked by Microsoft. Seeing the so called anti priracy program already got cracked just makes me laugh about microsoft, they seem to be the most stupid company in the world right now.
Is this a serious attempt from Microsoft to counter piracy? Don't make me laugh...

if what all is saying is true and these messages are hitting legal owners of the os software, even if it's through a multi license(usually through a store you bought your computer from) then microsoft will have some serious legal issues in the future.

is there anything on the microsoft website that suggests any of this topic here or screenshots of what to expect? i know someone posted screen shots, but where did they come from?

sorry if i am a little leary, but i've seen too many scams out there to believe everything i hear or see so anything from microsoft directly? post a link that comes directly from microsoft if anyone has any information on that

[Florisjuh]

anwiii, on Apr 27 2006, 10:03 PM, said:

if what all is saying is true and these messages are hitting legal owners of the os software, even if it's through a multi license(usually through a store you bought your computer from) then microsoft will have some serious legal issues in the future.

is there anything on the microsoft website that suggests any of this topic here or screenshots of what to expect? i know someone posted screen shots, but where did they come from?

sorry if i am a little leary, but i've seen too many scams out there to believe everything i hear or see so anything from microsoft directly? post a link that comes directly from microsoft if anyone has any information on that

Yes you are right, I don't think there is any information from Microsoft itself yet, so I can't confirm what I said is true. I ain't gonna install a pirated version on my computer just to check if it's true tho..

But, the sources given look quite thrustworty I have to say, even trough they aren't official statements from Microsoft.

[kawasu]

when did this update get implemented? i've never seen any messages like that and my friends all have pirated versions... my windows came with the pc so i dont have much to worry about but my mates on the other hand... gg haha. i'm sure there willl be some sort of illegal fix for this anyway.

[gaea]

Hahahah. Personally, I find this halarious. The claim that this is a "perminate tattoo" is even more funny. Do you guys remember Half-Life 2's anti-cracking measures? Supposedly the strongest anti-theft security ever released on a product for the general consumsion. And there were pirated copies out for download on the exact day it was released. I'm sure that there are already many patches released to counteract this anoyance.

Still, great for a laugh.

[Hamtaro]

If it's causing such a bad problem for legal users, they'd have to release a patch to fix that patch (sorta strange to me). It's mistakes like that which make me happy to not use Windows anymore at home. It's also funny how it messed up like it does. Microsoft can try as hard as possible to prevent pirated copies, but it won't help much. There will still be many more pirated copies out. Piracy is just about the hardest thing to fight, no matter what company it involves.

[DogEater008]

Lol, has anyone got the popup yet? lol.. I'm also curious about this, lol, if microsoft could send out a new patch that allows it to detect if the windows operating system is geniune or not, why can't they somehow report these findings back to microsoft and get the person procescuted for owning an illegal copy of windows?

Well, it's not like i want them to do this because then there are tons of people that runs on priating windows wheather they know it or not. Also, what i found really funny is my computer repair teacher (i had to take this class since there wasn't any room in any other class) has a stack of copied cd of Windows 98. LOL...

By they way, how can they tell if the window version is genuine or not? Doesn't it depends on the serial number that you entered when installing window? Well, from what i know, fake generated serial number doesn't work with updates. So if you used a fake number, you are not allow to update your window version. My real question here is, how can they implement the new patch that causes the popup or nagging the users of their guilts? And if the priated windows users used a geniune serial number, then wouldn't patch thing the window version is geniune?

Well, i guess it's time for everyone to learn how to use linx and avoid the troubles. =P

[Inspiron]

kawasu, on May 2 2006, 09:02 PM, said:

when did this update get implemented? i've never seen any messages like that and my friends all have pirated versions... my windows came with the pc so i dont have much to worry about but my mates on the other hand... gg haha. i'm sure there willl be some sort of illegal fix for this anyway.

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The anti-piracy move is being kicked off in five countries tomorrow – the United States, Britain, New Zealand, Australia and Malaysia.

The article was published on April 25, 2006, and it stated the above message, that it will affect the few countries. Hence if you are not staying in that 5 regions, you've probably not see those tatoos on your desktop. Wait till Microsoft releases that update to the whole wide world, then you should see it on your desktop.