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[rldowling03]

Hey all i am doing a project about Ned Kelly in my Australian Studies class and wanted to get your opinion on weather you think Ned Kelly is a Victim, Villian or Hero. I personally think he is a Hero to all the Irish people who were deported/moved to Australia in the 1800's. Because we watched the film Ned Kelly and I see how the british police treat all the Irish Settlers back in those days, as the Irish and British didn't work well together and hated each other (or so i've been told) and the way the british treated the Irish settlers was appauling (but i suppose it was back in the 1800's) and i think the british deserved what happened to them form ned kelly and his gang, because he was just standing up for the Irish, and i wouldn't classify him as a villian as when he is in the bush and the 2 British police come and they start shooting, Ned Kelly shoots the police and appologises for it and wished he never did it and didn't mean to which showed to me he isn't being a cold blooded murderer. Well thats what i think and sorry if it don't make much sense as it's very late and i'm very tired. Well i would like others opinions on this weather you think he is a victim, villian or hero. Thanks all

[Tyssen]

What's this British police stuff? The cops were as much Australians as Ned Kelly was.

[PmH]

Ned Kelly is none of those. He's not a hero, nor a victim, nor a villain, he's a mix. Killing, not matter what is no good.

Anyway as for the British and the Irish, there is still some things going on today, too. However, the IRA has diminished rather much, only a tad of trouble here and there... it's been going on for a while though, so I guess it's become commonplace in the world.

[leeleelee]

I am an Aussie and we think of Ned Kelly as an Icon. "such is life" is what he said before he was hung. Im pretty sure - Yep but we just think of him as an Aussie Bush ranger - a criminal - but we love him.

[rldowling03]

Basically all the police in that time were british, and me myself i think of him as a hero to all the irish people who he fought for and stood up for.

[Tyssen]

rldowling03, on May 6 2006, 01:22 PM, said:

Basically all the police in that time were british

That's because everyone at that time was British - even the Irish (the Republic of Ireland didn't become independent from Britain until the 20th century). It's not a case of the cops being British and everyone else being Australian. Australia was so new as a country at that time that you can't draw a distinction between British cops and the people they were policing.

[confessionalchrissite]

leeleelee, on May 6 2006, 09:37 AM, said:

I am an Aussie and we think of Ned Kelly as an Icon. "such is life" is what he said before he was hung. Im pretty sure - Yep but we just think of him as an Aussie Bush ranger - a criminal - but we love him.

I agree!

[iGuest]

He is the man who inspired freedom in this country he gave the poor hope and put troopers to their deaths but overall he was a good man (SUCH IS LIFE)

-ADAM

[iGuest]

He was a fair in a sense, he took to equalize the injustice that he faced but by spilling so much blood I don't think he could be counted worthy being an "Australian Icon."

-Ananomous

[iGuest]

Hey, I'm doing an English essay on Ned Kelly as well about whether he is a hero or a criminal. I've choosen hero so if you have any hints they would be relly appreciated!!!
Thanx, kate

-Kate

[iGuest]

Replying to rldowling03
He is a hero because he changed the way police treated people back then.

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[iGuest]

Hello

I am doing an essay on ned kelly and whether he was a hero or villain. I would like your oppion and you should help me lol

Email me back

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[iGuest]

I think ned kelly is a hero because he was treated injustly by the police and also in 1865 he saved a chilf from drowning. So in my oponion he is a hero which knew what freedon meant> ceya :)

[iGuest]

Ned Kelly was a vitim because, though he was a murderer and though he saved a boys life, the Kelly family had specific orders made for them. Police officers had to arrest them for even the smallest crime and policeman Fitzpatrick tried to rape Ned's sister.

[iGuest]

Ned Kelly
Ned Kelly - Hero, Victim Or Villian

Hey all.
I'm also doing an in class essay on ned kelly 2morro, and I think I'm saying hes a hero, for many of the reasons above, if you have anymore ideas anyone let me no yeaah?
Thanks for the Help :)

-In need of Help

[iGuest]

Replying to rldowling03

I don't think he was a hero but a creature of his circumstances.I be believe he was moulded by his surroundings. He was a criminal there is no doubt about that. But he did what he needed to do to survive and to look after and protect his family.


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[iGuest]

Hero or Villian
Ned Kelly - Hero, Victim Or Villian

I'm doing an essay on Ned Kelly on wether he was a Hero or a villian I am thinking about going for hero but I'm not sure I'm anyone has any good info I'd like to know.

Thanks

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[iGuest]

hey I don't know if he is a hero but he is definitely an Icon... I think he stood up for what he believed in and, may have been a hero; depending on what you define as one. Heappealed to the "anti-authority" aspect of Australian culture that many australian's admire/d and I believe that that is one of the reasons he is considered a "hero"... (once again people, it depends on what you classify as a hero) :)

-Anonymous

[iGuest]

victim + hero = villianNed Kelly - Hero, Victim Or Villian

Ned Kelly was all three of those titles, he was a victim because the cops abused thier power and arrested him and eventually arrested his mother. Even the best of men have limits."do you know what happens when you kick a dog one too may times?... They bite" (quote from 'home room').  Ned was obviously tired of the police thinking they are above the law but taking advantage of it when they needed to. Kelly stood up for his family, his friends and everybody else that needed someone to stand up for them. Ned Kelly stole from the banks not for his own selfish greed but to help his friends and family, he gave the money to them. He killed so he could keep his own life, basically self-defense. But everyone would have a different opinion on Ned Kelly.

I don't think that Ned Kelly is any of those catergories. I think he could be in the same class as, oh I don't know, ummm batman. He was an outlaw vigilante.

-john

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