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[lovelylady345]

i think it is a problem but it isn't gonna kill us so we should do a little more research before people anounce to the world we are all gonna dye.that is just my honest opinion,if you don't agree well then just remember
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[Moolkye]

I think Global warming has been around longer than we have. I do not think there is a problem, just a cycle. I believe that this will all come around full circle eventually.
Yes the stuff we have today does effect it, but I do not believe that. If so, than our time here with the pollutants that we put into the air, are nothign compared to what has been put into it from the past such as volcanic ash and other celestial disruptions.

[lovelylady345]

Moolkye, on May 9 2006, 09:08 PM, said:

I think Global warming has been around longer than we have. I do not think there is a problem, just a cycle. I believe that this will all come around full circle eventually.
Yes the stuff we have today does effect it, but I do not believe that. If so, than our time here with the pollutants that we put into the air, are nothign compared to what has been put into it from the past such as volcanic ash and other celestial disruptions.

Could be, but who knows?

[Moolkye]

Well no one really knows. heck we've only been keeping records of it for what now? 30 years? maybe less. Heck the earth is a lot older than that. So I think instead of making assumptions and choosing fear mongering as a selling point for disaster, let's use long terms facts, and we have none of those yet.

[Cerebral Stasis]

It's been found that the largest producer of greenhouse gasses are plants, themselves, so apparently the enviroment manages to balance things out one way or another.

[matto]

Ah 'tis my subject. I've done a bit of research in this for some projects of mine for school. I got to talk with some former professor at Harvard about it, but I can't quote stuff because I don't remember the exact words so bear with me. =)

Moolkye, on May 9 2006, 02:08 PM, said:

I think Global warming has been around longer than we have. I do not think there is a problem, just a cycle. I believe that this will all come around full circle eventually.
Yes the stuff we have today does effect it, but I do not believe that. If so, than our time here with the pollutants that we put into the air, are nothign compared to what has been put into it from the past such as volcanic ash and other celestial disruptions.

There most certainly is a cycle. If we allow it to continue by not stopping our greenhouse gas releasing, it will result in the human race (and other species) becoming extinct (eventually... talking 100-200 years or so), or at least some chaos because we'll run out of oil eventually as well. Whichever happens, right after there will be an immediate decrease of the amount of CO2 being released, and thus the temperatures will cool down again. I'm not sure if the cycle will start up again and have life form after that, though... =p

Cerebral Stasis, on May 9 2006, 08:51 PM, said:

It's been found that the largest producer of greenhouse gasses are plants, themselves, so apparently the enviroment manages to balance things out one way or another.

I'd love to see some evidence of that. Can you explain the amazing increase in the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere recently? It is a huge difference, and I don't see how anyone can say that it naturally occurred. Here's a graph of it I found online, though I cannot guarantee its validity, I doubt that it is inaccurate.

As you can see, it was previously going up and down, but staying at a somewhat constant amount. Until about 1900.

[Albus Dumbledore]

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As you can see, it was previously going up and down, but staying at a somewhat constant amount. Until about 1900.

yeah, about the time of the car invention...

as for the fact of global warming, i hate the heat, but i do what i can and that is it... i know some people are going to say how stupid of you....blah..blah..blah..blah, dont bother...because i dont relaly care..

but hey, there was the ice age, now we will have the heat age blah i hate it

[leeleelee]

We are talking about the issue in Australia alot. Its crunch time for the world.

Sustainable Fossil Fuel
Cambridge University Press, January 19, 2006
More and more people believe we must quickly wean ourselves from fossil fuels oil, natural gas and coal to save the planet from environmental catastrophe, wars and economic collapse. Professor Jaccard argues that this view is misguided. We have the technological capability to use fossil fuels without emitting climate-threatening greenhouse gases or other pollutants. The transition from conventional oil and gas to unconventional oil, unconventional gas and coal for producing electricity, hydrogen and cleaner-burning fuels will decrease energy dependence on politically unstable regions. In addition, our vast fossil fuel resources will be the cheapest source of clean energy for the next century and perhaps longer, which is critical for the economic and social development of the world¹s poorer countries. By buying time for increasing energy efficiency, developing renewable energy technologies and making nuclear power more attractive, fossil fuels will play a key role in humanity¹s quest for a sustainable energy system.

[Moolkye]

I still think Ethenol is a better option. It's clean and very abundant.

[Reaper]

well it is quite a bad one as it does not do anything quickly but over the longer periods of time it is when it causes the damage as there will probolly be no fatal effect for the next 400 or 500 years but that is when it will start becoming deadly i think

i say that because if you look at it over the past 100 odd years they have recorded a steady increase in temperatures. the problem is not so much that it is getting warmer it is how this is effecting everything else like how it is melting the ice caps or how it is playing hovoc with the seasonal changes and things like that and at the moment it is ok. It iis only going to get worst is something is not done about as this already made it alot harder for certain crops to be grown and even for certain wild life to sustain it self because of the way everything has change.

The one thing i don't understand is why the are still so reliant on fossil fuels and things like oil, i can't see why they can't produce a synthetic oil which they should be able to make alot cleaner and even cheaper, they must the technology to do this !! Almost everything else in this world they have been able to make synthetic versions of it !!!

i think it is just easier to carry on pulling it out the ground likes there is no tomorrow. They don't put any effort in and who ever is the person who owns that is a multibillionare because everyone else is also to lazy. But one day they will not have anymore of these resources and then what will happen ??