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[Nitefell]

I mean, what if someone sees you differently than what you see in your reflection? I know it's against common logic, but really? It can't be proven. What if the color pink looks like what you think black is? Everytime I think about this, I get headaches, but it is a crazy possibility. I honestly wonder about these things. Imagine, for a second, if people did see things differently, and you had the opportunity to see through their eyes? I can't even concieve what that would be like. Would you be shocked? Amused? Would you see colors you never thought could exist, animals you thought you knew? What about the people you knew? Would it totally change your opinion on someone your attracted to? That makes me think the mos, for you may find someone attractive, but your friend thinks less than that of them. What are your opinions on this? Do you think this is a possibility?

[Paul]

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What if the color pink looks like what you think black is

First of all, THIS COLOR could be 'asdfqwerty33' for all you know... because we as human beings like to keep things neat, organized and standardized, we gave each of these a name and in this case, THIS COLOR is red.

The color could've been anything, but its just a standard name that we as humans chose and accepted.

This reminds me of colorblind people... it doesn't really affect their lives in any way... but it would surprise them to know that what they see is not what the others see.

geez... i've got myself confused now

Anyways, this is an interesting theory.

[Thorned Rose]

Many things in the universe is arbitrary, even time. Time in reality is fluid and slows or speeds up etc but humans invented clocks and hours and minutes and seconds not set by time itself but by someone who decided that 1 second would be this long and 1 minute would be made up of 60 seconds etc.

Just think about your first memory of someone and compare it to them now. Most of the time you'll find that your first impression image is quite to different to how you see that person now.

Or how my self image (what I think I look like) is quite different to what I see in the mirror or in photos.

It's not theory, it's fact. And I too always find it interesting to 'delve' into the minds of others wondering what their perspective is. The human mind works in some pretty amazing ways. Does a person who has been blind all their life 'see' blackness like when a seeing person closes their eyes or do they sense nothing...?

Interesting thread - thanks for starting it!

[fffanatics]

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First of all, THIS COLOR could be 'asdfqwerty33' for all you know... because we as human beings like to keep things neat, organized and standardized, we gave each of these a name and in this case, THIS COLOR is red.

Techniqually this color is just a wave of photons that is being transmitted outwards by a leds in the monitor of a certain wavelength. We as humans, have found it easier to name these wavelengths like red and blue instead of going around saying "can i get the 630nm crayon please". It just makes more sense. Plus, back in the days when the colors were named, they didnt have the technology to measure the wavelength of light and they didnt know that only certain wavelength are reflected by some materials which is why we see them as that color.

[Thorned Rose]

fffanatics, on Jun 3 2006, 02:37 AM, said:

Techniqually this color is just a wave of photons that is being transmitted outwards by a leds in the monitor of a certain wavelength. We as humans, have found it easier to name these wavelengths like red and blue instead of going around saying "can i get the 630nm crayon please". It just makes more sense. Plus, back in the days when the colors were named, they didnt have the technology to measure the wavelength of light and they didnt know that only certain wavelength are reflected by some materials which is why we see them as that color.

Doesn't change the fact though that what different people see is subjective. Take a blue-green colour for example (around 493nm) - I might say that it is a blue colour with a hint of green whereas other people will say that it is a green colour with a slightly blue tinge....
It's also dependent on how much of the different idopsins (cone pigments) there are in the retinas of someone's eyes. If a person lacks some of the idopsin responsible for red colour absorption, that person's vision will appear much more washed out with a blue-green tinge than other people (try turning down the red on your monitor and you'll see what I mean). The amount of idposins can also vary from eye to eye - if you close one eye and then change to the other you may notice that your vision has a slightly different tinge to it. It's also what we call colour blindness - where someone may completely lack the idopsin for a particular colour range.
It's not as simple as light waves. My favorite colour is blue. Why is that? Why does my daughter like pink? (which I hate). Colour/light also has a profound effect on human emotion that while generally the same for most people is also subjective to experience. If a person suffers a trauma and they are surrounded by the colour blue may end up with an aversion to it, even though emotionally it creates feelings of peacefulness and tranquility.

Like I said, the human mind (or any minds for that matter) are fascinating and amazing in how they work and why they work the way they do.

[Florisjuh]

A few years back, I think I was thinking about this too, but there is probably no way to prove it, however, if you combine two colors, there will eb a new color which looks a bit like the other two, but it will also look like a new color, if people would name this new color, and it would look different for everyone, it might be a bit hard to see how they got into the name, so this theory could only be right if the colors all changed the same way

[Thelaw]

This is an interesting thread. I must say one thing though lol. Only that the fact is People can imagine and think and see things different than you. Not through their eye but through the images composed in your mind. The concept of what you saw, or what you think you saw. is really what you didnt see at all. This isnt really making since. so heres an example. You all came to this thread to see opinons on this. You might of saw what i said, but what you thought of it is different from everyone else or maybe similar, it could even be the same. But anything is possible in this world. even things that seem beyond logic and common sense, this world be live in is unbound beyond laws of gravity and matter.

[Janissary]

Back in 6th grade my friend came up with those thoughts... What if this aint blue

But the posts here are much more interesting

Thorned Rose, on Jun 2 2006, 06:50 AM, said:

Just think about your first memory of someone and compare it to them now. Most of the time you'll find that your first impression image is quite to different to how you see that person now.

Or how my self image (what I think I look like) is quite different to what I see in the mirror or in photos.

Or think;
When you record your voice, it feels different... and mostly in a bad way.

We all take same inputs but progress it differently...

[Mich]

Just think what this world would be like if everybody saw, thought, and preceived everything exactly the same. Seems to me it would be pretty boring. Variety is the spice of life. Everybody's concept of things is what makes life interesting. Now, I do thing it would be wonderful if everybody could preceive of peace in the same manner. This would be a blessing to the peoples of the world. But, not everything.

I have a friend whose favorite color is yellow. He is color blind, so I don't know what color he is actually seeing in his head. It would be interesting to get inside there and see what he sees.

Edited by Mich, 07 June 2006 - 10:33 PM.

[Thorned Rose]

Thelaw, on Jun 6 2006, 05:09 AM, said:

This is an interesting thread. I must say one thing though lol. Only that the fact is People can imagine and think and see things different than you. Not through their eye but through the images composed in your mind. The concept of what you saw, or what you think you saw. is really what you didnt see at all. This isnt really making since. so heres an example. You all came to this thread to see opinons on this. You might of saw what i said, but what you thought of it is different from everyone else or maybe similar, it could even be the same. But anything is possible in this world. even things that seem beyond logic and common sense, this world be live in is unbound beyond laws of gravity and matter.

True true. It's like the discussions about reality and what we perceive as reality. Is this real or are we just dreaming (like the whole Matrix thing). You can very much see different perceptions of reality when you look at people with severe psychoses where they believe their delusions are literally real no matter how far out and funky they might be. What we see and perceive as being real isn't what is actually there. It's what our brains 'think' is there. '
I watched a documentary a while ago that was about vision and the things that can go wrong with it. When things go very wrong with vision, the majority of the time it's because of the brain not the eyes. I remember this one woman they interviewed who couldn't see movement. I thought "what?!" How can you not see movement. If something is moving in front of your eyes you are seeing it move.... It was hard to come to grips with as I couldn't comprehend how someone could not perceive movement. What the lady saw was like a series of still photos, like a slow strobe or if you turned the frame rate way down. The problem was that the part of the brain responsible for perceiving motion was damaged. Once again all in the mind and very, very wierd but very interesting.