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Do You Believe Dragons Breathed Ice?


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#11 brainless

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Posted 25 September 2006 - 10:46 PM

uhm ... there are some chemicals which kind of freeze when exposed to air ... but it would not be possible to breathe ice the way the fire-breathing dragons are imagined to breathe fire (like in a huge ball of flames/ice); this chemical would merely be dropped on $target and take a while to start the freezing effect...

...but I suppose I have found something which might be (one of the?) origin(s) of the myth of fire-breathing dragons: It's a reptile living on an island somewhere around Indonesia, it's called the "Komodo dragon" [it's mentioned in John Perkins' "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" somewhere in the first chapters when he describes how he prepared for a job in Indonesia] and I've read about it before under the german name "Komodo-Waran" [in Douglas Adams' "Die Letzten ihrer Art" ("The last of their kind"), a report on his journeys to some animals close to extinction in the 1980's]:

It is about 2 meters long and half a man high [that's a little less than a meter, I guess] and lived, originally, on indonesian islands but nowadays survives on only one island. Its mouth "smells like no other creature [Adams] know[s], you can smell it fifty meters against the wind" and its saliva contains bacteria as dangerous to anything alive as not many other things. A story quoted by Adams: Some french adventurer in the 18th century got bitten by one of these creatures and survived the journey back to Paris but died a couple of months later because the wound simply refused to heal...

...and now go and figure out what kind of stories earlier people would tell about something like this and consider these factors: a) people like to adjust facts to make their stories more interesting [well ... people who hear this story might adjust them as well] and :) most stories where told from generation to generation since there was about no written history. This has to lead to speculations about mythical creatures...

--note: I am aware of the fact that this attempt to explain some myths is not going to give a satisfying explanation when you ask about the origin of dragons in, for example, the german tales of heroes [I'm using these tales as a reference because I am not firm in the tales of other countries. The german tales of heroes are set somewhen between 600 and 1200AD...]

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Posted 28 September 2006 - 03:02 AM

wow some interesting opinons. i'm against the existence of dragons too. i cant see any logical way of a creature being able to breathe fire, let alone ice. i don't think there has ever been evidence to suggest such creatures ever existed nor do i think they will ever find any. i do speculate as to why dragons appear in a number of ancient civilisations though.

perhaps they were passed around by travelers and pioneers, i don't have the knowledge to say anything in this area. i've never really had interest in researching mythilogical creatures, though i do find them to be quite interesting.

all in all, i doubt dragons could ever breathe fire or ice. i don't believe dragons even existed. at their prime, dragons would've been some make believe creature. people were alot more gullable then, they didn't have the science and logical thinking to doubt such existences.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 11:01 AM

ice breathing dragons!Do You Believe Dragons Breathed Ice?Well, I just have one question to ask all of you... What do you really think a dragon is? I mean, it could have been a huge 16 foot lizard that could breathe ice and fire, or it could have been a a medium sized lizard, like a monitor lizard or something that had a bad report. Afterall, unicorns were actually a bad report of an extinct species of rhino! Some insects have the ability to xreate a burning fluid thing, there could have been a lizard that did the same thing... Now, back to the ice topic, I don't think they could have done that. They could have had a wierd organisim that created like liquid oxygen or something like that.. But I'm an optimist. I like to think of things with an open mind... Oh well..-reply by Deefan

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 04:31 PM

How did they come to the conclusion of dragons being able to breathe ice or fire?

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 06:48 PM

Uh... first of all I dont think dragons ever existed. At least, not the dragons that 'breathe' fire and 'ice.' The only thing I think they would probably breathe is air. And nothing more. If dragons could breathe fire, their insides would get bad and overheated. Where would the fire come from, anyway? Their body temperature would not be that high, they dont have an indoor heating unit, they dont have any gas supply but natural gas from their rear end.

If they breathed ice, within 10 seconds they would probably be frozen to death, and I doubt they have an icemaker in them. What if people could fly? Lets research that shall we?

Just because you're researching a certain topic doesnt mean its real, or has occured, or anything like that. The purpose of researching is to see if something HAS existed. Not if it still exists.

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Posted 04 June 2011 - 02:57 AM

Wow, y'all are funny.XD Dragons don't have to be real, and they don't have to be fake. But they are a part of history; every civilization we know of has some sort of dragon in its mythology. In a way, mythology is also history. The things that happen in the stories may not be real, but the crazy guys who came up with them are. As for researching dragons, I do that extensively, since I'm trying to write a fictional book fearturing them, and I want to have some mythological basis. It's obvious they didn't exist anywhere but our imaginations since there haven't been any remains found, but it's more fun that way! I get to make up stuff and mix it with stuff a Roman made up thousands of years ago, and the result is an AWESOME huge flying reptile that can burn your head off!!XD Great stuff for books!

You asked about races. It depends which "world" you're in, whether German mythology or in a video game, or book. But there are some basic species: Westerns Easterns, Frost, Drakes, Fairy Dragons, Hydras, Knuckers, Salamanders, Basilisks, Sea Serpents, Wyverns, Amplitheres, Cockatrices, and Lindworms. Even this long list branches off into different religions and what not. There are also those that are like Gods, have problems and think like us, or are monsters. In short, the possibilities are endless. I love dragons!!:D

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 12:48 PM

Well, as much as I don't believe "real dragons" ever existed, I always find it entertaining to come up with hypothesis on mythical phenomena. Fire breathing could rather easily be explained by the dragon creating a flammable substance out of oil within its body and collecting it in a sac, which then could be spat out along with a spark creating mechanism (grinding of teeth, etc..)

Ice breathing would really have to depend on what you mean by "ice breathing". If you mean if the dragon will spit out chunks of ice as its attack, then I'd say he'd just get killed and/or made fun of by other dragons. If you mean it spews out a liquid that would freeze things on contact, then it becomes more realistic (for the lack of a better word). It could be in liquid form, whereby nitrogen from the atmosphere is collected, compressed, and chilled via refrigerator-like mechanism, and stored in a well insulated sac. It could also be an extremely frigid air (also via refrigerator-like mechanism) that is blown out that can chill/freeze things instantly.

This of course is based on non-magical dragons. Since dragons might as well have been magical if they existed, then my first two paragraphs are thrown out the window and replaced by a single word "magic".




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