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[Forbez]

I hear this word alot, but never really knew what it meant. So I found out. And this is what I got.

Genocide:

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The deliberate destruction of an entire race or nation. The Holocaust conducted by the Nazis in Germany and the Rwandan genocide are examples of attempts at genocide.

Never knew it was such a big word. I always thought it was to do with the bible. But I guess i'm wrong.

[Plenoptic]

Genesis, is a book in the Bible, which might be what you were thinking of. Genocide really isn't much of a word you probably don't want to hear on the news. Yes the Holocaust was an attempt of genocide and it's really wrong. People that try to take out a certain race or nation or group or religion, or whatever shouldn't be on this world. Just because people are different doesn't mean they should be taken from the Earth. If they felt that way towards your type or group or whatever, you probably wouldn't like it very much either.

[salamangkero]

Oh. So if I just up and poisoned a thousand civilians within a 2 km radius from our house and these civilians ae quite varied on all aspects like religion, race, color and philosophies, it will not count as a genocide? II have always been under the impression that genocide meant killing people. Lots of people. Ugh, this be the curse of the discombobulated mind.

On a side note, I once heard this joke:
A: If I'm the President of US, I'd kill all the Jews and one clown.
B: Why the clown?
A: See, nobody cares about the Jews!

[Dakafall]

salamangkero that will count as genocide im pretty sure.... I think all mass killings of people equals genocide, i dont think there are certin requirements.....

[Kioku]

Everyone seems to forget about Saddam's genocide attempts and tries to make it out as if though Iraq was Candy Land for the kurds for some reason. Genocide happens for a lot of reasons, whether it be economic or religious. Hitler kind of just played into the anti-semitic feelings everyone had at the time. The more that I think about it, the Jewish people have really been hated on and still are. That's the world, though. Oh, well.

[ChargerFanMatt]

Dakafall, on Dec 27 2006, 01:59 PM, said:

salamangkero that will count as genocide im pretty sure.... I think all mass killings of people equals genocide, i dont think there are certin requirements.....

No, genocide is mass murder with the specific intent of wiping out a certain race or religion. As mentioned, the most famous examples are the Holocaust, the Rwanda conflict, and Saddam using chemical WMDs on the Kurds. But there is also what many people consider to be a genocide occuring right now in Darfur. As many as 400,000 people have been killed there since 2003.

[salamangkero]

ChargerFanMatt, on Dec 29 2006, 12:58 PM, said:

No, genocide is mass murder with the specific intent of wiping out a certain race or religion.

Ahh, I see. So if I said, "Rarr, I wanna kill a thousand females," or "Let's go smash the skulls of a thousand Catholics," or even, "One CEO, stabbity-stab, two CEO's, stabbity-stab, three..." it'd be genocide. On the other hand, if I just said, "I want to kill a million bystanders," or, "Let's bomb the local stadium," or, "Toss a coin. Heads, you die. Tail, you toss again," simply counts as ordinary, non-exciting, flat gray and boring mass murder.

However, what if I said, "I wanna kill a thousand idiots," or, "I'll kill every female in our neighborhood," or even, "Burn, baby! Burn!" in its most literal sense, does that count as genocide?

All this is a kinda roundabout way of asking, "How specific should the specific intent be to determine whether it is genocide or nothing more than an ordinary, non-exciting, flat gray and boring mass murder?"

[rsf]

A little off topic, but in my english teacher asked the class for words that instigate a lot of emotion. I said genocide, and half of the class had no clue what it was. Then when they found out they thought I was some sort of psycho for thinking of that word first.

So you weren't alone in not knowing what it meant.

[OneWhoListens]

I think that most mass murdering endsup as some form of genocide. Few people want to, or have the ability to, wipe out every person in the world. They end up selecting. Whether it is a specific naition, religious group, political party, or whatever, the concept is still the same and constitutes genocide.

[johnsmith]

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I think that most mass murdering endsup as some form of genocide. Few people want to, or have the ability to, wipe out every person in the world. They end up selecting. Whether it is a specific naition, religious group, political party, or whatever, the concept is still the same and constitutes genocide.

I can't really understand what/why you wrote such a thing. Genocide IS the systematic killing of a certain race/nation...

What matters is the hypocritical attitude of many countries which have commited racial extermination in the past. Instead of just acknowledging the mistakes of the past, thus making sure it is never reiterated, they just refuse to make the truth come to the surface...

Examples are many but I for one am concerned with Turkey in particular and their armenian and pontiac race murders...Other examples are countries in Africa which have commited atrocities and still can't seem to understand what impact they had..

The most profound and controversial issue is how USA has helped all these mass murders (actively or not)...I will not press the issue cause I know that many people in here Are Americans and they will throw their propaganda against me...

Some Links for follow-ups...

http://news.bbc.co.u...rope/102803.stm
http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.php?titl...menian_Genocide
http://www.armenian-genocide.org/
http://afrocubaweb.c...hangenocide.htm
http://en.wikipedia....wandan_Genocide

Also, one good link, again coming from wikipedia is this :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide

One great blog post about the american genocides is this :
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/2004/...used-to-it.html


I don't want you to believe all these things...just opening our minds is one really big step from a simple forum...

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