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[tricky77puzzle]

TypoMage, on Feb 5 2007, 05:33 PM, said:

I do not like how stealing flash is so easy. I mean people do not even ask for permission anymore. It is so easy! I mean Cmon! I mean all you need to is get Firefox and boom steal anyone hard work! I some people like the people who made Ebaumsworld, just steal all of there content. I have tried to ask the creators if I could use there animations but they do not answer me so I take it. But it is the thought that counts right? I have heard something that protects it your site content from people like that is this true? Well I do not like how all sites are the same, with the same content and everything. People need to get original content.

Just out of interest, how exactly do they "steal" these files? Is it just a simple right-click and view source, looking for "embed" tags? If that is the case, you could put up a lot of phony embed tags so that if they try to do a simple view source, they'll see about 250 embed tags. To make this method really work, though, you need to put all of them in different places, and "encrypt" the file names. (That is, rename them so that they looke like "s0fjf2o8yd.swf" or something.)

Sure, stealing is wrong, but nothing is deprived. It's not even copyright infringement unless you plagiarize it.

[thrillerboy]

Stealing is wrong..... But, it differs IMO not all people steal and publish it straight away...... Some people steal to get the ideas...... Some designers are generous to mail you the source code, and some are not....... So, as u have to get the idea about how they did you got to see their source......

If you r not gonna steal anything..... It doesn't mean your work won't be stolen........ Life with life........

But, don't steal and publish as it is, I would at-least say this.

[Live-Dimension]

Let's clean up a few facts in this thread, eh?

No right-click blocking script will ever stop someone even half-dedicated to stealing content. Why? It's so easy to get around. I've got a Firefox addon called "Web Developer Toolbar". Awesome little thing being a developer. I can use it to control javascript - which of course controls the "right-click block".

Also, "embedding" the file in php as another poster pointed out won't do a thing either - Why? Php outputs html - not php code. It outputs html or whatever other format the developer wants it to. Since it would output the tags required to embed the .swf inside which I can then "steal" this provides no use.

You can password-protect the SWF. I don't know how well this will work however. In reality, there's no way to really stop people stealing - especially without compromising on user experience. This is with everything - from real life, art, programs/music, swf files. Sort of a law of nature I guess. A quote (no clue where from) "The more and more you secure your system, the more you'll end up being surprised by some back door you'd of never thought off".

Essentially - it's pointless to try. Do a little bit as the majority won't bother and move on if there's obstacles, but it's impossible to stop someone determined.

edit: You can spend all year "securing" your swf file, but there'll still be a way around it. Isn't it better to focus on the users who you provide for, rather then lower their experience of the flash meaning more upset clients, plus try fight something which is impossible to win? There's just no sense to that, and I know which I'd pick.

Edited by Live-Dimension, 24 May 2008 - 04:03 PM.

[iGuest]

Stealing for learning is not really stealing. Except if your going to make profit out of it or publish it and take credit for it.

-reply by xmido

[tricky77puzzle]

Live-Dimension, on May 24 2008, 11:58 AM, said:

Let's clean up a few facts in this thread, eh?

No right-click blocking script will ever stop someone even half-dedicated to stealing content. Why? It's so easy to get around. I've got a Firefox addon called "Web Developer Toolbar". Awesome little thing being a developer. I can use it to control javascript - which of course controls the "right-click block".

Also, "embedding" the file in php as another poster pointed out won't do a thing either - Why? Php outputs html - not php code. It outputs html or whatever other format the developer wants it to. Since it would output the tags required to embed the .swf inside which I can then "steal" this provides no use.

You can password-protect the SWF. I don't know how well this will work however. In reality, there's no way to really stop people stealing - especially without compromising on user experience. This is with everything - from real life, art, programs/music, swf files. Sort of a law of nature I guess. A quote (no clue where from) "The more and more you secure your system, the more you'll end up being surprised by some back door you'd of never thought off".

Essentially - it's pointless to try. Do a little bit as the majority won't bother and move on if there's obstacles, but it's impossible to stop someone determined.

edit: You can spend all year "securing" your swf file, but there'll still be a way around it. Isn't it better to focus on the users who you provide for, rather then lower their experience of the flash meaning more upset clients, plus try fight something which is impossible to win? There's just no sense to that, and I know which I'd pick.

Of course there's no use trying. But if there's no harm, why not go a little further, eh? Most people, if they don't want your specific flash file, will move on. If they're that determined, then get an IP logger or something.

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Stealing for learning is not really stealing. Except if your going to make profit out of it or publish it and take credit for it.

-reply by xmido

Stealing for learning is considered fair use. And as long as you don't use it for anything else and use proper accreditation, what can they do to you?

If you take credit for it, that's not stealing either, except for the actual act of ripping it off the website. It's called "copyright infringement"...

[iGuest]

Replying to KubiLol anti right click is so easy to avoid lol all you have to do is right click says denied or w/e then hold the left and right let of left then right click and it happens lol easy stuff.

[dragonfang00]

stealing is stealing.. copyright infringement is stealing.. piracy is stealing...

as long as you will not use the content for public viewing, like for learning purposes only, then ask and tell the author first.. or you may find yourself stealing even if you don't know it..

[Nabb]

If you're somewhat smart, it isn't hard to prevent someone from 'stealing' a file of yours. It's only a few extra lines of code (except it fails if they directly embed from your website )

Although there's nothing really wrong with this type of 'stealing'. Just put your name all over the file, and put some ads (e.g. mochiads, gamejacket), and now everyone who 'steals' your game is boosting your publicity and earnings you money

[fakenstein666]

This is old post bu i will replay anyway.
Disable right click:
This metod will not work!!
Look at here https://addons.mozil...n/righttoclick/

Do embed so embed trick or use php:
Why this?
Not working sorry.
Look at here: https://addons.mozil...downloadhelper/.

Use ip tracker:
Bu i'm smarter again i will use proxy!
Also look here:https://addons.mozil...proxy-standard/
And built in with download manager:https://addons.mozil...addon/flashgot/

Using wathermark:
This is the only and best solution.
But your whatermark will look ugly.

And word for rembering:
Taking other peoples content form their websites without their license is crime but it's a not a stealing, it's freedom baby.
Piracy rocks forever!

Edited by moderator, 12 May 2012 - 11:47 AM.