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[vipul20044]

Atleast in the country where i hail from that is India, i can say this without a shadow of doubt that here studies have become more of a minimum Qualification rather than doing something special
TO take an example, people all over the world prefer to do an MBA at a later stage of life when they have an experience enough to boost their managerial skills.
But here it is like, MBA has been downtrodden to a minimum Qualification as in, once you are done with Graduation, you will have to go for an MBA or else you will be left lurking with low salary and an average job.

True to it, that an experience can never be compared with anything because being practical counts more than bookish knowledge

But i often find myself in this fix that what shall i do?
Shall i go for a job as of now or shall i go for further studies

And to this date i didn't find an answer

[Johnny]

I'm in the US....I graduated high school a year ago, I haven't gone to college yet. Things are going okay for me, but it'd probably look better on a resume if I had more qualifications. But right now my job is more important to me. I just really need the money.

Guess it's a personal thing here.

[Laurie]

After being considered disabled due to being bipolar I found myself in the situation that my income did not depend on what I chose to do with my time. So now what? If money didn't matter, what would you spend your time doing? I did get my Bachelors Degree in Business from AIU Online. Now I spend my time at the computer. I intend to become more physically active since it is now spring and easier to want to be outside. Somedays I just dont do much of anything and others I am driven to improve myself and my lifestyle. But what would be an improvement? I am not choosing between job or studies because now I am guided by more of thinking of what will benefit me towards achieving what I want. I am stuck at the point of having to define what it is that I want. Until I do, I will just spend my time at whatever appeals to me at the moment.

[FolkRockFan]

Here in the U.S., four-year (Bachelor's) degrees seem to be losing their value. The phrase "advanced degree" seems to be coming up in more job descriptions/ads/et cetera. I've basically resigned myself to *having* to pursue a Master's (if not a stinkin' Doctorate) just to make sure that I'm not "under-educated."

IMO, this society (can't speak for other societies/cultures as I've never been part of them) values the piece of paper too much. I understand the need to have qualifications to do certain jobs, yeah. I wouldn't want an 18-year-old with a high school diploma trying to perform brain surgery or anything like that. But honestly, I think that life experience should count for a bit more than it currently does. Formal education is important, but it's not the *only* valuable asset that we working stiffs have to offer

[chrisnield]

Studies are esstential I think, I'd say its a lot more important that earning a bit of money but the important think to remember is, if you didn't study then you probably wouldn't be able to get a decent job. I like to think of it this way: the more you study, the more money you can make

Saying that, Im going to study in college in September and I just got a job, did my first day today but this is the holidays so I guess that sort of makes it ok. Though I made sure that my working hours would flex around my college hours, I put college before the job and luckily Halfords agreed

[Abct]

I strongly feel that these days school can be a benefit only if you are in a certain field. For example, engineering and medical studies are important if you want to get into that field. Other fields, such as business, are largely self taught and come from work experience. Just look at Michael Dell, and the others who followed. Therefore, I believe it strongly depends on where you want to take your career and life.

I read that Bill Nye started off as a mechanical engineer and began his entertainment career at the same time. Engineer by day, tv guy by night. That takes some dedication.

[androomidaa]

Abct, on Aug 21 2007, 11:01 PM, said:

I strongly feel that these days school can be a benefit only if you are in a certain field. For example, engineering and medical studies are important if you want to get into that field. Other fields, such as business, are largely self taught and come from work experience. Just look at Michael Dell, and the others who followed. Therefore, I believe it strongly depends on where you want to take your career and life.

I read that Bill Nye started off as a mechanical engineer and began his entertainment career at the same time. Engineer by day, tv guy by night. That takes some dedication.

yah thats right. study is important but you need skils to perform better. i dont think someone dumbass with a phd will ever succeed on their field. you need your education and your skills. you need to know a lot about what you do and what you love to do.

im not looking for a phd. i would go for a 3 year polytechnic degree and get down my *bottom* on work which i like to do.

[heavensounds]

I think that eventhough globalization is wokring its thing preety good right now, there still are differences between countries and it is very intersting to hear that the situation in India as the first poster described it, is exatcly the same as here in my country - Slovenia, Europe. We also have the very same problem which makes it ncessary that you have an MBA college or something similar to have a great job plus there is also a problem with social sciencies, for which there are hardly any jobs left here and it is very hard to get employed.

Well as for the question Job vs. Studies: hm, I think that some of both...you should work, you should get practical experiences but you should never ever quit college for that reason - it is just stupid, because you probably do not think at working in that part-time firm till the rest of your life - think of these part-time jobs as sort of experiences you need in order to get a real job one day when you do actualy finish the college!

In United States as one of the posters mentioned, it is easier to get a descent job as far as i know - there are many more opportunities and if you are good, companies there will make use of you.. Am I right or is this just another wide-spread crap?

Best whises to you all..

[satyaparija]

vipul20044, on Mar 25 2007, 12:00 AM, said:

Atleast in the country where i hail from that is India, i can say this without a shadow of doubt that here studies have become more of a minimum Qualification rather than doing something special
TO take an example, people all over the world prefer to do an MBA at a later stage of life when they have an experience enough to boost their managerial skills.
But here it is like, MBA has been downtrodden to a minimum Qualification as in, once you are done with Graduation, you will have to go for an MBA or else you will be left lurking with low salary and an average job.

True to it, that an experience can never be compared with anything because being practical counts more than bookish knowledge

But i often find myself in this fix that what shall i do?
Shall i go for a job as of now or shall i go for further studies

And to this date i didn't find an answer

If your sole interest is to get a better job,better career growth option,then higher education will surely help.because sooner r later it ll pay off. Higher education will put you in you better position to market yourself...But sometimes irrelevant higher education may be simply a waste of time..It ll give you a good head start....
Nevertheless higher education is always bookish and ve a little similarity to real world situations unless you want to be a research scientist..So, practical experince ll count much more if you want to be in fields like sales,marketing..
If you want to money early you may jump to a job,but you ve to prove yourself there in order to get a head start....

[Hirishiolo]

Hi!



I am a university student and a worker...well the first thing is that my situation is not simple...It's really very difficult for me study and work at the same time.I cannot go to university lessons because are at the same time of my work... and you can comprehend that only going to lessons some exam are possibly....


but the question is at this time is better working or studing^???

[ochibichan]

I think working is better. I've been studying for the past fourteen years of my life and I still have three more years to go before I can get a proper job. I decide to get a job first after I've gotten my diploma and then continue to get a bachelor degree after a few years of working. That way, my parents don't even need to pay my school fees anymore. Being independent is great

Edited by ochibichan, 26 January 2008 - 11:14 AM.

[weimond]

I have the impression that people here gives more importance to your practical experience.. studies are sort of "secondary"... I can understand this as they want someone that can start being prodcutive from the first month and also have proven abilities.. I would advice you to hold on for a while before deciding to go for an MBA, maybe your company will be keen to pay for it (or at least part of it) once you demonstrate your skills..

vipul20044, on Mar 25 2007, 05:30 AM, said:

Atleast in the country where i hail from that is India, i can say this without a shadow of doubt that here studies have become more of a minimum Qualification rather than doing something special
TO take an example, people all over the world prefer to do an MBA at a later stage of life when they have an experience enough to boost their managerial skills.
But here it is like, MBA has been downtrodden to a minimum Qualification as in, once you are done with Graduation, you will have to go for an MBA or else you will be left lurking with low salary and an average job.

True to it, that an experience can never be compared with anything because being practical counts more than bookish knowledge

But i often find myself in this fix that what shall i do?
Shall i go for a job as of now or shall i go for further studies

And to this date i didn't find an answer

[threepach]

i feel more important question for you is what do you want?
you have to be very specific about what YOU want not what OTHERS intend to do or doing or ask you to do or expect you to do or ...
always try to have long term plan and be focus on what YOU want.
see what you are good at.
secondly, go to business that you are sure you will earn MONEY form there.

so

1-understand YOURSELF
2- focus focus focus try try try try ....

[Ivan2000bd]

yes this topic is quite complecated ? i feel it need to be researced . i will answer you as soon as i know it.

[tatati]

Being good at what you do is best, if you have a job that you honor you probably spend time doing research and planning, that's studying
If you are at school getting a bachelor's degree try and get an internship job, they are very valued and if you are taking subjects wich has to do with your work routine, you can bring your expertise to the classroom, some students know more about a subject than some teachers, it happened at my telephony class, a student trapped one of my teachers with a question about NGN telephony centrals and the teacher was rather outdated on the subject hehe And theyre mostly part time.
Studying is essential to be on top of your game, a doctor had to study new drugs and techniques, so he can diagnose better and effectively cure some patients, same thing with programming languages and frameworks, there's always new stuff coming up that gets the job done faster and better and you have to study them to get on with things.

[contactskn]

vipul20044, on Mar 24 2007, 06:30 PM, said:

Atleast in the country where i hail from that is India, i can say this without a shadow of doubt that here studies have become more of a minimum Qualification rather than doing something special
TO take an example, people all over the world prefer to do an MBA at a later stage of life when they have an experience enough to boost their managerial skills.
But here it is like, MBA has been downtrodden to a minimum Qualification as in, once you are done with Graduation, you will have to go for an MBA or else you will be left lurking with low salary and an average job.

True to it, that an experience can never be compared with anything because being practical counts more than bookish knowledge

But i often find myself in this fix that what shall i do?
Shall i go for a job as of now or shall i go for further studies

And to this date i didn't find an answer

 Dear friend in this context I would like to comment that it depends upon the type of job you are striving for, what I mean to say is if you are striving for an administrative job ( IAS or IPS) , or if you are going for a job like of a professor etc. then obvious increment in your studies is a must. Otherwise what I think just don’t waste your time and give it a kick start i.e; your job. And your experience will count much than your degrees out there. For example my cousin who is an electronics engineer is now working as a software engineer. As this field is different from his usual studies but just because of his vast knowledge on it he got the aforesaid. So that’s it dear friend. Right stroke at right time, and you will be at the stage where you were dreaming of. 

[mbafactory]

You are from India, so am I. Quite related to your query, I myself am persuing MBA at one of the top 10 B-Schools in India and to answer your query, I have a simple answer; "Go by your own priorities, not the flow of environment." Do not think about any perceived trend, any already set path rather think what you want from your life, what is that you would like to see yourself within next 2-3 years, then within next 5 years and decide accordingly. I worked in the Industry for 3 years, then enjoyed life for 1 full year and now am here, doing what I thought wayback during my graduation!
So it depends person to person, your conditions, your priorities and opportunities you encounter. Follow your heart- because as a decision maker for yourself it should be your own take always!
As far as the outer environment is concerned, do not worry about the global recession phenomenon, India has its own consumer market for coming years, and if you have a fire you will be able to cherish your dreams very well.

Hope this will help you make a good decision. All the best.

[kplow1986]

depend on situation, if u get a better job , probaly u will not study.
but study more useful , because you can gain knowledge to make yours work good

that why i studying now, 3rd years in university, half years remaining to graduate

[leeindia]

vipul20044, on Mar 25 2007, 12:00 AM, said:

Atleast in the country where i hail from that is India, i can say this without a shadow of doubt that here studies have become more of a minimum Qualification rather than doing something special
TO take an example, people all over the world prefer to do an MBA at a later stage of life when they have an experience enough to boost their managerial skills.
But here it is like, MBA has been downtrodden to a minimum Qualification as in, once you are done with Graduation, you will have to go for an MBA or else you will be left lurking with low salary and an average job.

True to it, that an experience can never be compared with anything because being practical counts more than bookish knowledge

But i often find myself in this fix that what shall i do?
Shall i go for a job as of now or shall i go for further studies

And to this date i didn't find an answer

I am also from India and have a work experience in a software firm. Now I am pursuing an MBA degree from a reputed institution here. From my experience, I should say that its always good to have a work experience and then go for an MBA degree but its not always necessary to have experiene for it. All depends on the analytical skills one has and how focused and dedicated he is. The only thing is that the college you are trying to go should be a good one.

[y4nzi]

Its important to get a good balance of both, and it ultimately comes down to opportunity. If you find your dream job without going to University, of course you'd take it. Or if the career you want requires a degree, then you'd go.
In the end though you need both... you need the practical skills and the knowledge. Whether going to College is the way to achieve that knowledge or learning "on the go" with jobs is how you want to do it, is up to you.
Personally I went to college and am now in grad school. I work part time because I need the money as well. Hopefully, when I graduate, it'll all be worth it

[Ike_ve]

It's not the same in every place/family. Some families have their own buisinesses, so they can work on it, that way, No studies is better. But if you don't have any family buisiness or don't have anyone to get you a job without studdies, you MUST STUDY even if you don't want to.

[k_nitin_r]

Hi!

The kind of education you require depends on the line of work that you are in. If you are a medical doctor, you can bet they're not going to practice until you get your degree and pass the licensing exam. For a graphic designer, education doesn't really matter - he/she just needs a really good portfolio and a couple of good clients to be able to scale the heights.

Irrespective of what you do, experience does make you more desirable for a firm. The questions they normally ask are, "Does he/she have a proven track record? Has he/she done something similar? Will he/she stick around long enough?"

Regards,
Nitin Reddy

[Plenoptic]

I would say here it depends on what kind of vocation you plan to pursue and how much of a career you intend to build. I would say for most paths, a better education is necessary. i understand taking time off. Sure there are other jobs that do not require more than a high school education but, these are limited and tend to come and go. I am not counting professional sports because that is different although I would still recommend an education. Most people are able to pick up an internship or co-op job with college so they are at least gaining some sort of money while in college or you can have a part time job to hold you over. If money is an issue there are student loans one can take out. Most of them are no interest and you are not required to pay any money on them until after you are out of school. This should normally help for one to continue studies and then they can jump right out of college. Of course you would have to start paying off the loans but they normally give you a lot of time to do so in addition.

[puneye]

Definitely, all people have to study before doing jobs. so I also recommend to study before doing jobs. It is better to know something to do something about that.
First get skill and make a good career if you don't have skill you have to do very lower level job because of your study level. But I live in Nepal, not good studying colleges. But I am gonna to take MBA.