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Suicide Bombers... Profession By Choice?


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#1 velma

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 09:40 AM

HEllo.

Like the title suggests why do you think that suicide bombers do what they do?

I have heard of bombers having this crazy belief that if they destroy "enemy" countries then they are helping in protecting their country and making her prouder :lol: .... Why?

And It isnt like they are alll old men but young boys as yound as 13-17 are doing this. We speak of the younger generations being the better generatin then why is an alarming rate of young men doing this?

Even women and girls are doing this..... It promotes terrorism rather than help end issues.

Dont they understand?

Tell me what you think ?

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 01:24 PM

I don't know if it's by choice and I'm sure it is not a profession. I mean, if you are educated from child to do something, you probably will end doing it, because there is no other life for you except that. You are living only to get to that specific moment in which you must blow yourself with everybody near. Or so they have told you... I mean, you're trained as f you were in the army but you're trained to die and kill before you even know how they're manipulating you. So probably is a mixture of the frustration of seeing their countries being attacked by occident and the inability of escape to the fate someone has written for them beforehand.

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 03:19 PM

In my opinion, it is fanaticism taken to the extreme.

Let's face the gentler aspects first; patriotism, for one, as been regarded as a positive thing. However, even as such, it has a darker side, that is, it undermines world peace/unity for the sake of a nation's progress.

Taken to the extreme, we can have various reasons for suicide bombing. Ranging from the relatively tame and simple psychological disorders to war stratagems to a "worthy" cause. (I do not mean to insult those who plan on suicide bombing by putting quotes in "worthy"; it's just that what's worthy to one may be foolish to another. It's a relativity thing) Ultimately, though, I guess the point of suicide bombing is gaining attention and getting a message across.

The 9-11 bombing, for one, must've been a message that says, "There is a grave threat to America and this threat is real. Take this threat seriously and be not complacent nor rest on your laurels."

There has been, recently in our country, a hostage crisis. Unlike suicide bombing, there were no casualties. Au contraire, the entire shindig ended peacefully. The hostage-taker used the attention he got to expose corruption in his home province along with outlining other ills that plague our beloved nation. After he had said his piece, he peacefully surrendered. Now, what's sad is that the media and, in general, everybody, focused on the crime of hostage-taking. People were taking action like filing suits against him, psychiatrists were "mending" the minds of the "traumatized" children (who left the place smiling and rallied for the hostage-taker's release days after) but nobody even paid attention to the things he brought to light, namely, corruption and scandal.

I suppose, then, that the bitterest thing that could happen to suicide bombing is people ignoring the message and focusing on the wrong and obscenely superficial things. It means, in all angles, a life wasted on absolutely nothing.

P.S. I don't support non-war suicide bombing that involves collateral damage (i.e. loss of innocent lives). If it were just a plane slamming into a vast desert, a polar icecap or Mount Rushmore then I wouldn't mind at all :lol:

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 04:37 PM

I think its just part of their beliefs. They believe that their enemy is the devil, and killing just one of them will give them eternal life with however many girls waiting for them. Its sad that they do believe that as it ends their lives before it really begins. I remember my dad having to explain to me after the 9/11 attack how the people flying the plains hadn't jumped out of them. I had thought nobody would ever have killed themselves to do that, I know now why they did, and pray that other terrorists will learn not to.

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 04:58 PM

Yea, I think that it is a part of their beliefs that make them to do it. They are taught things since they are children that giving their life for the cause is good and they will have a better life after they die and things. I don't really think it's a profession, because it would be the worst one to get into. The only act you do in your job would be die, and then after that, you are dead, so you get no pay for it... I don't know.

I think that some people are probably forced to do it, while others really believe it's the right thing to do, and then there are other people that coerce (I think that's not spelled right lol) people into doing it for their own reasons. My dad was trying to explain it to me too... but it's hard to understand why some people can think so totally different that me that something like killing yourself so that you can be praised by god is right... I don't think their are many reasons I would want to die unless it meant to save someone precious to me. And even then, I don't think I could kill someone, unless it was an extreme choice of if I didn't they would kill me or my family.

Edited by midnightvamp, 02 April 2007 - 04:59 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2007 - 10:40 AM

Suicide bombers are a case of fanatism gone beyond limits,the bombers are brainwashed beyond all comprehension and really speaking,the bomber and the recruiter are equally to blame.the bomber because he didnt have the capacity to use his reason and do he right thing,but the real blame goes to the employers who use them as mere puppets to carry out their undertakings.they are just too cowardly to fight their own battles so they turn to the unemployed,frustrated and guliable yourth,who can easily be manipulated by their oratory powers.It isnt really the 17 year old who lost his parents in a skirmish and led life of the streets fault ,but the fault of the warped few who corrupt them

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 12:41 AM

For some of them, it is part of their beliefs, as they seem to believe they will be a martyr if they blow themselves up in front of a popular "opposing faction" place. But it could be said that their "leader" or "employer" were the ones that were yelling out the orders, and the employee or "puppet" was merely carrying out their wishes. To be honest, i dont know why some people call it a 'profession', but it clearly isnt, and could be compared to "euthanasia", which is another suicide type method.

But in the end, it can be either someone that is frustrated in life and turns to something like this, some may actually believe in what the leaders/employers/etc are saying, or 'sacrifice' for the good of their 'religion' rather.

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 08:42 AM

Yes I agree with many of you it is fanaticism taken to the extreme. And it is part of their beliefs but only theirs as I don't blame brainwashed child no one can however we should found the real source of this evil and that are those man who are interpreting kur'an in such hostile way. I have one Muslim friend and asked him will he ever do that. And he replied to me that he wouldn't because he is educated and knows better, and he reads kuran and doesn't find anything about such way of warfare. However I still consider Islam as aggresive religion as we don't see any Europeans I am considering Christians nor we see some Americans both USA Canada and LAtin America going to the Middle East and sticking bomb to his or hers chests and then blowing himself. It is just nonsense, and doesn't produce any higher good just that more people would die. The only way to stop this is to find masterminds behind these operations and then maybe just maybe such terrorist attacks might stop. As if they are not imprisoned or two feet under ground they will find new ones and then brainwashed them.

And it is certainly not a profession however people are getting paied to do so that is their families are recieving payment as a help for missing family member. Hamas is usually doing so when recruting new sucide attackers.

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 06:34 AM

This suicide bombing stems from a person's faith and way of life. Many cultures believe in this practice or have believed in it at one time. In WWII, there were Japanese suicide bombers who flew their plane directly into their enemy. And of course today you have religious extremists blowing themselves up in marketplaces in the Middle East.

This is definately a crazy practice in our eyes - though the people doing this see it as an honor. People are taught that dying for their country and beliefs is an honorable thing to do. And as such, they will be rewarded in the afterlife.

There have been many reports that Al Qaeda tells their recruits and bombers that they will be rewarded with 72 virgins, remain young forever, and live in paradise. I guess this offer would be a very enticing offer to some men.

Though people link suicide bombing today solely with people of Middle Eastern descent it is important to remember that there have been many suicide bombers of every culture.

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 11:13 AM

Well there is difference between Japanese and Muslims making suicide attack.

Firstly, Japanese were attacking solely military targets and their suicide attack was in fact defence of their home country and futile prevention of Americans overruning them in the pacific. Also it was considered as honer. And attacking military targets is really different then attacking innocent people like in market places and children in the school buses.

Also there is large difference when you are defending you country and when you are making suicide attack on foreign grounds. Actually one more thing is important as what do you attack because terrororist are usually that is always attacking society targets and not military. However Japs were always attacking military targets. And you youself said why are they doing it for some 72 virgins and so on. It is not questianable why are they called fanatics.




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