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[musicfreak]

Hey Guys im New im Mark***

(Based on Many true storys)

So im sitting home about 6PM thinking of a way to get online (now days without the internet is no fun) and i talking to my dad about getting a DSL Service, and my brother goes like "Well if wireless exist and we have laptops that works with wireless internet at school why dont you just get a High quality wireless antena?"(im not sure if i should say Brand names here but i will anyways) and i went to FRY'S (Computer Strore) and i was talking to this Networking guy and he was telling me about this great USB high speed Dish antena (hacking technology) and i wasnt very pleased with it due to the fact that i was running 1.0MBPS so i returned it and got a me a Belkin Wireless card and a Long distance D-Link wireless antena and so i was trying it all over my house moving my desktop all the time arround and so i finally found a network Whos name was "Linksys"(very usual all around) and it wasnt encrypted as WEP so i was online now but it was very rare to connect and i was using it for 3 months but finally 3 days ago i dediced to move the antena out the windows to c what i get (my computer is now in the garage and internet does not go out anymore) and i refreshed the connection once....got the same Twice ...and i got "05Z404704981" that network and now im finally online hoping for a better future running 18.0MBPS and im good to go cuz it never goes out and i can play online and do my projects cuz i got tons of web projects which you'll guys will enjoy!

Im Mark Again have a nice one!

[TikiPrincess]

Hehe, I did that for a little while at my apartment before I moved into my house. My husband's parents had AOL, so he used that as his provider since he didn't have to pay for it no matter where he moved. The problem was that he had to share the access with two other connections: his parents and his sister. So if one of the others was on, we couldn't connect to the internet. Even though his parents didn't use the internet that often, they felt that since they're paying the bill, they should be able to connect whenever they want, so they got first dibs, which meant that our access was limited to after 9-10PM at night! Then we had to try to log on before his sister. Did I mention the fact that it's AOL and not even AOL for broadband! It totally sucked. Then we got new neighbors in the apartment next door. I was typing up a paper for school on my laptop and it did the autocheck for wireless access for some reason and I had signal! A really strong signal too! I was sooooooo happy! About a month or so later I baked cookies, brought them over and asked if it would be alright if I tapped into their wireless. I figured it was the least I could do since I was already using it. They said it was totally fine with them, so I didn't have to feel guilty about it anymore. Then my laptop got sick and pretty much died.
But now I'm in a new place. I convinced my husband that we need to stop mooching off his parents and get our own (and better) DSL. I would have gone for cable, but the provider here makes you sign up for both the TV and the internet since too many people know how to hack into the internet line for cable TV. We didn't think cable was a luxury we could afford, so we went with DSL instead.

[truefusion]

Reading the post, i see there was a (very) quick end to convincing your dad (which, by implication, is capable of affording the service that can be provided by an ISP) to get your own Internet service. If you truly love your neighbor as you say you do, then you would stop using their service and get your own. Just 'cause you have the ability to steal—doesn't mean you should. Even if you are not able to afford it, you shouldn't resort to stealing. See, TikiPrincess did a good thing (although she should have done it before using it, and not waited a month): She went over to her neighbors house and asked permission. If i were you, Mark, i would reconsider my actions.

[9block]

I disagree. If you are using the internet for surfing&email and what not... I think it is fine as the other user will never notice and it wont affect them. If you thin you have nice neighbors, you can go over and ask and explain and everything should be fine. however if your downloading movies/pron/music ect and really abusing it, then it is wrong.

You should ask them anyways, or offer to show them how to secure their connection if they allow you to use their secure network. That way no one else can tap in.

[truefusion]

9block, on Aug 5 2007, 06:33 PM, said:

I disagree. If you are using the internet for surfing&email and what not... I think it is fine as the other user will never notice and it wont affect them.

Have you forgotten about e-mail attachments that are quite big? Have you also forgotten about graphic-heavy websites? Did you skip the part where the topic-starter says he uses the connection for playing games online? I find it really hard for the owner of the connection not to feel a loss in speed. Have you ever ran a home-based network before? Someone always gets slowed down if there is more than one user on it. And what if one of the computers get infected with a virus?

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however if your downloading movies/pron/music ect and really abusing it, then it is wrong.

Heh, one of today's most popular things on the internet is doing exactly what is mentioned in this quote. It's neither the smart nor right thing to do, but it's done anyways.

[musicfreak]

truefusion, on Aug 5 2007, 05:16 PM, said:

Reading the post, i see there was a (very) quick end to convincing your dad (which, by implication, is capable of affording the service that can be provided by an ISP) to get your own Internet service. If you truly love your neighbor as you say you do, then you would stop using their service and get your own. Just 'cause you have the ability to steal—doesn't mean you should. Even if you are not able to afford it, you shouldn't resort to stealing. See, TikiPrincess did a good thing (although she should have done it before using it, and not waited a month): She went over to her neighbors house and asked permission. If i were you, Mark, i would reconsider my actions.

hey i would go knock on his door...but i dont know where the connection is comming from and im not fixing to go knock on people's door...i am gonna look stupid...plus i dont think he ever uses it cuz im doing full speed and so so on signal....so if u are not with me about steeling Signal...its ur problem...many people wishes they could get signal...not very people have the ability so THANK you...but what a negative post gosh!

[truefusion]

musicfreak, on Aug 5 2007, 07:59 PM, said:

[1]hey i would go knock on his door...but i dont know where the connection is comming from and im not fixing to go knock on people's door...i am gonna look stupid...[2]plus i dont think he ever uses it cuz im doing full speed and so so on signal....so if u are not with me about steeling Signal...its ur problem...[3:1]many people wishes they could get signal...[3:2]not very people have the ability so THANK you...[4]but what a negative post gosh!

[1]There are ways to find out the location of someone through their IP address. But you've already lost your integrity due to your actions, and are placing more effort in using someone else's connection.
[2]This statement just makes you lose more of your integrity.
[3:1]That doesn't mean one should resort to unjust ways of obtaining it.
[3:2]There are a few factors that come in when people aren't able to get a connection or signal, but you seem to be implying that it's because they can't afford it or because they're limited. If they can't afford it, no worries, it's not something that's needed for one to live like air and food, and refer to [3:1]. If it's because they are limited, then i'm sure their worries aren't on whether or not they can get a connection or signal.
[4]The negativity of a post can vary upon how the reader looks at the post (sometimes due to ones current mood during the reading), therefore it can go either way: positive or negative.

[master_bacarra]

lol I remember one of my former classmates said that she was using her neighbor's connection, much like this one. Honestly, I don't think it's a good thing, but it's more of your neighbor's fault not putting up a security to prevent the usage of the wireless connection by others. On the other end of the spectrum, you could have at least told them about it and that you wish to share a connection (although I doubt they'll let you). But then, truefusion's right, getting your own subscription isn't that hard. Convincing the folks of the perks of using a high-speed connection to do stuff like surfing the internet for assignments, read emails, etc shouldn't be a problem. And if they don't allow you, doesn't give you the right to use other connection without permission. That's not called resourcefulness.

[Watermonkey]

The rule of the law (I'll get back to you guys with the specific court case when I find it.) says if it's in the air, it's fair game. It's the responsibility of the owner of the radio to secure his router and/or signal if he doesn't want others leaching off it. There's no harm in leaving your network open in most cases anyway; it's not like there's a bandwidth usage monthly cap or multiple user cap for most providers. Many people knowingly leave their networks open just to be good Samaritans. It's not "stealing". It's simply using something that's being given to you without question. I don't know of any wireless router that doesn't have encryption ability. It's up to the owner to determine if that encryption is to be put in place. Same goes for the radio being transmitted by satellites. If you have the ability to capture those radio signals, it's up to you to do what you want with them. It's up to the satellite operator(s) or owner(s) to encrypt their content, or not. Watching un-encrypted satellite content does not make me a thief and there's no reason I should give the company whose programming I'm watching a call to inform them I'm viewing unencrypted channels off their sat.

Edited by Watermonkey, 06 August 2007 - 06:02 AM.

[musicfreak]

You guys are nuts...just let it be dont worry about it aint your problem...and if i dont want to go know on his door you're not gonna make me...that doesnt make me a bad person...im aproaching of what sir god gives me and i'll accept it as it is and where it is so i mean i'll use the network for as long as i want to and if they remove the service i wont cry but for now i'll use it all day long baby!