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[allfanged1]

Notice from OpaQue:

I, the founder of trap17, declare that this is one of the most hilarious topics ever made. Members please take your time to read this and do enjoy it. My special thanks to Buff and Velma.

I personally ditest trap17 because of it's clutter, it's impossibility to navigate, and the fact that admins like buffalohelp haven't been banned yet, as he abuses his power to the point of threatening free speech. Trap17 is way to orienated on its appeal, and not it's content, which is what's really important. If you make something flashy but pointless, all your doing is making idiots attracted to shiny things. This is my theory on why Buffalohelp remains on the forum. Also, if this post is deleted, this will just be proving that Trap17 cannot take constructive criticism, and that Buffalohelp is a power-hungry tyrant, bent on the destruction of free speech.
A friend of mine, who had around 600 posts on this forum, said:

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"Just for the record, Trap17 actually was a nice forum that had a relaxed environment before BuffaloHelp showed up. Good job, BuffaloHelp, you ruined a good thing. A lot of the good members also left since you got on the scene. Also, Trap17 users often act like they are in a support group. They complain when the nice police officer says they can't park in handicapped spaces when they are just out for a pack of cigs."

Buffalohelp is not a helpful as he seems, as shown in the attached image. He is actually a tyrant who has a moderation style that Joseph Stalin would have.



PS http://www.biscuitrat.com/archives/2007/07...nna_be_okay.php

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"Well, the happy news is that I finally have a domain (at Dreamhost — you know they rock!) and brand-new hosting. I had a saint’s patience sometimes with Trap17, but I realized a little late that posting on the forums there was no longer as insightful as it used to be — and swiftly became a drag. To top that off, slow support and regular downtime, including one long stretch of database failure as pungent as a dying zebra, broke off our wary relationship forever. And then I found Hippo Hosting; not only did they offer Ruby On Rails (handy in case I want to play with Simplelog), and just enough cushiony space and bandwidth for me to settle into — all at the very reasonable price of $40/yr (you can get your first year at $30 if you hurry!) And their support is fantastic, given what I’m used to. I never thought that a server-update e-mail could make me so happy!"

- biscuitrat

You guys simply need to get your act together. Enough said!

Edited by allfanged1, 09 August 2007 - 09:05 PM.
Added Note tag on OpaQue's request

[BuffaloHelp]

How exactly happened where I am so hated personally here?

Judging by the number of your posts you were not hosted. Which means you are hiding behind another screen name to launch a personal attack on little old me. Otherwise, you are too cowardice to show your true identity fearing my retaliation.

I do not work like that.

To quote the first where it sounds so familiar from one of past messages tells me that you are hiding your identity. If you are related to biscuitrat I am dissapointed that she has some association with you. I am shocked since I gave so much respect to her. Comparing free web hosting and paid web hosting is like comparing fruits and vegetables... it isn't right, it isn't fair. And to judge Trap17 services based on one person, like me, isn't allowing yourself to a wider view. I regret that your anger has narrowed your vision.

Free speech comes with its own responsibility. You can shot "fire!" but can you shout the same in a crowded theatre? Would you take the full responsibility of chaos and public safety just to exercise your freedom of speech? I think not.

Trap17 free web hosting, no ads is not the perfect and far less from the complete hosting solution. However, for those who need free web hosting with no ads Trap17 is a part of a solution. I, including Trap17, have never claimed this is THE place for web hosting. We simply thank each and every member for making Trap17 the internet's popular place for forum and web hosting. ComputingHost is the main provider for all Trap17 hosting members and when a member wishes to graduate to higher reliable hosting solution without any hidden costs may seek out ComputingHost or other web hosting provider. And such as that statement, if you feel this forum is not for you you can seek other places that agrees with your point of view.

Do not come to this forum to lash out your anger at me. Respect is not deserved but earned.

Free speech and all what you claim to be free may stand in the real world, but here is a reality check--this is an internet forum. You are a guest in Trap17 forum. Trap17 is not a government, not a corporate working place or your law institution. Do you normally go to your friend's house as a guest and start barking orders? If so perhaps you have a lot to learn about good mannerism.

PS is it me or a post something so similar with the same picture posted a while ago? Am I having a deja vu?

[velma]

I Think Buffy knows who this is Anyway I think Buffalo is right, it was very cowardly for you to come like this here behind a screen name. Did you get banned last time so you are forced to sign up with this name to vent .....

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I personally ditest trap17 because of it's clutter, it's impossibility to navigate, and the fact that admins like buffalohelp haven't been banned yet, as he abuses his power to the point of threatening free speech.

If you think that trap is so cluttered maybe you can be a really good member, be a mod then be an admin and make this place the best in the world... There is a difference between free speech and abuse... Nobody has ever stopped you from saying what you want but if you spam on the forum then you define your free speech as rubbish and gibberish that is either copy/pasted or not worth listening to. Good members have always been respected here and treated right.

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Trap17 is way to orienated on its appeal, and not it's content, which is what's really important. If you make something flashy but pointless, all your doing is making idiots attracted to shiny things

Define the terms appeal and content?? Do you mean to say that people are only interested in the hosting and nothing else???? No wonder members with 5 years of FREE hosting post everyday here.

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make something flashy but pointless, all your doing is making idiots attracted to shiny things..

One of the best ways of describing your topic. Great Job!

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This is my theory on why Buffalohelp remains on the forum. Also, if this post is deleted, this will just be proving that Trap17 cannot take constructive criticism, and that Buffalohelp is a power-hungry tyrant, bent on the destruction of free speech.

Wow you must have broken some great set of rules to be angry at buff like this What do you mean CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM?????
All that I can read is Buffy this and Buffy that... The only thing I saw constructive was your first point of trap being a bit too cluttered and hard to navigate.. The rest of it was plain spite against Buff... Even your title sucks...THE STATE OF TRAP17????? What were you thinking man? If your topic was filled with swear words then it might have gotten closed. BUT I HOPE THIS TOPIC IS OPEN FOR PEOPLE TO SAY HI TO YOU. Then if people treat you badly, you will not have the right to complain to us..Is that alright? Please give me an example of a topic of "free speech" that shows Buffy the tyrant closing it for some invalid reason

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"Just for the record, Trap17 actually was a nice forum that had a relaxed environment before BuffaloHelp showed up. Good job, BuffaloHelp, you ruined a good thing. A lot of the good members also left since you got on the scene. Also, Trap17 users often act like they are in a support group. They complain when the nice police officer says they can't park in handicapped spaces when they are just out for a pack of cigs."

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Trap17 users often act like they are in a support group. They complain when the nice police officer says they can't park in handicapped spaces when they are just out for a pack of cigs."

Seriously when have our members behaved like hooligans? Again I would appreciate it if you showed me a topic that explains your point

Was this actually your friend or your own comment?? And if it was your friend I don't see him supporting you in your noble cause. Is your friend complaining because he is really concerned about Trap17 or is it because Buff is a great admin and has enforced good rules in the forum.

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Buffalohelp is not a helpful as he seems, as shown in the attached image. He is actually a tyrant who has a moderation style that Joseph Stalin would have.

HA HA HAHA HA HA. That has to be the funniest pic and line in the whole topic. Buff the tyrant..RUN MEMBERS RUN!!! They have started Advertising that Buff is a devil incarnate.

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"Well, the happy news is that I finally have a domain (at Dreamhost — you know they rock!) and brand-new hosting. I had a saint’s patience sometimes with Trap17, but I realized a little late that posting on the forums there was no longer as insightful as it used to be — and swiftly became a drag. To top that off, slow support and regular downtime, including one long stretch of database failure as pungent as a dying zebra, broke off our wary relationship forever. And then I found Hippo Hosting; not only did they offer Ruby On Rails (handy in case I want to play with Simplelog), and just enough cushiony space and bandwidth for me to settle into — all at the very reasonable price of $40/yr (you can get your first year at $30 if you hurry!) And their support is fantastic, given what I’m used to. I never thought that a server-update e-mail could make me so happy!"

Biscuitrat's opinion has no connection with our forums actually... You were talking about us getting our acts together not as a hosting company but as a forum right? Trap is a free hosting Company so OBVIOUSLY we are gonna lack in a .99% with other companies . But being an employee of Xisto Network I say nothing and I mean NOTHING can beat Computinghost's Web Hosting Services. How many forums of this kind have survived for so long??? Maybe you should go and check out how many have NOT survived..

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You guys simple need to get your act together. Enough said!

Sad to say this bub but that was one bad topic you are one of those "PEOPLE FOR JUSTICE" who say that you are fighting for truth and justice but have nothing to do all day so you crib to your next door neighbor or make judgmental comments on others thinking that you guys are the most superior creatures on earth. Sorry to say this but you need to increase your self esteem or maybe decrease it. Get a hobby or a job Or even BETTER get FREE WEB HOSTING from TRAP17.

P.S Buff never does anything without OpaQue's approval. Buff might be an admin here but he has respect for its members here and will do everything to make it the best forum. I made my post red in color so that it is easier to read. Maybe the topic Flaming Flamers describes you best Like Buff said, enjoy and respect our friendliness and hospitality.

Have fun but have your fun within your limits

@ Buff :Spurned lover J/K??? Seems mad at you...Good reply mate


Bye now and see you more in the forum

[Plenoptic]

I can't help but notice this nice part of his "friend's" quote...

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A lot of the good members also left since you got on the scene.

I'm not surprised many good members left, he has been here with Trap17 for more than two years. The thing is, I don't really think that they left because of him. In fact a lot of people have left since I joined the forums as well. Now let's see, I have seen many posts of people leaving but it's usually because they are too busy now or they moved up to paid hosting like Computing Host, but I can't recall a post about how Buffalo is a tyrant.

I think it's hilarious how you point out dumb pictures probably edited in Photoshop but no pointing to a particular topic or post that proves any of your theorems. Buffalo enforces the rules because they are rules and that's why they are there. There isn't anything tyrant about what he does.

[DeM0nFiRe]

Yeah... guys. I think you may have taken it a bit far. I mean, sure this topic was less than insightful, but who cares, it happens all the time. I think that BuffaloHELP's reply would have been just fine.
This was probably, as Buffalo surmised, just some guy who got banned justly, but doesn't like the fact. There have been plenty of people like that.

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"make something flashy but pointless, all your doing is making idiots attracted to shiny things.."
One of the best ways of describing your topic. Great Job!

Didn't you get attracted to the topic?

I dunno, maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like you guys may have been over zealous with some of the responses.

[jamers]

Anyone who thinks trap17 is bad should go get hosted by atspace. Man I am convinced they have some kind of cron job or something running that keeps booting the server. I signed up with SiteUptime for kicks and giggles only to be shocked at how often the site went down. Really really bad, but on the other hand maybe they have this set up on purpose to help move people over to their paid hosting. Just not very good business practice if you ask me. Not allowing certain keywords so you can't get a paypal button to work? Just stupid, and so I came to trap17. Much much better and loads of perks like PHP etc. Asking for regular posting is a good idea and I can see this evolving into a quality article writing business. Hmmmm could a member run such a business using the trap17 free hosting? I think so but sooner or later either a partnership or your own server would be required to be able to provide the free hosting model to others in return for the article writing.

[delivi]

this is the most amusing posts that I've ever read before in Trap17, and definitely I agree with BH as the person is a coward and cannot share his/her oppinions direcly.

BH I think that person must have got more warninings just like me

[arza1]

i love ths guy he is saying what i am thinking. but i like posting here. with my behavior lately i bet bufallo thinks it was me. i am glad i found this topic ...........

[9block]

Hehe nice picture. And I think BH defended himself quite nicely there.

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To make something flashy but pointless, all your doing is making idiots attracted to shiny things..

That was the most intelligent sentence spoken.

[nol]

Hmmm, well i would have to say a couple things about this. I love this post, not because its true, but because i just had to laugh at it. Why the HECK would you come to a forum you "ditest". Doesn't make sense to me. Can somebody help me out with that? I don't know about you, but where i live lol, we just ignore things, and or people we don't like, or in your case "ditest" So why not just leave? I don't get it. If you don't like it here, then your probably not welcome here.

Just because its unorganized doesn't mean it can't be fixed. Just post in suggestions. Theres really no point in just saying "I hate you" which is all this thread is.

buffalo said:

Judging by the number of your posts you were not hosted. Which means you are hiding behind another screen name to launch a personal attack on little old me. Otherwise, you are too cowardice to show your true identity fearing my retaliation.

Ya really, I mean, either he asked for hosting and got rejected because he can't read, OR, like you said, hes just hiding on a account because hes too afraid. IP check them? pleasseeee? Anyways, really, what is the main purpose of this thread? To ask to be banned? HMMM..fun.

Oh ya, and i beleive this is wrong forum since your not hosting? KKTHANXBAI

[Jimmy]

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and that Buffalohelp is a power-hungry tyrant, bent on the destruction of free speech.

Very amusing! I have to say this was definitely a funny post, along with the fact you are obviously hiding behind this new username. And the fact Buff probably knows who you are anyway!

I don't believe in God.
So, if Buffalohelp deletes this small sentence it either means he hasn't seen it (very unlikely because he's probably watching this topic like a hawk - Hawks are not evil mind you ) or simply that you are wrong. Goodbye.

Thank you for this topic it truly was entertaining, that's what more of them should be like.

[arza1]

i saw that some posts on here said that they think that they might know who it is. like they would say that they think buff might know. i am just wondering who everyone thinks it is. personally i don't think it was some one who got banned. why would you guys assume that just because they wrote this they must of broke a lot of rules.

and everyone is also saying this guy shouldn't be complaining. come on this place isn't perfect. but he is over reacting.

and come on mermaid he is just stating his opinion about trap and the people of trap. you don't have to go and say he is stupid. or hopped up on stoopid pills. below
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Edited by arza1, 12 August 2007 - 05:51 PM.

[Mermaid711]

Man this is probably the funniest post ever.

What i would want to know is why on earth this person would think this... they must be taking stoopid pills lol

[Archangel_Baw]

To: BuffaloHELP
I really wouldn't worry about the opinions above of you, The empty can rattles the most. Some people can not cope without drama or a crisis of some kind and they will create one out of nothing just to bring those around them down!

I'm relatively new here, but even I find it very easy to get to wherever I want to go:
CLICK THE PIC AT THE TOP LEFT HAND CORNER THAT SAYS TRAP17! IT TAKES YOU TO THE INDEX PEOPLE!

It's very clean and organized here and as a forum Admin myself, YOU and ALL of the mods here are doing an excellent job of getting rid of the trash whenever it is posted.

You are doing exactly what you're supposed to do here, and a forum this huge is very hard to admin/mod so whoever thinks it's easy to do your job can SHUV IT!

The above complaints were spoken like a true idiot.

[BuffaloHelp]

I placed this topic in Hosted Members Section because it was hosting related topic

It is clear at this point the motive behind the topic starter. We have another topic that refers to this one, which ended up as promotion to another hosting company. We get these kinds of spam promotions left and right on our forum. It's because Trap17 forum ranks very high on search engines and top 18,000 rank on Alexa.

Whatever the reasons behind this topic we all can judge for ourselves what Trap17 Free Web Hosting, No Ads can do for each and every one. Trap17 offers are only as good as your feedback. Tell us how we can continue to improve and test our services to see if we meet your needs.

Thank you.

PS Archangel_Baw, "empty can..." which is the direct translation to a proverb--have you been reading my signature or you too are aware of this proverb as well ?

[biscuitrat]

Alright, time to clear some things up.

When has either OpaQue or BuffaloHost EVER EVER been mean or cruel to us? The answer is never. They've constantly provided a fair and just administration of this forum that's very enviable. People on other forums are jerks. I've never encountered that here, and with as enormous and diverse a group as Trap17 caters to, that's simply remarkable.

You ought to be ashamed if you're putting these guys down. This is their job and they're doing it well.

As for my post, I apologize. I didn't mean it to be taken in the way that it was and I'm appalled that you would quote me to bash two admins whom I have the highest regard for. My complaint was due to one large period of downtime in May when I was under a lot of stress wondering whether or not my site would ever come back. Did I make a complaint of that nature before that? Never. That post wasn't written with much tact, nor much real information about my time here at Trap17, but I assure you that my time, before the downtime hit, was remarkable. I don't think I would have made it through that stretch with any sanity left without the assistance of both OpaQue and Buffalo who have constantly been wonderful. Slow support was a result of a database failure and I know that the admins were working their hardest to repair it -- questions would have to be answered later in order for the problem itself to be fixed. Did I say it was poor support? Of course not. I've been assisted numerous times by those two and when OpaQue couldn't answer, I knew Buffalo could. That's why I stayed so long -- I knew I was in good hands.

So seriously, naysayers, think about how much time and effort your admins put into your wonderful experience here. I have NEVER seen free-hosting this good anywhere else and I doubt you guys have either.

/HULKSMASH

Edited by biscuitrat, 20 August 2007 - 05:01 AM.

[velma]

Hey Biskie,

Dont worry about those losers. They had any way no right of quoting something that was wrong. Dont pay much attention to those losers they think they can get some attention by doing so.

The author and his pals still believe that the topic was pinned because it was important. It was actually pinned because OpaQue thought it was plain stupid and he realized the reason behind the topic

[tigercat]

allfanged1, on Aug 9 2007, 03:58 AM, said:

Buffalohelp is not a helpful as he seems, as shown in the attached image. He is actually a tyrant who has a moderation style that Joseph Stalin would have.

I have a few questions for allfanged1. Why did you include a traffic sign from the Atomsmasher traffic sign generator? It doesn't really seem to add much to your argument. How can you possibly compare Buffalohelp to Joseph Stalin? Buffalohelp is a Trap17 Administrator, who didn't seem to create a police state during the two days I have been here. Also, does Buffalohelp's username really have anything to do with him being helpful around the forum (although I haven't read any posts where he gave someone bad information)? I really don't see why allfanged1 even made this topic. None of his points were valid, and Trap17 seems to be a nice site.

Edited by tigercat, 27 August 2007 - 09:51 PM.

[chappill]

My views on your post is, it was pointless, Ive been here for about a week, the forums are friendly, the moderators (from what i have read) are understanding and firm, which wouldn't be my approach i would be 0 tolerance (thats just me and my hard life ), it seams to be there doing a good job, there cpanel has a fresh style that I've never seen before, the member are all kind and helpful as much as they can be, and if you're paying for hosting than thats you're problem, this host been amazing AND free surprised me one hell of alot!

Nice work administrators of trap17, keep it up!

[A200]

This types of threads make me laugh. I don't know whats worse, the fact they are criticizing Trap17, or the fact their spelling is horrible...

I love Trap17. I will never leave! Long live trap17!

[Joshua]

Archangel_Baw, on Aug 14 2007, 05:01 PM, said:

To: BuffaloHELP
I really wouldn't worry about the opinions above of you, The empty can rattles the most. Some people can not cope without drama or a crisis of some kind and they will create one out of nothing just to bring those around them down!

I'm relatively new here, but even I find it very easy to get to wherever I want to go:
CLICK THE PIC AT THE TOP LEFT HAND CORNER THAT SAYS TRAP17! IT TAKES YOU TO THE INDEX PEOPLE!

It's very clean and organized here and as a forum Admin myself, YOU and ALL of the mods here are doing an excellent job of getting rid of the trash whenever it is posted.

You are doing exactly what you're supposed to do here, and a forum this huge is very hard to admin/mod so whoever thinks it's easy to do your job can SHUV IT!

The above complaints were spoken like a true idiot.

This is a pretty funny topic. As soon as I started reading the original post, I started thinking 'this guy is spamming to promote another web host he's an administrator for.' Devils in the guise of helpful buffaloes, eh? Chasing out all the 'good posters' huh? Probably spammers of the same ilk as the OP. No wonder he's mad, his fellow brothers in buffalo hating are being bullied around by you.

I would also add that free speech should be free only so long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others not to hear vulgar, obscene, or derogatory speech. The U.S. government recognizes the right to 'free speech' but that doesn't include the right to say anything, as you pointed out with the 'fire' comment. People don't have the right to swear on public television, to slander or verbally harass others, and more examples could be given.

The inalienable rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The others are privileges that can be taken away if they are used to infringe on the rights of others.

I've enjoyed this site enough to now begin paying for it, and have enjoyed my hosting with Trap17 after trying many other allegedly 'free' hosts that were much, much worse. Trap17 in many ways offers hosting that really is unparalleled on the web, as far as cost, site building tools, lack of ads, and site assistance.

Thanks for providing this great service to the web community!

[losay]

hello, i just wanna ask some few questions.. this is freehosting is you have credits right, is the domain also free? thank you.. GodBless

[csp4.0]

losay, on Jul 16 2008, 05:13 PM, said:

hello, i just wanna ask some few questions.. this is freehosting is you have credits right, is the domain also free? thank you.. GodBless

o.O This is probably the WORST place you could post anything like that...

Anyway... Yes, the domain is "FREE" but you have to get 280 hosting credits to get it, which although is "FREE" does "COST" "TIME", so only look forward to a "FREE" domain if you can "AFFORD" "TIME" to post...

Anyway...

That picture made me laugh out loud, literally... But the thing is... Why do people hold almost a "grudge" against BuffaloHELP? I mean, he's always helped me out and many other members... Just because nobody trusts buffalos these days doesn't mean you can't trust BuffaloHELP...

[.:Piper_2051:.]

OK, I am tired of reading conspiracy theorems and so on being put forward, so here is my idea/ conclusion of this topic:

Is it so hard to beleive any of these idea's? no, but is it painful to at least ponder that this was done in jest? or that maybe, just maybe the original poster is a friend of BuffaloHelp's?

maybe this topic was posted by an admin or a mod, so as to determine "The State of Trap17". I dont think we will ever know the true identity of "allfanged1", however I also think, unless he/she has been banned, we have seen the last of him/her in the Trap...

You do have to think that there was some positive motivation behind this, the initial post just seems so ranty, no real heart behind it.

but this is all just IMO, nothing to take to heart really, im just putting it out there...

P.S: Ive never had a problem with BH, in any form, under any screenname over the years, BH is actually pretty cool...

[gameratheart]

As I was reading this topic, I checked out the profile of allfanged1 and something was brought to my attention. Allfanged1 joined Trap17 on 14 June 2006 but only ever posted once that entire year, and that post was actually a topic he started on the same day of joining. It wasn't until 9th August that he was seen again on this Forum, and that's when he posted this. So, one post followed by a whole year of no activity... I doubt he really knows what's been going on in this Forum with stats like that.

Looks like this guy just got bored of the Forums, thought he'd make up a lame excuse to tell us why we sucked, and then tried to collect "evidence" but got his "facts" completely wrong. Pathetic, no?

Edited by gameratheart, 17 July 2008 - 01:15 AM.