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[Nameless_]

networker, on Oct 18 2009, 09:34 AM, said:

That's true. It's all right what you say. Good little speech there.
I'd just like somebody to point out just one instance in history, of the paranormal
actually being proven beyond any doubt to be 'paranormal'.
You won't find one.
Most of it is always unexplained, or given a more likely practical
cause.
Religious documentation such as the bible shouldn't count
though. Then it becomes more a question of 'faith', rather than
a discussion of the paranormal.
Just my opinion.

Argh... darn it. I just realised that I wrote "deva ju" and not "deja vu". I always get them mixed up... But anyway...

I'm glad you understand... and of course the paranormal doesn't have any proof. That's why it's called the "paranormal". It's out of this world (or so it seems like) and I wasn't talking about religious documents as part of the paranormal field. It is just that many religious people seem to think that if we can move things with our minds or read other people's minds, we would undermine the power of God. This is not so. I mean, the most we can do the to move a piece of paper, maybe a calculator or two, but that isn't enough to part the red seas or move deserts or whatever Jesus did... (as you can see, I don't really know that much about jesus...

Paranormal phenomena is similar to faith, apart from the fact that you get proof if you have faith and that you try hard enough to make it work. Faith in religion doesn't. You only know if the faith that you had in life worked out after you died. This is the difference.

For the proof, well, I don't think you can find any solid proof. I know that I can't show it to you... but think... just think, that maybe Jesus parted the red sea with telekinesis, the ability to move things with your mind, and maybe Jesus can read minds too... you never know, right?

I have to say that if you really want proof, then you will need to look deep within yourself. Only you can make proof for yourself. I know I have. And that is why I believe.... Good luck.

[iGuest]

I don know if this is paranormal but....Paranormal Activity

When I was little I would find myself waking up in odd places due to the fact that I could see black figures come on to my bed. For instance one night I was try'and to sleep when I saw a figure of a squirrel climb into my window and onto my bed. I jumped off my bed, a bunk bed an cowered on the floor. I sat there just watching it until I feel asleep. The next morning I examined the window and it wasn't open.There was a tree right outside my window and I somehow justified it. 

It's not always squirrels I saw but most of the time I would see things, they would be animals. I've seen frogs jumping down my hallway and shadows. I feel off my bed a lot, but that might have just been me. Doesn't make much since now cause I barely move in my sleep.

My mom has seen a cup be pulled across a table in the same house.

Now that we have moved and I have grown older. I don't see anything anymore. The attic door keeps opening and shutting though. Jus slowl, and it creaks. The door mostly creaks when I'm alone late at night in the living room. I yell at it letting it hear that I saw it. Normally it's something like "aye get back up there" And I have had feelings like there is something in my room when I was younger and even a couple times now...But I don think its a bad one. I think is a girl.

But I don't know... That movie has got me think'and a lot...

-reply by Larry Dean

[iGuest]

our experienceParanormal Activity

I didn't believe in the paranormal I thought people that were afraid just didn't investigate to see what the noise was. In march my boyfriend and I went to a barn in Russellville, AR. We were told that a little girl named Sally was in this pit in the barn and if we went and called out to her she would visit you that night. We went there and my boyfriend and I went back to the barn he wouldn't go all the way in I went in and then went back by myself nothing happened. Later that night my boyfriend's brother went with us I went to the barn with him. He recorded a few voices asking for help and just saying hello when we were there we heard nothing until we listened to the recording. I still didn't believe. The man that owned the property said to call out to Sally and take a picture I did and my daughter which is 16yrs old and not afraid of anything looks at the digital camera starts screaming and drops the camera. I look at the camera and there is a figure standing behind me about a foot taller than me. I still am not afraid I thought it was just a flute. Later that night we head home which is about an hour an a half away.That night nothing happens. In the morning my 4yr old said that Sally wants to play with her my, 4yr old did not know anything about last night but could have over heard us is what I was thinking. We asked her who Sally is and she said a little girl in my room at this point my 16yr old and  boyfriend are a little freaked out. The second night we go to sleep and I have a very bad dream about a demon coming though the window on my side of the bed and taking my 4yr old and me to hell. When I wake up I am out of breathe I look around and realize it was just a dream. As I am going back to sleep I feel something grabbing my ankle thinking that the kids or my boyfriend are playing a joke I get up and check the end of the bed no one is there and everyone is still sound asleep still I think my mind is just playing tricks. About an hour goes by my boyfriend gets up asks why I m up I say I cant sleep. I asked him why he is up and he said I thought something was grabbing my foot and so our story begins. Our the next few months 5 to be exact doors open and close by themselves windows start opening we find DVDs stacked flat against the window no cases just the discs and when my 16yr old walks in the room they fall. We find all the draws and cabinets open one morning and the next they are taped shut none of which we did. We start finding our bibles in the oven and the dishwasher. My boyfriends dad calls some people to help us they study our home and hear some growling. They send our picture to a lady they know that help with some of there cases. She told us things about each of us that we hadn't told each other and that there were 3 black figures in the corner of our bedroom. And then asks if anything has happened to our dining room chairs we say no and thought that was strange. She also said that this thing was not here because of Russellville that it was here because of my boyfriend from the time he was 5 or 6. A few days later my 16yr old calls my at work all freaked out and text me a picture my dining room chairs are stacked on top of my bed. Another time I was taking a bath I had shampoo in my hair someone start rubbing my shoulders and I thought it was my 4yr old I tell her she cant take a bath in the mornings I don't have time that why she takes it at night it stops when I get out everyone is still asleep including her. The most scariest is when I'm talking to my boyfriend and his expressions change and it don't seem like I'm talking to him and then it just seem to be him again. So many time I thought about leaving because we were told we were in danger I was also told if I left my boyfriend would be in danger so my boyfriends mom and dad took my 4yr old and my 16yr old stay with her dad we spent many nights camping away from the house we did hear this thing twice in our vehicle but it was better when we were away from the house. One of the things that did happen we had an argument and we both left the house when I got home all the clothes in one section of the closet we thrown out like someone or something walked out of the closet our crosses were hung upside down bibles moved and turned facing away from us we heard banging out of the closet and growling and many other things. The people that tried to help us said that it would go back being dormant but could start again at anytime. After 5 of the longest months Ive ever had it just stopped. Its kind of funny but now that the haunted houses are here that no longer scares me just mine. The movie paranormal activity sent shivers done my spine to think how lucky we are that it stopped I pray to God it never comes back!

-reply by LISA

[iGuest]

comforting entityParanormal Activity

many years ago, I would say when I was about 10 or 11. My moms first husband left at about 4 in the afternoon and went to the daytona 500. The same night he left, approximatly 6 hours after, my mom was folding the laundry in her room directly upstairs from mine. I then heard a loud thud and she was screaming. I ran up the stairs to find my mom curled up and crying uncontrollably. I took her downstairs and finally got her to calm down and she told me

"I heard a mans voice right behind me say 'everything is gonna be just fine, he'll be ok."

she swore up and down it was Bill's (her husband) voice. But he was gone, and there was no one there besides her, my sister and me. Needless to say we moved out of that house about 3 weeks after that incident happened.

-reply by Allan Brinkler

[Okara KAmi]

Now here's the thing, Paranormal Activity, the movie, was lame. I know it was made off of a low budget scheme, but the idea behind it was a poor regurgitation of the Blaire Witch Project, or even Cloverfield, where immediate Camera take is translated into scenes and is thus the entirety of a movie, creating the illusion of realism to it. Some things I didn't like about the movie were:

1) The Ghost-ologist, the one who said that there was a demon in the house, and that he couldn't help them, he overacted. I don't mean emotionally, I mean professionally, his acting was poor for the role. It was cliche of him to hint at the fact that he shouldn't be there right now, and that he should leave, as the demonic presence was growing increasingly aware of his unwelcome existence. It just seemed like a cheap delineation of an old horror flick where the shaman gasps in fear, points at you, and says there is a great evil spirit haunting you, and that he must flee. It's been done before, and will be done again, unfortunately.

2) The camera made me want to puke cows. Just when you thought it was possible, when you sip your Cola and giggle to yourself, certain that Okara KAmi can not puke out cows, he does it. The camera had way too much motion to it some times. Now, with the given type of video take, sure you want motion, to make it more realistic, and make it seem like "oh wow this is actually happening to them, cuz he's holding the camera, seeing it." But that only matters in paranormal scenes, where something spooky happens, and your camera is moving to remind the watchers that this is a bit more real than they are used to. But when the two protagonists are having a conversation, and the man holding the camera decides to teach the damned thing how to do the irish jig, I, the viewer, found myself defying biologists everywhere. I puked out a cow. Yes, his name is Woof. Don't ask why.

3) Boom scares annoy me. A scary movie is scary when the plot to it just straight out haunts you. What annoy me are the movies where they use loud sounds and sudden movements to startle the audience, then claim that this was a scare. The entire movie moved super slow, even the night scenes where the demon is walking around, until finally one last bang occurs. The door slams, or the dude goes flying, or some loud noise happens, stuff like that, and the crowd gets startled. Not scared, but startled. And this, apparently, was what made the movie so scary. I admit, the last scene was well directed, the idea behind it was tasteful and not so horribly cliche, but in the end, the girl's acting made it awkward. Was it just me or did her evil face look like like your 2nd grade teacher's smile after you broke a crayon? Okay so I had a creepy childhood, leave me alone.

All in all, Paranormal Activity failed to scare me or my friends much =(
But back to the topic at hand!! I am a strict nonbeliever in the paranormal. Years ago when they could not explain thunder and lightning, they said it was Zeus, displaying his wrath down upon the human race. Now, we have a clear explanation for that. Similarly, now when we hear eerie foot steps walking around in the attack while none of the boxes move, we attribute it to a scary ghost that's trying to find the bathroom, where as reality might argue that it's just a leak in the roof that's causing the water to drop in some hollow pipe, causing the foot step noises. We don't know, and that's the catch, there's no way of proving one or the other, so I guess we might as well just go with whatever floats our boat. I'd rather not believe that there is a demon behind me, breathing down my neck, right now. But hey, that's just me.

[gisellebebegirl]

YES. ok a year ago i was home alone with my dog at my old house, i was just on the computer as always, when i feel like someone is breathing on my ear, staring at me, i thought, oh its probably my sister or my mom being weird, i turned and there was nothing there, but my dog, about 2 meters away, just standing there glasing at me, 2 seconds later the door to my room shut closed (there was no wind. and i was in the livingroom) pretty creepy
hhaha

[kleong]

Seem like many people have some experiences of paranormal. I believe there are millions of people in the world who have encounter some forms of paranormal activities. But strangely, even with the billions of encounter around the world, there are some people out there who just do not believe that paranormal is a fact, not a fiction. They will tell to find a link to some scientifically proved fact and some of the linkage is pure absurb. And when there isn't any form of explanation, they will just shudder their shoulder and said that the person who encounter it is just plain superstitious.

[iGuest]

I had something hapen to me about a year or so ago, it was the middle of the night and I thought I heard footsteps outside my room. I knew it wasnt my parents or sister because I could recognize their walking,this sounded much softer. After that incident I went back to sleep then it felt as if someone had sat on the foot of my bed as I felt it being pushed down. Scared me to death the next day when I thought about it because that night I really didnt think much about it. 

 

[iGuest]

Suggestion throught internetParanormal Activity

I haven't got any story which hapened only once, but I'd like shortly describe my ability. I noticed it two years ago. I can influence on some subconscious reaction by people when I concentrate my view on same part of the body. Is is not trance.For instance I can force asleep almost everyone or can evoke sleepiness with wink, yawn ( dogs too) who I can see directly or through internet. I have tried it through live cams. It is so simply for me, but I do not know what is it. I offer evidence through internet. During several minutes the evidence will appear. Percentage of success is more than 80%.Can scientists explain that it is possible no matter what the distance?-question by Milosp

[iGuest]

Skeptial?Paranormal Activity

 I wish I could simply attribute the banging noises, footsteps and shadows in our house to "leaky roofs" lol, but I'm afraid with us its not that simple...Our house is haunted and has been for a long time.

When you go to walk up the stairs to bed and see a shadow of human fform go across the walls or sometimes hear foot steps on the stairs-loud foot steps-then a sudden bang, every other night its not easy to simply say "its just the wind, etc. (especially as it goes on for hours then stops when you go to investigate, only to carry on again later).

Over the years many people have witnissed these thiings, including skepticle people (who had to admit they could find no rational reason) but its never hurt anyone. We're used to it now and used to say "It's only Fred."  Until one time when we said it, a  very clear and loud voice came out of nowhere to say "My name's William." That, was spooky.

So my point is, not everything is paranormal but sometimes...Just sometimes...Its more than just a leaky roof  or dripping pipes:) Peace.

-reply by smokey