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[anish2000]

Windows Vista Rocks so much!!!

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[odomike]

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Windows Vista Rocks so much!!!

anish2000......I would wanna understand wat your post is all about. Ok, Windows Vista rocks. But what really makes it rock? What are the features you find sooo rocking in Windows Vista? All these you would have to explain to us in here and not just telling us that Windows Vista rocks just like that.

And judging from your post count, I understand that you are still a newbie. You have to try to make very meaningful post man and not just short phrases. Your post should contain some meaning and sense of direction in it.

[dastrophy]

I'd agree with that: number of posts means nothing: try more content!


I've heard so many mixed reviews about Vista, and the majority of them tend to end up at the same end point: looks good, love the new interface, but you require newer hardware and some major upgrades to any systems that you want to upgrade with: also, as for being more secure and reliable than xp, it loses handsdown.

I really do want to know whether I should bother upgrading at all... at the moment I'm considering for when Vista sp1 come out, but the fact that much of my software, and possibly my scanner and printer might suddenly stop being compatible with my os, leaves me wondering if I should EVER bother upgrading to vista.

Alright, Vista my "rock", but in my opinion xp currently "rocks the hardest": give me a reason to believe otherwise...

[Will.Allison]

In my opinion, I think Vista is a joke. Its just a shinier version of XP with rediculous sercurity. You have to confirm to do ANYTHING including features that come with Vista. For example, you have to confirm windows to turn on the firewall. Its not that big of a deal but i find it very annoying. Another thing that is rediculous is the price and all of the versions.

I'm gonna stick with XP until they come out with something bigger and better than just making it look better.

[fffanatics]

Personally i really like vista but i do not find it that much different than XP. I can run the aero interface but always turn my computer to max performance since the visual affects I dont really care about. I tend to use lots of Alt-tab and keyboard shortcuts so i dont care what they look like as long as i can get to where i need to go quickly. Vista is very user friendly since on the outside it is a lot like xp but it has lots of good tools for the advanced computer users like myself.

[heavensounds]

Well I agree with the post VISTA DO ROCK, but you have to get used to it and you really have to have a two-core processor and at least 2gb of ram! That really makes it faster & better, because it uses the ram to load recently used programs so that they do not need to be loaded from disk again and again as you reopen them (this procedure of loading from disc is the slowest operation in your computer).

Other then speed of opening programs and more reliability & security there are also other great new features. It has indexing so you can find any program or file on your computer directly from the start menu in 1 second! You can edit pictures (brightness, contrast, saturation), what makes it great for me as an amateur photographer so i can edit pictures on the fly without having to open photoshop or something similar!

Well there are so many other things and it also looks MUCH better than the old XP that YOU SHOULD GIVE IT A BIG SHOT IF YOU HAVE TWO CORES AND AT LEAST 2GB OF RAM...

Best whishes..

[adriantc]

I have been an "unofficial" beta tester for over an year before Vista got released. It looked promising since I thought that in the next release they would really optimize it. But that release did not come. When I had my first contact with the final version of Vista I installed it on my desktop ( AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 1GB DDRAM, GeForce 6600) and I was extremely disappointed. I guess you can check that impression in the posts from that months... So even on my computer, which to be honest isn't that old, Vista worked terrible. It required some 550-600Mb of memory on startup (not as much as some predicted, but a lot more then the 30Mb Windows 98 required at startup). After later experience I came to the conclusion that memory isn't the biggest problem of Vista, but the CPU. My AMD desktop CPU, which is clocked at 1800Mhz seems to be overloaded most of the time, even when Vista is as clean as when I installed it (no programs whatsoever installed). If fitted with an antivirus Vista becomes a true nightmare. Microsoft was so proud of their Aero UI which I have to admit is great, but has, what looks to me, a major issue... it doesn't use the video card as much as should.
Video cards where in fact the only things that weren't used when using Windows until Vista came. It advertised a graphic accelerated desktop, but I don't think that is the case. My video card can still do miracles in games (even though it is far from the high-end part of the market), but for Vista, which, besides Flip3D, doesn't have any real 3D parts, it seems it is not enough. So basically it loads the CPU... How did I came with that theory?
In May I bought a laptop (a dream come true... I still am as excited as the day I bought it) which has an AMD Turion X2 TL-56 (dual core with each core clocked at the standard 1800mHz) , 2GB memory and an GeForce Go 7400. On the laptop Vista looks a lot different... and more importantly feels a lot faster. It works like a charm, it truly does... Since the laptop video card is somewhat slower then my desktop video card and memory isn't used to its full potential (around 30% on the laptop) the problem of Vista turns to be, as I have said, the CPU. Or the fact that is loads the CPU with what the video card should do.
So I advise you, if you do want to go to Vista better have a dual core CPU or you'll end up switching back to your old operating system very fast. Some beta testers reported that Vista SP1 will make Vista faster (it seems Microsoft will finally implement those optimizations I was hoping for when testing the last Release candidates)

But Vista isn't my primary operating system even on the laptop.... Windows XP is, and will be for a long long time, the best compromise between good looks (better the Windows 98), speed (a lot faster then Vista, slower then Windows 98) and stability (a lot more stable in my opinion then Windows 98 and Vista). Eyecandy (at which Vista rocks) doesn't mean much for most people, specially when speaking of efficiency. Its going to be extremely hard for Microsoft to kill its own Windows XP!


PS: anish2000, as odomike has said, you should really try to make your posts have some meaning.... like to explain why you think Vista "rocks"! Maybe you already know, but on Trap17 you don't get points for how many posts you have, but on their content. Basically you get points for every word you post.

[galexcd]

Guess what? Your one liner inspired me to report that post!

My report said:

One liner... Also he is blatantly lying in our forums!!! Windows vista definitely is teh suck!

Oh yes by the way, windows vista is the worst attempt at trying to copy Mac Os X EVER! Not only did they completely fail at making it usable, but it is 4 times slower than XP...

[TypoMage]

Not trying to burst you bubble but Windows Vista has been a suicide mission since the start. I hear and read about many problems with this Os. And I think that they should of fixed up Xp and perfected that before trying something like that it is very stupid. If you want a good reliable and cool looking Os I would Say Mac Osx. It is indeed the best!

[bishoujo]

Will.Allison, on Sep 17 2007, 03:52 PM, said:

In my opinion, I think Vista is a joke. Its just a shinier version of XP with rediculous sercurity. You have to confirm to do ANYTHING including features that come with Vista. For example, you have to confirm windows to turn on the firewall. Its not that big of a deal but i find it very annoying. Another thing that is rediculous is the price and all of the versions.

I agree with you about this. My screen darkens and the annoying confirm screen pops up every time I try to install something, and I don't know how to turn it off, or if there is even a way to turn it off.

Also everything loads slower than XP because it is so graphic intensive. However, to be fair, it does look sleek and quite nice.


I only use Vista because it came with my new notebook, or I wouldn't dream of paying to upgrade.

Edited by bishoujo, 18 September 2007 - 06:11 AM.

[g3place]

In my opinion, windows Vista is horrible. First of all, it uses too much RAM, which overall slows down your speed. Is all those fancy unnecessary clumped objects needed? Also there is basically no game support, most games don't even function. And worst of all, theres that decline in fps. In first person shooters, you need fps. I found out that the hard way. I hate vista, i reformatted and I will never use it again.

[Unknown_99]

I think everyone agrees on the horrible demand of memory Vista uses but really If your just into getting a pretty GUI, then Vista is the thing for you. But you have to admit Vista is much more secure than its predecessor Windows XP so thats a plus.

[kenobi]

I don't think that Windows Vista is so good that people who had Windows XP would be anxious to switcht to Vista. Why is that? Simple because Windows XP has its history and although it had many bugs there were the service packs which solved almost all of them and with a good antivirus you have nothing to fear. Also XP has lots of software and there are still many programs not fully supported by Windows Vista. And the most important thing is the resources needed to run the operating system. I think XP uses a fair amount of resources compared to Vista. It's kind of strange when only the operating system you use takes so much resources and keeps so little for the programs to run. This is important for people who want to play games or use programs which require a lot of memory for themselves and don't want to buy a new computer with at least 2GB of RAM and a directx 9 or 10 compatible card to be just having a recommended configuration to run Vista. And what do I think about the new look the 3d windows and stuff? I think it's useless and if I wanted something like that I could have it long time ago in linux. I think Vista will be ok in 2-3 years when most of people will have much better computers but for now Vista is not a general choice. I read somewhere on internet that Windows wants to develop a new operating system and release it in year 2009 so in the time that I think Vista will begin to be the most used operating system. So the next generation operating system will probably have to wait a few years too if Microsoft won't come with something radically new and usefull that would make people switch from their old operating systems witch which they are satisfied.

[techclave]

yes... microsoft windows vista simply rocks...!

particularly the ultimate version of Microsoft windows vista simply rocks above all the other version of vista.

i have been using the vista ultimate for more than 5 months now. i have not experienced any performance degradation so far unlike windows xp which simply goes down in performance after some month after installation.

good luck microsoft...! hands up to you..!

[ZaM0]

Vista rocks when you have a descent computer configuration, otherwise it sucks

[galexcd]

ZaM0, on Sep 28 2007, 07:22 AM, said:

Vista rocks when you have a descent computer configuration, otherwise it sucks

You can't say that... an operating system can't suck or not suck depending on what kind of computer you put it on. The fact taht it needs a computer less than 1 year old to run at all immediately makes it terrible, but all of the bugs and lack of drivers dosn't help it at all. Now I might not have a machine running vista but I already know that no matter what machine you run it on its going to have the same bugs and exploits. I mean the code dosn't change from computer to computer. It's still the same crap no matter where you put it.

[baucutt]

Ive had a little look a vista, doesnt run as slow as I though it would.

Very prettyfied though.

easy to use and network with Xp, might try networkin with a *nix based OS.

My only gripe is the fact that you need to have account passwords to access shared folders.

[bradley908]

This will be a larger post but here are some key features (Before I get into brief detail) comparing the two operating systems.

VISTA:

• CLEANER ICONS
  
• MORE SECURE
  
• READY BOOST
  
• USER ACCOUNT CONTROL

XP:

• EASIER NETWORKING
  
• BETTER DRIVER SUPPORT
  
• SUPPORTS MORE APPLICATIONS
  
• MORE SUPPORT AVALIABLE

They are just some basic things associated with the two operating systems.
To choose which version you want of Vista, use the guide below.

[*]Ultimate
Windows Vista Ultimate is the choice for those who want to have it all. Easily shift between the worlds of productivity and play with the most complete edition of Windows Vista. Ultimate provides the power, security, and mobility features needed for work, and all the entertainment features that you want for fun.

[*]Home Premium
Windows Vista Home Premium is the preferred edition for home desktop and mobile PCs. It provides a breakthrough design that brings your world into sharper focus while delivering the productivity, entertainment, and security you need from your PC at home or on the go.

[*]Home Basic
Windows Vista Home Basic is ideal for homes with basic computing needs like e-mail, browsing the Internet, and viewing photos. Easy to set up and maintain, it enables you to quickly find what you're looking for on your PC and the Internet, while providing a more secure environment to help protect you from an unpredictable world.

[*]Business
Windows Vista Business is the first edition of Windows designed specifically to meet the needs of small businesses. You'll spend less time on technology support-related issues-so you can spend more time making your business successful. Windows Vista Business is the definitive choice for your business today and tomorrow.


[*]Enterprise
Designed to significantly lower IT costs and risks, Windows Vista Enterprise meets the needs of large, global organizations with complex IT infrastructures.

I currently just use Vista Home Basic and I think that it is an excellent operating system, and the only other feature that I think is really not given in prioritism which is needed would have to be Media Center.

I also Dual Boot with XP Professional, for all my computing needs when I need to change operating systems, in the likes of drivers not being supported.

Thats the end of my post I hope you've enjoyed reading it.

Edited by bradley908, 06 October 2007 - 08:54 AM.

[killer911pt]

i was thinking about getting vista but after reding this my mind has changed i will continue with my xp (x mod) [x mod removes all unneeed things like demo software, extra themes,not wanted/needed processes, rubbish extras and things like toasts and baloons]

and i wont bother removing ubuntu either!!

[reith]

bradley908, on Oct 6 2007, 04:51 AM, said:

This will be a larger post but here are some key features (Before I get into brief detail) comparing the two operating systems.

VISTA:

• CLEANER ICONS
  
• MORE SECURE
  
• READY BOOST
  
• USER ACCOUNT CONTROL

XP:

• EASIER NETWORKING
  
• BETTER DRIVER SUPPORT
  
• SUPPORTS MORE APPLICATIONS
  
• MORE SUPPORT AVALIABLE

They are just some basic things associated with the two operating systems.
To choose which version you want of Vista, use the guide below.

[*]Ultimate
Windows Vista Ultimate is the choice for those who want to have it all. Easily shift between the worlds of productivity and play with the most complete edition of Windows Vista. Ultimate provides the power, security, and mobility features needed for work, and all the entertainment features that you want for fun.

[*]Home Premium
Windows Vista Home Premium is the preferred edition for home desktop and mobile PCs. It provides a breakthrough design that brings your world into sharper focus while delivering the productivity, entertainment, and security you need from your PC at home or on the go.

[*]Home Basic
Windows Vista Home Basic is ideal for homes with basic computing needs like e-mail, browsing the Internet, and viewing photos. Easy to set up and maintain, it enables you to quickly find what you're looking for on your PC and the Internet, while providing a more secure environment to help protect you from an unpredictable world.

[*]Business
Windows Vista Business is the first edition of Windows designed specifically to meet the needs of small businesses. You'll spend less time on technology support-related issues-so you can spend more time making your business successful. Windows Vista Business is the definitive choice for your business today and tomorrow.


[*]Enterprise
Designed to significantly lower IT costs and risks, Windows Vista Enterprise meets the needs of large, global organizations with complex IT infrastructures.

I currently just use Vista Home Basic and I think that it is an excellent operating system, and the only other feature that I think is really not given in prioritism which is needed would have to be Media Center.

I also Dual Boot with XP Professional, for all my computing needs when I need to change operating systems, in the likes of drivers not being supported.

Thats the end of my post I hope you've enjoyed reading it.

I fully agree with the need to list this because so many people are putting down Vista that those who may want it turn away because of fear. I built a new rig and put vista on, and i can tell you right now, that having done RAID on both Vista and XP OS installs and start ups, there is NOTHING as good as Vista's natural support, fdd are entirely obsolete for the most part imo, i didn't even buy one for my new computer, seemed like a huge waste of money to me. I ended up just getting what i wanted and everything i needed. I didn't decide to dual boot because honestly i didn't wanna go through the trouble and a lot of other personal hang ups about it, but i use another HDD for xp, and having to setup RAID when i don't even use it for XP was beyond useless and retarded that it took me quite some time to find an old working FDD lying around and plug it in then install windows because it didnt' wanna work without the RAID controllers from the mobo. Vista ont he other hand runs much faster than XP (i mean if you have a crappy rig, it'd be stupid to upgrade and most people i see complaining don't have an up-to-date / good rig to adequately supply vista with what it uses, sure it uses more than it should but i personally like what i get in return and have noticed no degradation in pc/game performance) and it has a handful of features i love.

Personally the way you navigate folders and search is so superior to xp that i dread going on xp, which i have to for most of the time because the main game i play is FFXI and for some reason (more a gfx card issue) the 8800gtx won't work right with ffxi on vista, causes massive slow downs and such that many NVIDIA users are angry at them for. Though that's a bit off tangent i've never noticed any unsupported games that i've played having any problems. And i'll be honest I got vista for the future dx10, but hearing about dx10.1 kinda made me spaz a bit but yet again, that's a whole other hang up i have. Since forums are basically huge editorials i'm voicing my opinion for vista, i love the new design ease of use, and if the UAC really is that much of a problem just turn it off and get your own app to cover the firewall if you want that off too, really not that much of a problem and it's leaps ahead for security from XP. I use my own personal anti-virus and firewall that are the best in the game so far, and let defender do it's thing as well, and have noticed no issues. In fact my network speed and pings in games are around 15% lower in most cases, Team Fortress 2 runs supremely better, as does just about any other resource demanding application, supreme commander runs seamlessly, for those interested my setup is fairly simplistic and i'll list it below so that people don't think you can run vista perfectly without a hitch on some ancient set of equipment.

CPU: 2.6ghz dual core (Lightly OC'ed myself to 3.2 steady at 32C w/ Eliminator Cooler)
GFX: 8800GTX
HDD: Dual seagates in RAID 0 for 600GB space total
RAM: 2GB XMS Corsair
MOBO: 680i NVIDIA

The whole rig with keyboard mouse monitor etc cost just around 2,000 dollars, a good price by far in today's markets i'd say, for those who say they have no money to upgrade, really making your own computer and buying from retailers that don't stiff you on jacked up prices (hullotharbestbuy) and yet still don't have the best you need, is what fails most people, but if you buy from good retailers who have an idea of just what the hell they're doing then upgrading your computer or building a new one from scratch becomes incredibly simplistic and easy, and you have the satisfaction and joy of creating it yourself, knowing all the inner workings because you did them, and most of all knowing that you didn't have to pay that extra couple thousand (depending on who makes it) just to pay somebody else to make *your* computer which really isn't yours after somebody else makes it. Anyways sorry for the tangent/rant/craziness. The point I was getting across is that Vista hardly is as bad as people think it is, as for the FFXI thing for any of you who play, it should be fixed by the next expansion when they upgrade FFXI to DX9 from DX8.

[MiniK]

Vista looks pretty good, but loads of people have been reporting bugs with it. If Microsoft hadn't tried to rush the release of Windows Vista for Christmas, it would have been a pretty good release of Windows. I am saying this even though I don't have Vista. xP

[Hagebyhemdata]

Will.Allison, on Sep 17 2007, 05:52 PM, said:

In my opinion, I think Vista is a joke. Its just a shinier version of XP with rediculous sercurity. You have to confirm to do ANYTHING including features that come with Vista. For example, you have to confirm windows to turn on the firewall. Its not that big of a deal but i find it very annoying. Another thing that is rediculous is the price and all of the versions.

I'm gonna stick with XP until they come out with something bigger and better than just making it look better.

I couldn't say this better by myself Will, it feels like a joke.
I've customers that are truely dissapointed at vista as os, and alot of them begging me to put back Windows XP
to their new purchased computer with Vista home premium license.
For an exemple, the UAC(that aren't too hard to deactivate, once you've done that) but for a normal PC user new
to the vista OS interface, it could be difficult step to accomplish.
And there are also programs and games that doesnt support running on a vista OS(Of course they make new updates to
both games and programs). I had to install mozilla firefox to get a customers favourite java game to run.
It feels like they only have accomplish a halfgood OS with alots of bugs and problems and forcing us to pay in full.

[mahirharoon]

vista is falling from the rock
[notice]
vista is falling from a canyon not a rock [/notice]
they relaesed a beta os

Edited by mahirharoon, 29 November 2007 - 07:51 PM.

[Sherwoodx]

In my opinion, VISTA is not good. I can see it good for those who don't do much on the PC, but someone like me, who is doing out of the ordinary stuff, would prefer windows XP. I have XP on my first pc, but I had to get vista for my new laptop -.- I am hoping to get XP ....and UPGrADE not DOWNGRADE. I mean I can't even get to my shockwave player/prefs files and what not with vista...though I can think of a few good things....(and hey, it looks nicer!) but I still prefer Windows XP for my computers.

[DanielL]

anish2000, on Sep 17 2007, 05:45 AM, said:

Windows Vista Rocks so much!!!

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Wow are you serious there is ten times as many things that are wrong with vista then there are right. I mean seriously have you not seen the vista commercial that is out it says "Think not what vista can do for you but what you can buy for vista". I mean hello it is hard as finding a house dog in the middle of the dessert to find software that works fully with vista. I would love reasons as to why vista "rocks" as far as i am concerned it is just another failure like windows 2000.