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[malapidp]

For more than hundred years there is a war between these two cultures, while Israel tries to make peace, however in the same time they have to defend themselves in order to be safe from terror. On the other hand there are planty of palestinians who wrealizes that there is no other way ecsept of peace, but there is a small group of people called terrorists who spoils the life of the whole nation.
Do you think there will be peace there???

[CodeName_88]

Errrr... Israel is the one trying to make peace? Noticed Arafat was poisoned? By whom? Why are the Israelis killing all these people?

[no9t9]

where did you get the info that arafat was poisoned?? that's a joke and a half. LOL, the guy was 75 years old!! If Isreal wanted to assassinate him, why wait till now when he already had one foot in the grave? it is so absurd that anyone would try to perpetuate such a stupid rumor

Jews are not the only ones killing people.. have you ever heard of suicide bombers? you might say they are in retaliation but you have NO IDEA who is retaliating and who is initaiting.. it can be argued both ways...

[odomike]

I dont think that the Isrealis are the people who are looking for trouble. the palestinians, been arabs, are known for their suicide bombing and they are the people who always attack the isrealis with their suicide bombings before the isrealis retaliates more viciously.

BTW, i do not think that Arafat was poisoned. By who? will b the BIG QUESTION. I believe that evrything will be fine in that region when the time comes.

[joshua132]

I think peace in the Middle East is a joke. Muslims and Jews view the area as holy, Jerusalem especially. Both sides claim the same holy land so neither side will be willing to concede. The conflict is so deep that it can't end. The Palestinians use one of the ultimate weapons available, human life. If you value your cause so much more than your life that you are willing to kill yourself along with several of the enemy you can be effective. The Palestinians have so much hate for the Jews and so much devotion to their leaders and/or Allah that they are willing to commit suicide bombings. I think that the problem is bigger than a small group of terrorists. Granted most Muslims don't want to kill people that disagree with them religiously, I think that in the Middle East most don't know any better. Many grow up believing in the Jihad against all other religions. The Middle East is a very volatile region, peace is a far-fetched goal at this point.

[ashiezai]

hmm .. i think that there's still a long way to peace for the middle east. Althought i dunno too much politics or history of the middle east. But i wish that everyone is safe and there's no war for this christmas

[CodeName_88]

I am IN the Middle East. I know more than most of you. I'm in Lebanon, just on top of Israel. I'm a Muslim, and we aren't bred to hate all religions. Anyway, the Palestinians, in my opinion, are fighting against ISRAEL, not the Jews, as Israel took their homeland away. That's the case.

[malapidp]

CodeName_88, on Dec 23 2004, 06:51 AM, said:

I am IN the Middle East. I know more than most of you. I'm in Lebanon, just on top of Israel. I'm a Muslim, and we aren't bred to hate all religions. Anyway, the Palestinians, in my opinion, are fighting against ISRAEL, not the Jews, as Israel took their homeland away. That's the case.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You see, millions of Jews were thrown out of their homeland by Roman Empire. As a result israel could make a battle agains Palestinians, and the one who will survive, will live in Israel, However, Israelis don't want to fight, because it willl be very easy to win all arabs aroud, Israelis want peace. they want that all the people around the world will live in peace, because this is the most important thing in the world...

[ManOfSTEEL]

malapidp, on Dec 22 2004, 10:35 PM, said:

For more than hundred years there is a war between these two cultures, while Israel tries to make peace, however in the same time they have to defend themselves in order to be safe from terror. On the other hand there are planty of palestinians who wrealizes that there is no other way ecsept of peace, but there is a small group of people called terrorists who spoils the life of the whole nation.
Do you think there will be peace there???

My friends, there is no impossible with GOD. GOD is great much great that the terrorist, Palestine and Israel will be in peace soon. Just pray and ask God for peace for both country and us. No one can rule or defeat Israel. Israel is the land of Promised as God said.

[Saint_Michael]

i thought the war between these 2 was going on for the last 3-4000 years now not one hundred.

[whafizi]

Dont believe everything written on the paper, dont believe whatever you heard in the news. Analyze, search for truth, search the internet about the actual facts. It does seemed to be too underground, and yes it is. Facts that were always hidden from your eyes are there in the net. Today, i've found this one;

Puppet Of String

Conspiracy is a dirty word. But trust me, this word is the one that causing many chaos in the world, for example, Abraham Lincon was killed because of conspiracy, and it was also the same when Brutus killed Julius Caesar. Go here;

Info Wars

Then you can open your eyes more about this word.

*edited: where is the edit button anyway?

Notice from Johnny:

Merged double posts...avoid them in the future by using post preview.

[iGuest]

Name:watcher7

who says Israel wants to make peace?? they are the one who made the trouble, conquering the Palestinian land, & killing thousands of innocent people. The poor Palestinians try to defend their homes & families.

Palestinians friends around the world also trying to stop the Israelian cruelty. That's why there were suicide bombers & thats' the only way to teach Israels supporters.

-watcher7

[polter]

The main problem with the Israeli-Palestinian dispute is that both sides rely heavily on the theory of "an eye for an eye", of violence and revenge. If one side sends a suicide bomber to blow up a few innocent citizens (and tourists too), the other would reply by sending a few of its gunships to the other party. Peace is not possible unless one of them suddenly decides not to retaliate. But that's doubtful too, considering the Arab side, which loves to terrorize other nations, not only Israel. I don't think they will ever stop unless the whole of Israel is occupied. The problem here is religion, of neo-Islamic teachings of Jihad and other primitive thoughts. Notions such as reward on the other side for murdering infidels etc. If, for example, the Palestinians had been Christians, or Buddhists, or any other religion, this war would have taken a different turn. Talks would be more productive, and there will be more understanding between leaders.

Israel, on the other hand, for such as small state, has so much power, mainly because of the US support, so mix that with a whole lot of pride and ego, and what do you get? Loathe. Envy. Jealousy. And who is the next door neighbor that's really pissed? - Palestine, of course. And being a Muslim nation (like all Muslim nations), violence and war are in their blood. So, the conflict between Israel and Palestine was inevitable. Two diseased nations infecting one another in a vicious circle that will continue unless and until one completely wipes out the other.

Edited by polter, 20 January 2008 - 10:41 AM.

[Dark_Prisoner]

no9t9, on Dec 22 2004, 05:17 PM, said:

where did you get the info that arafat was poisoned?? that's a joke and a half. LOL, the guy was 75 years old!! If Isreal wanted to assassinate him, why wait till now when he already had one foot in the grave? it is so absurd that anyone would try to perpetuate such a stupid rumor

Jews are not the only ones killing people.. have you ever heard of suicide bombers? you might say they are in retaliation but you have NO IDEA who is retaliating and who is initaiting.. it can be argued both ways...

Well the medical report said that he was poisoned .

And take a look please at the statistics ... Who is killing more ? Palestenians with their small rocks , or Isrealis with their Guns and their Tanks and their bombs And their aerofighters?
Every day :
* 3-6 Palestinians die
which are about 70% *women and children*
* 5-9 Palestinians lose their home and become homeless

* about 3 *Soldiers*

Do you think that these peoples are not going to revenge ? They invented the "suicide bombers" way to defend their selves and their sons , wives , etc..
And finally who came first ? Israelis or Palestinians .. The land was owned by palestinians but Israelis came to it by war .. and now they want us to believe that they're doing that for peace , and to defend their selves .

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who says Israel wants to make peace?? they are the one who made the trouble, conquering the Palestinian land, & killing thousands of innocent people. The poor Palestinians try to defend their homes & families.

Palestinians friends around the world also trying to stop the Israelian cruelty. That's why there were suicide bombers & thats' the only way to teach Israels supporters.

I completely agree with you

Edited by Dark_Prisoner, 24 February 2008 - 10:44 AM.

[arnz]

Have to say its still a long way before Middle East does see any peace. There has been attempts for either to get along, but of course suicide bombers and the radicals on both sides tend to ruin that process. As for the homeland disputes, whether Israel took the land away from palenstine or so, I dont know much about, so I'll stay out of that one.

[14]

i think israel is a realite terroris bcoze he make a big war....
its crazied nation...
i think PBB must prevent this...
because the Palestine HUman Rights is being destroyed by Israel....
its so crazied.....
and its must be stop!!!!!!
how about your opinion???
agree with me???


thanks for alow me to give a litle opinion about it....
thanks
ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!!!!!

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[mikeyboy63]

Israel has a dilemma. If it truly annexes the West Bank and Gaza, as supported by Iran, the Arab Israelis would soon outnumber the Jewish Israelis, so Israel doesn't do it. But right now, the Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank have no rights, no ability to conduct international business, no policing capacity (Israel won't allow a strong police presence), no power to enter into trade agreements, no right to travel, even from city to city within the West Bank. etc.

The West Bank and Gaza are slowly becoming like the Jewish ghettos inNazi Germany and Europe.
The Jews learned the wrong lessons from Hitler...........
Former President Jimmy Carter is correct in saying Israel is an apartheid state.
Eventually, the common man in Israel will be heeded, that Israel cannot be a true and righteous democracy while holding 2 million Palestinians hostage in the West Bank and Gaza. Zionism will eventually succumb to common sense and justice. When, though, is anybody's guess.

[iGuest]

Middles Easr CrisisIsrael And Palestine...

The Palestinians are only fighting for Land belonging to them  but taken from them!  and until that Land is returned - there shall be no peace!  and the United States should "keep their nose out it".

Betty Haynes

[iGuest]

war between isreal and palestineIsrael And Palestine...

In my opinion the war between isreal and palestine is not really a war at all it is a genocide of palestinians by the isralies. It is not about territory b/c isreal has nothing to gain  since it was not their land to begin with.

-reply by Styephanie

[iGuest]

I think the solution is political not religiuos ... When when israel intigrate with the arabs... as one nation like they were before 1947 , then they be peace...Until then the palestine will fight for thier land.  the land the rules for more than 300 years.. Just I magine that the american indians come back in big numbers and grab everybody in the usa.. And make us live all in new york,, while they take all of the others states.. Do you think the american will fight the indians again? I think so.

 

so the only solution is bringin back the the old state of palestine or divide israel in 2 and share the holy city .. Thats the only way out 

-reply by junior

[iGuest]

YOU GUYS GOT IT WRONGIsrael And Palestine...

hey all I`m tryen to say is that the Gaza people just wanted food and medicen so they digged a hole to egypt just so they can get FOOD AND MEDICEN so now there BOMBING the gaza people for that wat the hell is there problemThe Muslims don't have a problem with the Jews we have a problem with the ISREALES theres a HUGE difference so don't start saying that we hate Jews when we don't kk.

[iGuest]

Seriously! Lets just all have peace.. End the WAR AND INCREASE THE PEACE.Seriously thats what this world needs right now.

Do we really want another WORLD WAR 

Go palestine!

 

(other oppinion)

since the land originally belonged to the palestinians then it is rightfully theirs. If america is not gonna helpt he palestines then yeah I agree they should keep their nose out of it.

-reply by opinionated

 

[Darcon]

This is an interesting opinion by Amitakh Stanford. The only chance for peace is a two state solution. Both the Palestinian state and the Israeli state need to have a seaport and continuous borders. The neighbouring muslim nations should think about granting some land to the Palestinians. However, now we are getting to the crucial part, which is Jerusalem. Jerusalem needs to be either wholly in Palestine or wholly in Israel. A "Berlin Wall" will not work, there would be continued friction and threats of war. Both Israelis and Palestinians are religious, so they should be open to an unconventional solution:

http://www.flyingbuf...et/keluar9.html

O Jerusalem, take heed. The current situation in Israel is untenable; there is an unending conflict between the Palestinians and the Jews. Jewish inhabitants distrust the Palestinians, and vice versa. The age-old struggle between them has cost many lives, much hardship and untold sorrow. The conflict has generated tremendous anger, hatred and distrust – forcing them to live under a single umbrella has proven to be a formula for unending friction.

. . .

Jerusalem is a major sticking point in regard to a two-state solution, which affects not only the parties, but peace in the region. Both sides have long-standing reasons to be inflexible regarding the city. Both sides have long historical, cultural and religious reasons for their intransigence regarding Jerusalem. This has led many people to insist that the two-state solution have a shared Jerusalem. That is, severing Jerusalem in twain, part to one nation and part to another, or granting co-ownership of the city to both nation states. Are either of these proposals wise?

The twentieth century saw what happened when secular powers divided up Berlin into sections. The situation was so bellicose that the Berlin Wall was erected to section off the city. For decades, the Wall divided the people and caused tremendous misery until it was finally demolished.

The same mentality of erecting “Berlin Walls” is very active in modern-day Israel, as is seen by the walled-off sections of the West Bank. Fencing off sections of Berlin did not work, and it should not be encouraged in Jerusalem. Further, if there are national borders running through the city of Jerusalem, it will guarantee that there will be continued friction and bloodshed in the city.

It is understood that neither party wants to relinquish all rights to Jerusalem, but, in reality, to have lasting peace in the area, is there any other choice? I suggest that there is not. Many centuries of conflict support my position. Therefore, in my opinion, Jerusalem should either be wholly within the nation of Israel or wholly within the newly created Palestinian state. To accomplish this, one side or the other would necessarily have to relinquish Jerusalem voluntarily, if it is to be settled amicably. It should be realized that the side that vacates Jerusalem should be amply compensated for it when boundaries for the two newly-formed nation states are drawn.

Clearly, both parties’ claims to Jerusalem are heavily based on religious grounds. If neither side will voluntarily relinquish the city, then, after solemn prayers, a lot should be cast over which nation state will house Jerusalem. Those who sincerely believe in the Divine should accept that the lot will result in the Divine’s will being carried out.