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[Mermaid711]

Well, today in my language arts class, we studied world war 2 propaganda, then we had to right an eleven sentence paragraph over how we could prevent it from happening again and what specific groups of people to focous education on.

This isn't exactly my eleven sentence paragraph, but here are some ideas.

Topics of education- Well, seeing as how some of the countries of the world are trying to make it seem as the holocaust didn't exist OR they're trying to make it look not as bad as it was, or they are not teaching it how it occoured. I think that we need to make a cirriculum, or at least a basis for a cirriculum, to teach how it all went down. I find this especially important because you know what they say about bad events in history (it's never the good ones ) "If you don't know it, it's doomed to repeat itself." And, quite frankly, I have jewish, disabled, and homosexual friends (hell I might have some jypse friends [whatever a jypsie is]) who I do not want to become victim to that. Plus I find it rather cruel and inhumane for anyone to undergo that no matter who you are. I think that they should have anti-hate courses, in addition to the halocaust education.

Rules of Society- Has anyone else noticed this besides me? It is becoming more and more acceptable to hate someone for their skin color, race, religion, disability, sex, soceoeconomic background, or sexual orientation now more than ever. It needs to stop. Now. It isn't okay for someone to be discriminated against just because they are different. No people, you know better than that.

Disposal of Body Image Standards- If anyone here who is in the USA and over the age of about 16, you have probably heard about the Aryan race. The term originally came from a term to describe a person from Iran, or a persion. But the Nordic myths of Aryan supremacy is where the blonde-haired, blue-eyed people came from. I think that magazines like cosmogirl are premoting false images of perfection in one's body. If anyone knows how women can be at times, competing for the male's affection, the one who wins out (typically the blonde hair blue eyes) will gain a sense of supremacy. Well, before you go off on me telling me that this has nothing at all to do with killing 10,000 men, women, and children, you are right, but a sense of supremacy does not need to be granted to any specific genepool of people.

For those of you who are familiar with adolph hitler and the affairs that pervert had with his wive, you know where the Nordic myths, or well, part of the Nordic myths originated from. We need to make behaviors like that severely frowned upon in this society.

Don't let minority over rule the majority- The Nazis who actually knew what they were doing was only about 10% of the rest of the population. The fact of the matter is people, BE YOUR SELFS AS LONG AS YOU DON'T HURT SOME ONE ELSE!

Ahhh it still needs work, but I don't want to type anymore. . . I might finish it later. . .

Edited by Mermaid711, 30 November 2007 - 11:06 PM.

[Saint_Michael]

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Topics of education- Well, seeing as how some of the countries of the world are trying to make it seem as the holocaust didn't exist OR they're trying to make it look not as bad as it was, or they are not teaching it how it occoured. I think that we need to make a cirriculum, or at least a basis for a cirriculum, to teach how it all went down. I find this especially important because you know what they say about bad events in history (it's never the good ones laugh.gif) "If you don't know it, it's doomed to repeat itself." And, quite frankly, I have jewish, disabled, and homosexual friends (hell I might have some jypse friends [whatever a jypsie is]) who I do not want to become victim to that. Plus I find it rather cruel and inhumane for anyone to undergo that no matter who you are. I think that they should have anti-hate courses, in addition to the halocaust education.

Well the problem is that the ciriculum would be very flawed or I don't even think it would get past the planning stage as people would be arguing left and right about what to put and not to put, and making sure not to offend everyone. Sadly young Mermaid Genocide is a way of life, Bosnian War, Iraq's War with Iran, Armenian Holocaust. If you want to really get down to it when Rome and Persia where in power you could see plenty of that when they conquer of all Asia, and even the Spanish Inquisition and the witch hunting can be considered it as well.

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Rules of Society- Has anyone else noticed this besides me? It is becoming more and more acceptable to hate someone for their skin color, race, religion, disability, sex, soceoeconomic background, or sexual orientation now more than ever. It needs to stop. Now. It isn't okay for someone to be discriminated against just because they are different. No people, you know better than that.

That's debatable, however, I can't really provide anything to really argue against it but before 9/11 it was somewhat better, how? That again is debatable. You have to remember thought that everyone is born prejudicial and overcoming it is what takes the longest time, but people don't talk anymore because if they something someone else will think they are being racist or sexist; Don Imus a big example of that statement.

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Disposal of Body Image Standards- If anyone here who is in the USA and over the age of about 16, you have probably heard about the Aryan race. The term originally came from a term to describe a person from Iran, or a persion. But the Nordic myths of Aryan supremacy is where the blonde-haired, blue-eyed people came from. I think that magazines like cosmogirl are premoting false images of perfection in one's body. If anyone knows how women can be at times, competing for the male's affection, the one who wins out (typically the blonde hair blue eyes) will gain a sense of supremacy. Well, before you go off on me telling me that this has nothing at all to do with killing 10,000 men, women, and children, you are right, but a sense of supremacy does not need to be granted to any specific genepool of people.

Paris Hilton and Britney spears need I say more about that blond stereotype? Its funny though although Hitler was promoting the Blond hair blue eye thing out of all the pictures I don't even remember seeing one, heck most of the Nazi leaders had brown hair and brown eyes, I don't remember them dying their hair or put contact lens to fit it. As for the magazines I would have to say thats more geared towards women then men, of course once you get into playboy and penthouse its all about men. Don't forget Hitler crazy buy the time he came into power as to when he snap was most likely when World War II started.

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Don't let minority over rule the majority- The Nazis who actually knew what they were doing was only about 10% of the rest of the population. The fact of the matter is people, BE YOUR SELFS AS LONG AS YOU DON'T HURT SOME ONE ELSE!

Mermaid you forget every tries to present a false image of themselves, I don't know anyone who is really themselves and not some else as its all about image and being popular and cool and stuff. As for your topic I say your on a good start how to argue for both sides of the topic, I bet with a bit more research and time you might have something there. Don't forget winners are those who write history, those who lose are erased from history.

[dre]

Genocide? Well gee nothing has stopped it so far has it? You can't just make ways to prevent this because they won't apply to everyone, different groups need different types of outreach. I'm not saying I'm the one to solve it, but in my eyes, nobody is really trying that hard. It's more of responding to genocide when it happens rather than preventing it.

[Galahad]

Me being in politics and all, reading much of the reports on the attrocities in recent war that occured in the Balkans, I can tell you one thing... Genocide will be very, very hard to stop... Here's why:

People wilh low life standards, no employment, etc., are very succeptible to propaganda... I look at it every day, here in Serbia... Because of or low standards, poor living conditions, it's easy to manipulate the crowd... Especially if they are dissapointed in the government... If you mention their national identity, point out how much better your nation is than others, and you've hit the jackpot... That's how many of the polititians here work... No actual program, just nationalistic babble...

Hitler rose to power because people were unsatisfied with their lives in Germany in that time... Worked all day, had barely enough to survive... They needed someone to blame... Of course noone is going to blame themself.... So, Jewish people were made guilty by those that aren't satisfied with their life... Same is here now... For example, A good portion of Serbs see the following: US is our main enemy, and so is the EU, Croats are our ancient enemy, Hungarians want to come in and take back Vojvodina Albanians want to take Kosovo... Same is in Croatia, only ther are a biy subtle... The worse part is, our government is puting out such propaganda, and raising those kinds of problems... And since people here have to work hard, and have barely enough to make a decent living, they are naturally unsatisfied... They need someone to blame... So, the politicians find those who will be guilty... United States, European Union, and everyone else... It suits them that way... They don't want people focusing on the real problems, such as wellfare, social policy, healthcare, jobs, etc., but on these idiotic "problems"... And if you repeat a lie long enough, it becomes the truth...

I've been lucky to have been born in the old Yugoslavia... I was educated with old values, and my parents (fortunately for me), are not stupid people... I was thought that no matter what nation you belong to, you are a human being, and thus, an equal to me... That was the main value of the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (SFRJ)... In those great days, we all lived in peace and with no hatred... Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia, Monntenegro, Bosnia and Hercegovina... We were all in one country... Our late president Josip Broz Tito, while alive, held us all together... Whoever propagated strong nationalism, was delt with in the quickest manner, and imprisoned... When he died, there was no one who could succeede him... Strong heavy nationalists rose to power, slowly, and finally broke us apart... And they still roam free, and their only concern is to stay in power...

Changing the curriculum will not yield the desired results, as there will always be someone who will object to the curriculum... But, if attempted, it should first be made available to those with lower socioeconomic status, and alike, as they are more succeptible to manipulation... Politicians need to be penalised for spreading strong nationalism, as it goves birth to hate... But, sadly, I'm not optimistic... We're fighting a battle against windmills, like Don Quixote... People need to evolve some more, and change their priorities... Nationality must never come before life... No matter whose it is...

Topics should include not only education about holocaust, but all the attrocities commited in the wars... There should also be an active reconciliation between nations in war... Accepting the responsibility for crimes commited in our names, and accepting crimes inflicted on us... Never forget, but always forgive...

As for the false images of perfection, well... I doubt we will see that come to a stop any time soon, it simply makes too much money... But that doesn't add too much to the spread of nationalism... It's role is minor, among all others...

Eliminating hate between nations, races, etc., is a very complicated subject, and I fear it will take a looong time to get rid of it...

[silver_wolves]

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Rules of Society- Has anyone else noticed this besides me? It is becoming more and more acceptable to hate someone for their skin color, race, religion, disability, sex, soceoeconomic background, or sexual orientation now more than ever. It needs to stop. Now. It isn't okay for someone to be discriminated against just because they are different. No people, you know better than that.

im going to have to disagree, if anything, its becoming more and more unacceptable. if you hit some or abuse somebody in any way of a different race, namely african americans, they will almost always call it a hate crime and blame it on race. its quite hard to hate somebody for their race, skin, religion, disability, sex or anything else, without being hated back or even possibly charged. But most people claim everything is a hate crime, which is ridiculous. i dont see why people cant just get along and deal with it.