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[Saint_Michael]

Although its been a long time since it was first announced that a version 3 of the credit system was announced to various people. This topic gave me a great idea and a reason for this topic. That is what would you like to see in the version 3 of the credit system, let it be updates to current features or new ideas post them here and give details as to why you want this change or to make an update to the credit system.

Not to take from saitunes topic about this, but sending an email or a pm that persom is about to hit 0 credits is a great idea and I would say that when a person hits 5 credits they get a reminder that they need to post to get more credits. Then when they hit 0 credits they are sent a email or pm that their account is suspended and that they need to start posting again or after 30 days their account will be terminated

Which leads into my next suggestion, I know there are a lot of accounts with more then -30 credits and so what I suggest bring that limit back and terminate their accounts, because trying to make up -50+ credits is a huge task that will take awhile for someone to get their hosting account back and this also frees up systems resources as well.

By now everyone is familiar with the manage page and so I leave this open end question and that is what can be done to improve that page as well. So think about can be done to improve the system to make it run faster and more efficient and of course no crazy ideas like earning credits in the shoutbox, we asked, it won't happen .


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Another idea that just came to me from the boss himself and I know this one was talked about for a long time and that is earning credits based on topic views and topic replies. Of course to add to OpaQue idea and I know it won't fly is set it up to do a recount of the forum and then add the credits according to all the topics that have been made, imagine the huge spike of credits everyone will have because of that .

Like I said though I doubt that suggestion will fly because a lot of those credits would be wasted to members who are no longer here and of course the fact everyone would have ton of credits and odds are stop posting. However, on the other spectrum of this idea I think a rate of .05 credit per 5 or 10 replies would seem reasonable to that. Of course, the interesting part of this would be to how not to count the original posters replies in that equation since that person could just spam their own topic to get those credits.

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Edited by truefusion, 25 August 2008 - 07:52 AM.

[Bluebear]

May I ask a question? Probably not, but I will do it anyway. Why is that that the more credits we have the less we get per post? I have never understood that part.

If a person manages to create a topic that gets a lot of replies and starts a discussion that it good. Good idea. But the amount of credits should also be based on how good the replies are? Many topics have hundreds of posts. For example "What is your favourite colour" would probably get a lot of short replies, and the answers would not probably be very good.

And no, I have no new ideas.

[Saint_Michael]

You can ask questions bluebear and as for your question the number of credits you receive is based on your post count and of course what member group you are in. So maybe that is another idea and that we get rid of the post count rules and make everyone on a equal playing field while still keeping the member group credit rule intact.

[electriic ink]

Bluebear, on Aug 20 2008, 05:11 PM, said:

May I ask a question?

No.

Bluebear, on Aug 20 2008, 05:11 PM, said:

Probably not, but I will do it anyway. Why is that that the more credits we have the less we get per post? I have never understood that part.

So you don't make 2,000 credits and then not come back for 2,000 days. Obviously, it's better if you keep coming back every few days so you stay up-to-date with all the latest developments etc...

Bluebear, on Aug 20 2008, 05:11 PM, said:

If a person manages to create a topic that gets a lot of replies and starts a discussion that it good. Good idea. But the amount of credits should also be based on how good the replies are? Many topics have hundreds of posts. For example "What is your favourite colour" would probably get a lot of short replies, and the answers would not probably be very good.

And no, I have no new ideas.

So you get x% of the credits gained in total by the repliers. That sounds pretty complicated to me, not to mention the fact it will encourage people to link-drop their own topics (ie spam).

The key to a good system, in my mind, is to keep it simple so I have no new ideas.

On a side note, how did you manage to start a new topic in this forum? Even I can't do that

[jlhaslip]

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On a side note, how did you manage to start a new topic in this forum? Even I can't do that sad.gif

They likely pressed the "New Topic" button at the top of the page. Works for me...

[Saint_Michael]

The miracles of science electriic ink , but anyway that was the main concerns when OpaQue mention about awards credits for replies and stuff and of course thats why I mention about how not to award credits to that persons reply while still earning credits for his or her post.

[csp4.0]

Here's an option...

An ability to "pause" your account, i.e. Your hosting account basically gets suspended but isn't terminated... After a set time the account becomes "unsuspended" During suspension, you don't lose any credits and to make it so that people won't abuse this feature don't or slowly get credits (i.e. only 60% of what you'd get for a 100 words or so).

Also another idea... To increase Trap17's popularity maybe install the "Army System" modification for IPB and let the members play and maybe the highest-ranking person is exempt to the credit deduction rule or something.

But the thing is... I would much rather a "account suspension" since I don't really need my website right now and I'm very busy trying to keep my account still active. The only problem with terminating my account is that I still sometimes use my account to test things out on a live server so I can't termainte it...

[Saint_Michael]

Well I can tell you on that Army system, that created havoc with trap17 4 years ago because of how many people were playing and the glitches that were coming from it and sucking up resources as well with all the data that is saved as well. That is why IPBgaming.com was formed, although, it was long since dead and the people that were expecting join from trap17 to this site for the army system was because of how many people stopped leaving altogether.

As for the pause feature it seems to make sense, although the first feature of not being able to earn credits would make the most sense. Although there would be one problem them, if you have good site that is getting a lot hits and is well index you be losing visitors and getting your website booted out. Either way there are some interesting idea's being brought but still looking for thought so keep them coming.

Edited by Saint_Michael, 21 August 2008 - 10:23 AM.

[bittr]

Bluebear, on Aug 20 2008, 06:11 PM, said:

If a person manages to create a topic that gets a lot of replies and starts a discussion that it good. Good idea. But the amount of credits should also be based on how good the replies are? Many topics have hundreds of posts. For example "What is your favourite colour" would probably get a lot of short replies, and the answers would not probably be very good.

And no, I have no new ideas.

I think that wouldn't be a problem, what kind of replies you get to your topic, if the system for replies would be based on the normal system for posting.

How I would imagine it to be, you would get, say 1% from the values of the replies in your topic, and not something based on how many they are. So, if a reply is good and gets more credits, you get more credits.

And that might be even easier to implement now than another counting idea. When somebody submits a post, he gets, for example 2 credit points, and in the same time 0.02 credits (1%) goes to the starter of the topic he posted in.

And the initiator spamming in his topic... That wouldn't also be a problem........ He would get only a bit extra credit, and if he would manage to keep the discussion in the topic alive, that would be a good thing for trap17, as it would bring more and more content. That's the idea after all.


But anyway I think this 'credits-for-replies' would be overall a good thing for trap.

[sidenote: so, Saint-Michael, you started this topic because the system is already applied? ]

[velma]

Interesting topic....

But we need to understand that the credit system is OpaQue's brain child and can be coded, configured and handled only by him. Credit system 3 too will be coded by OpaQue and no one so we might have to wait for a bit before it comes online..

Now coming to the ideas :-

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Not to take from saitunes topic about this, but sending an email or a pm that persom is about to hit 0 credits is a great idea and I would say that when a person hits 5 credits they get a reminder that they need to post to get more credits. Then when they hit 0 credits they are sent a email or pm that their account is suspended and that they need to start posting again or after 30 days their account will be terminated

This is a good idea and am sure will be possible as a similar feature is used for Feedbacker (Iguest) where a guest is send an email with the link to the topic.

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If a person manages to create a topic that gets a lot of replies and starts a discussion that it good. Good idea. But the amount of credits should also be based on how good the replies are? Many topics have hundreds of posts. For example "What is your favourite colour" would probably get a lot of short replies, and the answers would not probably be very good.

Like electriic and SM said, we do not want any spammers coming here posting one liners and then teleporting to another dimension. The main reason that OpaQue had tweaked the Credit system in this way is because he firmly believes in nothing but quality. Quality posts = Quality hosting. Spammers do not get hosting.. well except for one spammer I guess

There is no point of a forum if there is nobody to participate in it, It would merely turn into a bank where you deposit/withdraw your money and then never visit it.. Trap17 was designed to provide knowledge and encourage friendship through quality

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An ability to "pause" your account, i.e. Your hosting account basically gets suspended but isn't terminated... After a set time the account becomes "unsuspended" During suspension, you don't lose any credits and to make it so that people won't abuse this feature don't or slowly get credits (i.e. only 60% of what you'd get for a 100 words or so).

An excellent and very useful idea but the most difficult to implement as it would involve a LOT of coding to make sure that credits are not deducted, to automatically suspend upon the click of a button and so on..

Instead of that I can always recommend that you deposit all of your credits in your bank(manage page) and then send a support request mentioning the period of inactivity and your login details. We will make an arrangement so that your site is not terminated but simply suspended..