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[OpaQue]

CREDIT SYSTEM v3.0 myCENTS ONLINE

Dear Members,

Thank you for supporting Xisto and its free web hosting services for all these years and as promised, I am proud to announce the launch of Credit System v3.0. Credit System 3.0 offers complete accounting of user posts which also counts features like views, popularity and reputation to help better distribution of cents. For More information on getting a Free Website using myCENTS - follow this link.

Unlike Credits, which used to represent 1 day of hosting, we now have a new point system called myCent. And yes, each mycent represents 1 American cent. The goal is to make good posts and gather 100 cents. Every time you cross 100, your mycents will be converted to US Dollar and deposited into XistoSupport.com Billing/Shopping area.

Ooooo... so where is this Billing/Shopping area?

http://www.xistosupport.com/billing/ - This is our official Billing & Support area where we have been servicing ComputingHost and Xisto clients. From today, even Trap17 and Astahost members are included

So where is my $?

To claim your earnings, simply register above with the same EMAIL which you are maintaining in our records at KnowledgeSutra.com. suppose, at KnowledgeSutra, your email address is ABC@ABC.COM, then the email used to register at XistoSupport.com should also be ABC@ABC.COM. Once linked, an account cannot unlink unless you want to freeze the forum account.

Similarly, you can maintain an account at KnowledgeSutra, Astahost and XistoSupport with the same e-mail and earn credits accordingly.

Your account will get linked automatically within 4-5 hours. Login to your account and you should be able to see Account Credit Balance: $X.xx. Your member information beside your post will carry myCENT field where you can check your CENT earning value. Once you earn more than 100 cents, it will be deposited automatically into XistoSupport.com Billing area.

SO WHATS NEW??

• LOTS AND LOTS OF PRODUCTS!
  
  • Domain Registration
    
  • Domain Forwarding Service
    
  • Dedicated IP
    
  • Managed DNS
    
  • Digital Certificates for SSL feature for your website.
    
  • Windows Hosting
    
  • Reseller Hosting
    
  • JSP Hosting
    
  • ColdFusion Hosting (planning...)
    
  • Website Builders
    
  • Corporate Mail Hosting
    
  • Virtual Private Servers
    
  • Wild-Card Domain feature
    
  • Shell Access. (eligible only after 3 months of hosting or Payment by Credit Card)
• Ability to Register Domains and adding orders.
  
• Credits earned as as good as real money.
  
• Ability to refer and gain affiliate earnings.
  
• Multiple Products.
  
• Ability to add Dollars directly using Credit Card.
  
• All post calculated.
  
• Popularity, Reputation, Ratings etc. many features. accounted while converting credits to dollars. Do not be surprised if your dollars increase out of no reason ;-)
  
• Secure Access to Support/Billing Area.
  
• Integrated Annoucements, Knowledgebase, Troubleshooter, Downloads etc. inside the Billing Area.
  
• Server status page.
  
• An Integrated Control Panel to manage your Domains & Hosting and any other order with Xisto.
  
• `CENT feature to make sure you do not get debited in case any of your post gets marked as spam. :-)
  
• AstaHost Forums and Trap17 Forums will earn credits individually and deposit the money in your account at XistoSupport.com. So members are free to post anywhere provided the E-mail address is maintained on the registration profile is same.
  
• CHOICE OF SUB-DOMAIN. (xxx.astahost.com) (xxx.trap17.com) ( more to be added )
  
• Multi-Language Control Panel

I hope you all enjoy this new version of Credit.. myCent System

Instructions for New Members

SIMPLE STEPS TO START/SETUP/MAKE YOUR WEBSITE AT THE BEST FREE WEB HOSTING SITE -> KnowledgeSutra
( these steps are for those people who are extremely impatient and want to get started without reading the instruction manual )

• Signup here (our forum), Contribute & Share knowledge by discussing here. Everytime you post here, you get points called "myCENTS". You will receive funds automatically when you post and you will be alerted on your email. Once your earning is about $2, you can buy a website package at Shopping Area. Participate in this forum to earn myCENTS. (Please observe forum discipline instructions strictly)
  
• Signup at our Shopping Area, This is the area where your earnings (myCENTS) from forum participation will be deposited. This money can be used to buy any of our products using myCENTS. You are not required to have any credit-card and there is no age limit.

myCENTS : We have a point system called "myCENT". And yes, each myCENT represents 1 American "cent". The goal is to make good posts and gather 100 cents. Every time you cross 100, your cents will be converted to US Dollar and deposited into XistoSupport.com Billing/Shopping area.

You Get myCENT when you make a POST. ( the thing you are reading right now is also a post, posted by ME, OpaQue :-) ) If you are familier with forums, you must be knowing what is a post.

myCENTS DEPENDS UPON :-

- Size of Post
- Post Title and Description ( Try to give as good title and description as possible )
- Popularity of your post (will add to credit balance as it grows)
- The Topic or category where you are posting.*

Instructions for Existing Members
Register at our Billing & Support Area and use the same email which is in our Forum Records.

• After 5 hours, You should be able to see your Account Credit Balance inside XistoSupport.com
  
• Your credit balance (in USD, collected by forum participation) is used to buy products and services of ComputingHost.com (ComputingHost offers personalized website & e-mail solutions)

Existing Members: Do I have to collect myCENTS all over again?.

No, Your previous posts from the date your sign-ed up are not lost and you get USD's for that automatically after you sign-up at Billing & Support.

Existing Members: Will my Existing Web Hosting Account be deleted after HOSTING CREDITS SYSTEM expires?

Yes, After we discontinue Hosting Credits System, it will soon cause the linked account to get automatically deleted from the Server.
To secure this account, You must activate myCENTS and then Order a Package with the same domain name as your Old one.
You are now safe as your entire Billing & Support Relationship is now secured with Xisto.

Existing Members: Will I be ever asked to Pay? Do I need a Credit Card?

As long as you are active on our forums making good posts, You keep accumulating your myCENTS automatically. This is as good as real money and hence, you do not require any Credit Card, Age Proof or any Contracts.

Existing Members: Do I have to order a new Package of Hosting? What about my old Package?

Yes, you will have to order a Package by logging inside your Billing & Support Area.

If you want to continue with your OLD HOSTING PACKAGE :-

1. Use the same sub-domain name as before while ordering LOGIC PLAN.
2. In NOTES section (during order process), mention your cpanel username and password. It will be checked and your account will be upgraded/downgraded accordingly.

How to Order FREE HOSTING!
http://www.trap17.com/forums/free-web-host...ure-t61751.html (link fixed)

I want to discontinue my old account. I want a NEW SUB-DOMAIN.
Plan an order for a New Package as usual.

At the time of Sign-up, In the notes section please mention Delete My Old Trap17/AstaHost Account, I understand that this will cause all my data to be erased from the Server Permanently.

Can I buy MULTIPLE Packages?
Yes.


Can I buy a Domain First and then use it to buy a hosting? Till then what about my previous account?
First, Secure your Previous account by buying a package with a domain same as the old one. After that, plan a domain. Because, we can change your domain for your account anytime

What Package do you recommend for Starters, What would be the estimated Price?
The Logic Plan at $1.95 is the best suitable plan for starters. More information can be found at : www.computinghost.com
Basically, every package at ComputingHost.com can be purchased using your earned "MyCENTS"


Best Regards,



Shree
Xisto Web Solutions.

[midnightvamp]

Sounds like you've added some really great feature to have. I just got the email today saying that my new account is up and running... so I wanted to come here and check it out. I'll have to spend more time later figuring it all out though, because I'm about to leave for the weekend in just a little while. But before I do, I just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to always make this place better! That's why I love being here so much Great service that gets better and better! You rock

[Nabb]

WHOO

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Credit System 3.0 offers complete accounting of user posts which also counts features like views, popularity and reputation to help better distribution of cents.

This is so awesome. As is all the other new features! Hail OpaQue!

[TheDisturbedOne]

I have one question. Do I have to register with the billing to start earning 'cents'?
Thanks, and looks great!

[Nabb]

I would assume so, read this part:

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So where is my $?
To claim your earnings, simply register above with the same EMAIL which you are maintaining in our records at Trap17.com.

I nearly entered a different email, gmail lets me arbitrarily add and remove periods, which I tend to do.. o_o

[TheDisturbedOne]

I registered anyway. I can't wait for it to kick in.

[Saint_Michael]

Yes you have to register in order to use the myCENT in order to purchase computinghost packages from your posts in trap17. So if you want to have your own reseller account or the uber VPS package then posting quality is a most in order to maximize your earnings. Also for those who have already registered you iwll notice an affiliation link and so if you get friends or family who are looking for some paid hosting give them your affiliation link and when they go purchase one of the many packages on computing host you will earn a nice little profit for your credit account.

Of course still need some clarification that and as usual no posting your affiliation link in trap17 as it kind of defeats the purpose of spreading computinghost services.

[Bluebear]

This sounds great. I suppose I have to learn a lot of stuff all over again now. "Multi-Language Control Panel" - Awww, do you have mine?

[bittr]

It sounds ok and nice, but from this first post I didn't understand a lot about how the system will work.
I think you should do a full document explaining how the credits will be converted, how will we get those credits (how much the views, popularity, etc count to them) and if and how the two systems (Credit System 2.0 and 3.0) will work in paralel for the starting phase.

I have specifically some questions:
1. If 1 credit will be converted to 1 cent, it means that we still lose 1 cent per day? (And in other words, that my posting for 3 months values 1 lousy US Dollar?)
2. The restriction applying when you accumulate large sums of credits (as that you get less credit per post) will be lifted? Because otherwise it's quite hard to get to 100 credit and so to have domething in your account.
3. This new system is just for people with lots of credits? I usually keep a constant amount of about 10-20 credits, so it doesn't look that this things are directed to someone like me.

Anyway, thanks for the continued interest to make trap17 better, Opaque.

Last added question: Do I have to register now to this new system?

Edited by bittr, 18 October 2008 - 03:51 PM.

[Saint_Michael]

bittr, on Oct 18 2008, 11:50 AM, said:

It sounds ok and nice, but from this first post I didn't understand a lot about how the system will work.
I think you should do a full document explaining how the credits will be converted, how will we get those credits (how much the views, popularity, etc count to them) and if and how the two systems (Credit System 2.0 and 3.0) will work in paralel for the starting phase.

I have specifically some questions:
1. If 1 credit will be converted to 1 cent, it means that we still lose 1 cent per day? (And in other words, that my posting for 3 months values 1 lousy US Dollar?)
2. The restriction applying when you accumulate large sums of credits (as that you get less credit per post) will be lifted? Because otherwise it's quite hard to get to 100 credit and so to have do something in your account.
3. This new system is just for people with lots of credits? I usually keep a constant amount of about 10-20 credits, so it doesn't look that this things are directed to someone like me.

Anyway, thanks for the continued interest to make trap17 better, Opaque.

Last added question: Do I have to register now to this new system?

Yeah its a bit confusing as well but I try my best to answer your questions

1. No you will still be earning your hosting credits but you will also be earning cents as well, so you working on earning two different things while only your hosting credits go down while your cents accumalate.

2. I believe the earning rate is quite different for myCENT's then it is for your hosting credits, although quality posting is more important then ever I don't believe the two are tied together. That is a guess though since I don't know what the ratio is at this time but that is the reason to ask questions and those who know it, the admin, will be able to explain everything.

3. No it is for everyone, just like I explain in your first question as you post you will earn cents, so regardless how many hosting credits you have your cents will accumlate over time and will only be deducted if you posts a computinghost plan or top level domain.

your last question yes, if yo uwant to earn myCENTS you need to register through the billing site in order to accumlate money through your posting.

[xpress]

Thanks bittr, I have some similar doubts. You saved me from lot of typing.

I have another question.

OpaQue, on Oct 18 2008, 06:40 PM, said:

AstaHost Forums and Trap17 Forums will earn credits individually and deposit the money in your account at XistoSupport.com. So members are free to post anywhere provided the E-mail address is maintained on the registration profile is same

Does this means, if I register an account at AstaHost forums with the same email address I registered here, and started posting at AstaHost forums, the amount will be added to my xistosupport account? Does this means, I can be active at the two forums simultaneously?

Anyway, very interesting additions with the version 3 of credit system. I am very happy.

[bittr]

Saint_Michael, on Oct 18 2008, 05:03 PM, said:

1. No you will still be earning your hosting credits but you will also be earning cents as well, so you working on earning two different things while only your hosting credits go down while your cents accumalate.

Thanks for trying to clear up my questions, SM.

As for this part I quoted from your post, I think the credits will disappear totally, and we'll have cents for hosting days too.
At least, this is what I get from Opaque's words: "unlike credits, which used to represent 1 day of hosting"

OpaQue, on Oct 18 2008, 02:10 PM, said:

Unlike Credits, which used to represent 1 day of hosting, we now have a new point system called "cent". And yes, each cent represents 1 American "cent". The goal is to make good posts and gather 100 cents. Every time you cross 100, your cents will be converted to US Dollar and deposited into XistoSupport.com Billing/Shopping area.

[Evolix]

Wow, I love the new features and everything. Thanks for telling me about the new Credit System version, looks great.

[rpgsearcherz]

Very nice system! I've got it all down now, thanks to Saint, however there does seem to be a minor issue.

More or less when it first started it transferred the initial amount to Xisto's account, but left the CENTS in the forum account as well(Which was almost 600) so it ended up ignoring my later posts last night(It's now zero'd but nothing else got transferred).

Aside from that, all is good and again, you guys are awesome!


Edit : Actually, looking at other accounts as well of people who post here all the time, it seems everyone is stuck at zero...Is this normal?

Edited by rpgsearcherz, 18 October 2008 - 06:29 PM.

[iXeta]

Been looking the system over for a good 15-30 minutes, looks pretty beast.
One question tho, what the conversion rate from Trap17 day/points to myCENTS?
Maybe someone put it in here but I don't see it. And I'm waiting for my account
to link to figure it out.

Edit: And yes, I win the retardation badge, I missed that explanation of cents by SM xD

Edited by iXeta, 18 October 2008 - 07:31 PM.

[Saint_Michael]

xpress, on Oct 18 2008, 12:03 PM, said:

Thanks bittr, I have some similar doubts. You saved me from lot of typing.

I have another question.
Does this means, if I register an account at AstaHost forums with the same email address I registered here, and started posting at AstaHost forums, the amount will be added to my xistosupport account? Does this means, I can be active at the two forums simultaneously?

Anyway, very interesting additions with the version 3 of credit system. I am very happy.

From the looks of it yes, but odds are if caught cheating the system by double posting your money making post expect both accounts to be terminated in someway or start losing money. Of course, I haven't seen the credit system been added to astahost, but the forums there are in need of a forum upgrade to 2.3 or whatever version is being used right now on trap in order to prevent any errors from happening.

bittr, on Oct 18 2008, 01:22 PM, said:

Thanks for trying to clear up my questions, SM.

As for this part I quoted from your post, I think the credits will disappear totally, and we'll have cents for hosting days too.
At least, this is what I get from Opaque's words: "unlike credits, which used to represent 1 day of hosting"

Well unlike the hosting that go through the 1 credit per day loss, your cents count will be reset to zero once you make a dollar and that dollar will be transferred over to the other account.

rpgsearcherz, on Oct 18 2008, 02:19 PM, said:

Very nice system! I've got it all down now, thanks to Saint, however there does seem to be a minor issue.

More or less when it first started it transferred the initial amount to Xisto's account, but left the CENTS in the forum account as well(Which was almost 600) so it ended up ignoring my later posts last night(It's now zero'd but nothing else got transferred).

Aside from that, all is good and again, you guys are awesome!
Edit : Actually, looking at other accounts as well of people who post here all the time, it seems everyone is stuck at zero...Is this normal?

Yeah I notice that as well and most of my posts today should be counting the cents and it has been about 11 hours since I started posting on the new system and no changes yet. So I would assume that it is turn off at the moment, which I doubt or its going to take a few days for the script to fully kick in.

iXeta, on Oct 18 2008, 03:25 PM, said:

Been looking the system over for a good 15-30 minutes, looks pretty beast.
One question tho, what the conversion rate from Trap17 day/points to myCENTS?
Maybe someone put it in here but I don't see it. And I'm waiting for my account
to link to figure it out.

Edit: And yes, I win the retardation badge, I missed that explanation of cents by SM xD

it happens to the best of us, and most of my posts about this so far are between what i was told what it was about and then trying to fill in the blanks from there.

[Nabb]

Wait so CENTs and credits are completely separate - credits are used to remain hosted and the real money is used for real purchases and not deducted daily?

Doesn't that mean you can buy trap17 credits with the CENTs to effectively double the credits you make per post? Also, does this new system mean we can purchase domains without having to store up 250 credits?

I'm so questioning today

[rpgsearcherz]

That's my understanding....So far, unless there's some missing information.

Wondering when our CENTS will be updated though. So far there haven't been any updates since early last night,

Any input from a mod or higher would be appreciated regarding it.

[BuffaloHelp]

Nabb, on Oct 18 2008, 09:46 PM, said:

Wait so CENTs and credits are completely separate - credits are used to remain hosted and the real money is used for real purchases and not deducted daily?

No. We are no longer referring it as hosting credits. Instead, as you contribute to our forum you gain CENTs. Yes, I know I think it should be CENTS rather than CENT. Anyway, as you contribute you collect CENT and when you reach 100 CENT, your forum will show as ZERO and the credit gets DEPOSIT to your BILLING account. You can see the updated balance in 4-5 hours under ACCOUNT CREDIT BALANCE.

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Doesn't that mean you can buy trap17 credits with the CENTs to effectively double the credits you make per post? Also, does this new system mean we can purchase domains without having to store up 250 credits?

You don't have to buy anything. The conversion and deposit is performed all automatically. There's no need for admin's approval for newbies for hosting request. As long as required balance is gained anyone can activate a free web hosting. To purchase "hosting credits" as you put it, all you need to do is deposit money from your PayPal or other ComputingHost payment types.

As for the real conversion factor in "how much of posts/words equals how many CENT" is OpaQue's own calculation. Please do not ask for this value. All you need to understand is quality post would bring higher CENT than one-liner.

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I'm so questioning today

Yes, and this board is here to answer as best as we can

[rpgsearcherz]

BuffaloHELP, on Oct 19 2008, 02:20 AM, said:

No. We are no longer referring it as hosting credits. Instead, as you contribute to our forum you gain CENTs. Yes, I know I think it should be CENTS rather than CENT. Anyway, as you contribute you collect CENT and when you reach 100 CENT, your forum will show as ZERO and the credit gets DEPOSIT to your BILLING account. You can see the updated balance in 4-5 hours under ACCOUNT CREDIT BALANCE.

Okay, just to confirm, this means that we will be earning the CENTs instead of hosting credits. So more or less we will not obtain our credits *and* cents, but it will just be the cents, which we will start using to 'purchase' our hosting, instead of our credits we currently use?

(Meaning, you are planning on doing away with the hosting credits - 1/day requirement - altogether once this is completely finished?)

Or will we still be able to use our hosting credits and bank the CENTs on top of that? I'm not quite understanding how it all is going to work now.

[Saint_Michael]

It might be me I am not to sure, but I have to receive any cents or anything, I know I been getting my hosting credits and what not but not any cents, anyone else have that problem yet after registering?

[rpgsearcherz]

Nah, seems everyone is having that issue.

You did get your initial payment though, right?

[BuffaloHelp]

Hosting credit mod is still infused with the current forum. So you will still see hosting credits accumulating on your index page. When we upgrade forum to next version, OpaQue will not be implementing the current (now old) hosting credit IP.Board mod and you will no longer see the hosting credit numbers.

It is still unclear how OpaQue wants to perform, but for those who have not signed up with the Billing, you are seeing myCENT values, i.e. current rpgsearcherz's myCENT is 69.22

If you have signed up with the Billing, your CENTs have been transferred. I see my credit balance being updated as scheduled.

We are still working out the details on how we are going to approach purchasing plans. But here is a brief introduction:

1) a member posts and stays active in Trap17 forum
2) contributing in the forum earns myCENT
3) myCENT is converted to Account Credit Balance
4) a member then purchases ComputingHost hosting plan with Account Credit Balance for free web hosting
5) a member can purchase any hosting plan, such as PLAN 3S, $33.33 a year. (A special lower price might be available for first time buyer, because to earn $33 might be too long)
6) there after, a member will renew his/her hosting with said $33.33 Account Credit
7) Account Credit Balance may or may not decrease as Hosting Credits have in the past. Again, we're still working out the acceptable terms how we're going to approach this.
8) with leftover Account Credit Balance, a member can purchase other "paid" services from ComputingHost, without spending a single penny from a member's wallet.
9) when a moderator moderates this member's post, it will reflect directly on this member's Account Credit Balance. This is not negotiable.

[iXeta]

So what your saying is that with the myCENT feature, hosting won't be auto-renewed?
In my mind, your saying that the hosting on Trap17 will be converted into actual packages
on Xisto, so we'll all be having paid packages instead of the free one. At least thats just
the way it sounds to me. But I got my initial payment linked on ComputingHost and it
seems like its a pretty sweet payment rate. I think it will definitely make me think about
more tutorials and such xD

Oh and I almost forgot, under Misc, it says you can order Trap17 credits, but when I click
on it, it says this package requires a domain name, so I'm wondering if thats just a glitch or what o.O

Edited by iXeta, 19 October 2008 - 04:47 PM.

[daftpunk]

This is a really good improvement from credit system 2.0!
I really Like Credit system 3.0 looks brilliant!