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[ahmed1412]

A few weeks ago, i downloaded a live-cd for Linux Ubuntu 8.4 and booted it from the cd. It was not as bad as i had thought (although i had trouble booting ) but REALY SLOW. So i installed Ubuntu and was pretty nice . From my experience from vista and ubuntu i have to say vista still stands number for me. Which one do you think is better?

[jlhaslip]

Ubuntu 8.04 is running excellently on my Laptop, which has only 1 Gig Ram, which Vista might have an issue with. I know that this machine is supposed to meet the specs for Vista, but many people I know that have bigger, faster machines are out performed by the Ubuntu 8.04 I have running.

Took a little effort to get used to some Linux stuff, and there are some softwares I miss that i would like to have on the Laptop, but overall, I am quite happy with the Linux.

[truefusion]

Ubuntu 8.10 seems to work faster and has better hardware support. Switching back to Ubuntu from Gentoo showed to be a bit surprising performance-wise. But ever since i switched to Linux, Windows machines have brought dissapointment to where it makes me want to install Linux on those computers. I find myself to be more productive on a Linux machine and plan to come out with my own Ubuntu-based distro some day. I don't see myself ever going back to Windows.

[saitunes]

I haven't worked extensively with ubuntu or Vista, but on the small experience I have had. I would take Ubuntu over Vista. Me Being a Mac user, I would definitely take something other than windows Vista. I don't mind XP. But It needs a bit of stripping down which I have done and it runs quite smoothly on my mac in VirtualBox, with 64Mb of Ram. Runs really well on the old Box, it has a 1.8GHz and 512Mb Ram...

Ubuntu definitely over vista.

[rpgsearcherz]

For me, I would definitely have to go with Vista. I play a lot of games so it really is not much of a choice.

In terms of reliability and speed, the others were definitely right : Go with Ubuntu. I hate Vista with a passion, so really I would drop that and go for XP instead, . Less resources, faster, etc.

[liod]

I run both ubuntu and vista on my PC.
But i like to use ubuntu on my laptop.

[iGuest]

ZeealpalLinux Ubuntu Vs Windows Vista

Ubuntu is definatally better. Cheaper, faster, better graphic effects (compiz fusion) and on my 3 year old computer fire fox 3 starts up in less than a second in Live CD mode. I play my games on it using Wine (free) and mostly CrossOver and CrossOver Games (same thing almost) and that allows me to run any widows program on Ubuntu. And the run fater most of the time as well!

-reply by Alan

[mbafactory]

Yes Windows is better than any other OS and I bet, you might go to other OS just for sake of testing it or having a feel of it, but when it will come to other features of OS and more things you would like to do with your PC, you will come to know, Windows is the best. I have installed Ubuntu quite a few times, looks soothe too, but easiness and expandability of operations makes me come back to Windows.

[encryptedwrath]

Ignoring price , which can ruin arguments by simply saying - it costs less , I'd have to say Vista. People all over the world complain how bad it is , but I have had no problems with it so far. It may be a complete coding rewrite but it's not the epic failure people are making it out to be. I've tried Ubuntu , and it runs fine but the lack of programs that I can use for design and coding are excruciating. I use windows because over a billion people hae access to it , and there is never a lack of software or help/community.
That's my oponion

[Tramposch]

I used Ubuntu for about a month, and thought it was absolutely amazing. The only reason I would boot into Vista was for syncing my iPhone. Then I wanted to install OS X and had no room for it...Then I got Vista Ultimate 64bit and never looked back. But from my experience with Ubuntu it was great. It took a while to get used to it from using Windows so long. The main hump was the installing business. I still don't fully understand it. But if it was in Synaptics package manager, I could handle it. I even consider myself a pretty advanced user. But I guess that is in Windows and OS X. Ubuntu definitely earned some respect in the time I used it.

The massive amounts of themes available is great too. And, while I couldn't get it to work, Beryl with Emerald themes would be awesome. My friend uses it and he just raves and raves about it. And you can get it to look exactly like Vista, and it will use less power than actually running Vista would. Funny, isn't it?

Ubuntu definitely was a lot more power-conscious. I noticed big speed differences between it and Vista and even it and OS X or Windows 7. Ubuntu is definitely something to check out. Just plan on spending a bit of time to get used to it. It is something you can come to love.

All of this IS coming from a person who only used it for a month and doesn't any more. I am writing this review using Windows Vista Ultimate. So if you think I am a fan boy, I am not. I am more of an Apple fan boy than anything.

[iGuest]

Replying to Tramposch

 I run both Vista and Ubuntu and Ubuntu can run all programs that Vista can and more. Vista crashed after twodays on a new PC because of an update, so I prefer all Linux dist. Including Ubuntu and Fedora-reply by josh

[mas_fey]

I used to have Dual boot comp. (vista and Ubuntu). I just use vista for gaming and Ubuntu for everyday activity.

Ubuntu is easy to use for starter, and with linux kernel i think i dont have to much worry about virus.

[rpgsearcherz]

I never really thought about dual-booting the two OS's together...I did that once a long time ago, but lately I just find it easier to use one OS with all of my stuff on it.

Does Linux come with the "Atheros" drivers though?(for Wifi cards). Or do I need to download those separately?

If I don't have to go out on some wild goose chase for drivers I may attempt to dual boot.

[cemeteryrecords]

...Linux vs. Windows....this...this is a joke, right? You guys were like, "Lets mess with cem-rec" right?


Just incase you guys are serious...

*Windows:

Virus Friendly
Slow
Expensive
Mean
Crash Friendly
(If bill gates had a dollar for every time windows crashed....oh wait...he does..)

*Linux

NOT virus Friendly
NOT crash Friendly
NOT expensive
NOT mean (lol)
NOT slow

^If I were to go as far into this as I could, I'd be the richest guy on trap17, hands down.

But here's a general summery.

[rpgsearcherz]

cemeteryrecords, on Jan 10 2009, 02:15 AM, said:

...Linux vs. Windows....this...this is a joke, right? You guys were like, "Lets mess with cem-rec" right?


Just incase you guys are serious...

*Windows:

Virus Friendly
Slow
Expensive
Mean
Crash Friendly
(If bill gates had a dollar for every time windows crashed....oh wait...he does..)

*Linux

NOT virus Friendly
NOT crash Friendly
NOT expensive
NOT mean (lol)
NOT slow

^If I were to go as far into this as I could, I'd be the richest guy on trap17, hands down.

But here's a general summery.

You forgot to add this part:


Windows ---

Games WORK...(Albeit sometimes they crash, have memory leaks, etc.)


Linux ---

Games are NOT supported. Most DON'T work



For me that is the only thing keeping me away. Games. If I were not a gamer Windows would have nothing holding me back.

Come onnnnnnn Linux. Pick up and start allowing us to play AOC/Lineage II/etc. on your system!

[cemeteryrecords]

What about running a virtual machine? LIke VMWare? Would that not solve your Linux gaming problem? And I agree, MUCH more should be written for Linux.

[rpgsearcherz]

cemeteryrecords, on Jan 10 2009, 02:34 AM, said:

What about running a virtual machine? LIke VMWare? Would that not solve your Linux gaming problem? And I agree, MUCH more should be written for Linux.

My issue is that if I'm going to use an OS, I want it to just be one...

I could VMWare Linux as well(and have) in order to use that as a primary OS.

I would just rather have one OS that I use for literally everything. I would be able to deck it out, customize it, etc.

I've done that work before with Windows, and am too lazy to do it again.

But as for VMWare - if I were doing that I might as well dual boot.

[cemeteryrecords]

Yea, I see where your coming from, That's why I dual boot too. BT2 is my main, and Xp for recording purposes. But if I ever find a good equivelent to those programs...BAM!!! *kicks windows out the window*

[triplebtalk]

Well I have experience with many operating systems and I will offer my views on both:

Windows Vista: I personally love this operating system and I have never had a problem with it. The main problem with Vista is the annoying program compatibility messages that they ask you. Another small issue is the over use of warning messages, I know they are good for security, but it annoys me when all I want to do is put a file into my testing server and I have to agree to an "Elevated Action". What I like about VIsta is the new interface. I know that it is easy to install on Ubuntu, but I really like the functionality of Vista's interface. One issue I have with the interface is the semi-transparent sidebar, it pops up when you accidentally click the icon in the time bar (or whatever it is called). What I know is that Vista is not as bad as people make it out to be. The main issue that affects me when ever I have 5 Adobe CS3 programs open, is that everything slows down. I know that in Windows XP I can open up 7-8 Adobe CS3 programs at once before it starts to slow down. Otherwise I really enjoy the experience with this hardware heavy operating system.

Ubuntu 8.1: This is definitely my favourite Linux distribution and the easiest one to use. Not only does this operating system go VERY fast, it also can run Windows programs through the Windows Emulator WineHQ, I can run Illustrator and all my other favourite programs through Linux and have absolutely no need for Windows. Other than all the lovely things about Ubuntu, I have problems with the installation of files, I am really sick of Compiling, Installing and then Adding the Program. Another issue is the difficulty of the interface that I can sometimes find VERY annoying to use. The Menu Bar at the top of each page is annoying to use and it would be nicer to have a similar menu bar to that of the Windows bar. Other than the fact of the installation and interface, I love Ubuntu because it is VERY easy to use and I have never had a single issue with it, the program is secure and very virus safe.

So out of either of those I would definitely say that neither of them win. This "war of the operating system's" is pointless because each operating system is completely different and each one does something unique. I would say that it is noce to have Windows for the worldwide compatibility, but it is also nice to have Ubuntu because it is so interesting to use.

Edited by triplebtalk, 10 January 2009 - 02:54 PM.

[ragav.bpl]

I'll go for vista ultimate as you have a variety of software available for it and i usually use a lot of software for different purpose....
Where as ubuntu is not that good at running all the softwares and i tooo likes to play games but linux doesn't support many of them ......

For speed the credit really goes to ubuntu but for ease of use and variety of use VIsta takes the lead

[galexcd]

mbafactory, on Dec 19 2008, 10:44 AM, said:

I have installed Ubuntu quite a few times, looks soothe too, but easiness and expandability of operations makes me come back to Windows.

And the frequent crashing, compatibility issues, terrible/non-customizable UI, poor design, viruses, slow boot times, and the constant presence of microsoft should make you come right back around to linux.

[aloKNsh]

hey vista is cool for its of ms
but its not as secure as ubuntu.
Ubuntu is very much secure............but not as open as vista for newbies
so first try to understand the function of ubuntu and then i thnk its the best os 4 u
and the internet connection in ubuntu is also vey fast

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[Veradesigns]

Well as for security ...I don't really know much about Vista. Except I don't like it. It doesn't seem like there is much difference between it an xp besides navigating it. I also suppose that any computer that is always being run from the root/ administrator account is not secure. That is my understanding of why linux is secure and relatively virus safe. You are not root so you don't have the privilige of installing virii , but I am a n00b and my view is probably over simplified. I have had lots of trouble with vista ( at least as much trouble as having to learn linux)
Vista costs a butt load of money, has problems with apps, and is all about drm.
linux. not quite as much native hardware support, you need to read more...well more than vs. xp , but vista has lots o' problems too so maybe you have to read as much as you do in linux for vista.

vista: pretty and getting more stable ..newest service pack frees up a lot of resources.

Linux: hands down has the best eye-candy out there ( compiz-fusion)
Open source so not only is it free but the source code is released so programmers worldwide are always fixing, tweaking, and updating it to make a better and better os.

Well in conclusion as far as security goes although it may appear to the average person that windows is everwhere *nix servers run the world, and that can't be because Windows is more secure.

[novoAlias]

My sister got a laptop recently and her computer fell into disuse. So we decided to turn it into an entertainment PC.

The previous install was a buggy version of windows XP, i'm not sure how it happened but it was refusing to read everything down to usb thumb drives from the OS. As a result I ended up putting Ubuntu on a USB stick and installing it by booting from it in BIOS. One problem I spent a long time fixing is the NVIDIA drivers refused to display 1280X1024 on the 42" Display... I ended up learning all about admin rights and xconfig just to fix that problem. After that I installed the basics along with compiz fusion and I have to say... It's a polished OS.

The visual elements are better looking, more featured and less buggy than anything in XP or Vista, and when I have had a crash it's been fixable by force closing and re-opening the software in question. Ubuntu isn't as lightning fast as I expected, but then the kit is about 4 years old now and I have just about every feature switched on.

I liked the old windows XP with litestep as it was bloody fast and very stable (litestep replaced the juggernaut explorer and takes almost no space in ram, while looking good at the same time) but it didn't want to install on my SATA drives as a result. I do alot of work with photoshop, adobe flash and others so I can't use Ubuntu (Not going to run WINE thanks) even though I really want to. I did however get my mitts on windows 7, so as soon as I have a drive big enough to backup and reformat, I'm going to try out the next generation goodness, If that doesn't work out I guess it's going to be whatever it takes to have a XP/Ubuntu install.

As for vista? Never liked it, it tries too hard and still doesn't get anywhere. It hangs at odd times and force closing processes doesn't actually work... Resulting in crashes that resemble a mammoth after someone shoots it with an LSD dart, long, drawn out and painful/hilarious to watch.

[iGuest]

gaming in ubuntuLinux Ubuntu Vs Windows Vista

I have used ubuntu since I got sick of losing access to all the tweaks and things that you used to be able to do in windows (3.1, 95, 98), as of XP SP2 I got annoyed with how babied the user becomes, I decided to switch to linux which I have been using ever since, went past a few distro's before I fell in love with ubuntu (7.10), I installed windows server 2008 on my gaming machine, but then I started browsing the WINE application database and found that 90% of the games I play run easilly under WINE, I re-installed ubuntu (8.10) on my gaming machine and own all my friends on COD4 on their vista powered machines with their better hardware, because vista makes their game lag where ubuntu doesnt, there is almost nothing that can be done in windows that cant be done better in linux

-reply by Person1873