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[OpaQue]

Trap17 Forums is now powered by Revenue Sharing Engine. This means, We will be showing ads on our forums and you take the share of the revenue earned. Advertisements are text-links and I am sure this would be the most profitable type of ads which are clean and pleasant to the user. The revenue is earned on click basis. Kontera and Xisto have partnered to provide this solution. They know about this service and they have accepted to sponsor our forums through our revenue sharing engine.

Using your Revenue Sharing Control inside MyControls section of forums, Update your PUBLISHER CODE at Kontera (which requires sign-up with their Service) and the color of the AD-Links. However, you will not be allowed to view your own ad to prevent accidental clicks.


The best way to earn revenue would be by starting Unique Topics which are not only NEW to us but also new to the Web. We encourage you to spread your topic links and attract good traffic to your articles. We suggest the following to make the most of this ad-revenue system :-

• Choose your Title & Description carefully. Make them as RELEVANT & INFORMATIVE compared to your Content/Post as possible.
  
• Make posts filled with lot of valuable content.
  
• Spread the links of your articles.
  
• Subscribe to your Topics to get alerts for any Replies.
  
• Use your Signature to Popularize your most important Articles on Trap17
  
• If you can give a lot of Original and Detailed information about a certain topic, Consider making a new Topic!
  
• Avoid SPAMMING at all costs. The WARNS/BANS will prove you very expensive!

Our TextLink Ads are displayed based on the following probability:

• Percentage of time site owner's ads will display: 1%
  
  
• Percentage of time topic starter's ads will display: 39%
  
  
• Percentage of time last poster's ads will display: 1%
  
  
• Percentage of time any other poster's ads will display: 59%

More information:

http://www.trap17.co...revenue-sharing

Advertisements are presently visible to Logged in members and Guests. And only the advertisements shown on the Topic Pages are shared. The rest of the pages are not shared. (eg. Forum Index, Gallery etc) The Banner Ad (not link ads) shown on Trap17 (to guests) are not a part of this Revenue sharing program.

Important Point: No Ads are shown on the sites hosted by Trap17/ComputingHost.com. This topic considers only the Ads displayed on this forum.

We welcome all contributing members to update your PUBLISHER CODE and grab your share of revenue by forum advertisements. Further instructions are explained in the link above :-)

The present Credit System is not affected due to this upgrade and is independent of this new revenue sharing service offered by us. We wish to see lot of joy & smiles coming this new year!


Warmest Regards,


Trap17 Team!

[Plenoptic]

I think this is a pretty cool idea. I guess this makes the tags for the page very important as well now seeing as the ads will probably be based off them as well and the more people that come to the page the better chance they will click the ads. Great work OpaQue, always finding new features that benefit all. That's why I love this place.

[xpress]

Yes.....very great idea. No other forum has these type of excitement features and surprises. Trap17 is great. Even though I have small doubts regarding this adrevenue sharing, I had already registered at Kontera and saved my pubisher id in Advertising Settings at MyControls. Let us wait and see how it works...

OpaQue, on Dec 3 2008, 07:45 PM, said:

When you are not viewing a topic, any ads displayed will belong to the site administrator. However, when you are viewing a topic, we will shuffle between the site administrator's ads, and the ad accounts of the topic starter, last poster, and other posters based on a probability factor.

Does it mean I'll get revenue only when I'm online and viewing that particular topic? (ofcourse only if someone clicked the link) and I should have a post in that topic, to show ads with my publisher id? And if I'm offline...no ads with my id?

[Nabb]

Oh I didn't pick up on that which xpress quoted - could we get some clarification on that? My interpretation is that it means user-linked ads are only for the forum threads, and not for other pages such as the home page. Is this correct?

(PS: this post is me xpressing what I'm thinking and is not so I can be last poster )

[harrison858]

Very clever, OpaQue! You get money for displaying the ads and part of that goes to us, which benifits all 3 parties. I like that. Great work!

This could be almost as a second incentive for posting on the Trap17 forums which makes the Credit System more useful than it already is. Its easy too, just enter information and wait for text link to appear.


Thank you, OpaQue. You're a good and clever leader, as always

Edited by harrison858, 03 December 2008 - 06:43 PM.

[Saint_Michael]

Interesting idea, and now people will stop posting their referral links , but of course now trap17 members will have a source of income to help pay for their hosting to help cover the costs with the use of Mycents. So it should be interesting if anyone makes a profit from this, but the one problem I will see thought is that eventually the forum will be one giant link, but odds are the mod that was used to set this up is customizable to prevent that. Either way it should be interesting how this ad revenue works out.

[Spyda]

Well does anybody know how Kontera pays out? Just by looking at their site, it seems as if they only pay via checks through the mail. Does anybody know if they payout via paypal at all?

[Saint_Michael]

Well, another problem I was thinking of is what are the odds of members clicking on their own links when they show up? The reason I ask that I look at their knowledge base and they frown upon clicking your own links and stuff like that.

[xpress]

bk2070, on Dec 4 2008, 05:53 AM, said:

Well does anybody know how Kontera pays out? Just by looking at their site, it seems as if they only pay via checks through the mail. Does anybody know if they payout via paypal at all?

Yes......PayPal Option is also available. Anotehr option is also there. That is Wire transfer. So three payout options totally...Check, Wire and PayPal.

Saint_Michael, on Dec 4 2008, 06:23 AM, said:

Well, another problem I was thinking of is what are the odds of members clicking on their own links when they show up? The reason I ask that I look at their knowledge base and they frown upon clicking your own links and stuff like that.

Yes...Thats also a point to notice. But we don't know whose ads are displaying at that moment. They may be ours or some other posters or may be the site owners....they display randomly as per the calculations OpaQue made, I think.

Edited by xpress, 04 December 2008 - 01:33 AM.

[Nabb]

xpress, on Dec 4 2008, 12:29 PM, said:

Yes...Thats also a point to notice. But we don't know whose ads are displaying at that moment. They may be ours or some other posters or may be the site owners....they display randomly as per the calculations OpaQue made, I think.

But seeing as we input a colour for our links, you should probably be able to spot your links via the colour! Maybe we shouldn't be able to pick the colour? =|

edit) hey! you sneakily changed the percentages!

Also a question: Since not all the users here are going to use this (for example all the users that haven't been around for years but still have posts in old threads), if they are the last poster or topic starter, does the ad displayed belong to the site admins? And in the case of a 'random poster', does it pick a random poster with an account for the advertisements, or would it pick an arbitrary poster and have the ad linked to the administrator if they do not have a specified publisher ID?

Edited by Nabb, 04 December 2008 - 10:47 AM.

[OpaQue]

Nabb @ I don't know. However, I m sure this Program gives all the extra bucks to me or atleast I hope it tries to keep me the most happy. That's why I changed the percentages and reduced my earning % even further.

[xpress]

Hi Opaque please answer my this question posted by me earlier.

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Does it mean I'll get revenue only when I'm online and viewing that particular topic? (ofcourse only if someone clicked the link) and I should have a post in that topic, to show ads with my publisher id? And if I'm offline...no ads with my id?

And also..the kontera ads are displaying at some improper places...for example they are displaying in Title of the topic...and at some members personal statement below avatar. The words(changed by ads) are looking annoying at those places. Is there anyway to contrlo the ads at those places?

[Saint_Michael]

A thought occured me to about this and that being link colors and that is because I saw someone choose pink, bleh. First is don't chose eye sore colors or colors that make text hard to read and also I don't know if it against the TOS but I would think everyone should list their color and that way people don't chose the same colors and make it a lot more complicated .

[OpaQue]

Saint_Michael, on Dec 5 2008, 12:51 AM, said:

A thought occured me to about this and that being link colors and that is because I saw someone choose pink, bleh. First is don't chose eye sore colors or colors that make text hard to read and also I don't know if it against the TOS but I would think everyone should list their color and that way people don't chose the same colors and make it a lot more complicated .

It was me who selected PINK!! for the main forums... Time to change...

[Lyon2]

First of all, your work as a team is inovative, motivating, original and fair, and those are a lot more qualities then anyother service alike on the internet, which makes me feel quite good to be a part and a member of the trap17 web project, comunity and network.

Now, concerning the topic title, kontera, and its relation to the trao17.com website members to be exact, i have a question, whish i hope is not lame, but since i did not use kontera service ever, i do not know, so my question is, do we register there as an advertiser or as a publisher?

The reason is that i do not know which is the proper and correct for us to register, so i expect your answer soon, i can not register untill i know which one i should use.

[ihost]

Hey,

Thats a pretty cool and interesting idea. This will be helping users a lot (mostly new ones I believe with new websites). Hope everything turns out fine with this!

Tim.

Edit: PS. the new forum look looks awesome! I like it. Some changements are always nice for the eyes mostly if you visit the website really often!

Edited by ihost, 04 December 2008 - 11:27 PM.

[OpaQue]

Lyon2, on Dec 5 2008, 04:39 AM, said:

First of all, your work as a team is inovative, motivating, original and fair, and those are a lot more qualities then anyother service alike on the internet, which makes me feel quite good to be a part and a member of the trap17 web project, comunity and network.

Now, concerning the topic title, kontera, and its relation to the trao17.com website members to be exact, i have a question, whish i hope is not lame, but since i did not use kontera service ever, i do not know, so my question is, do we register there as an advertiser or as a publisher?

The reason is that i do not know which is the proper and correct for us to register, so i expect your answer soon, i can not register untill i know which one i should use.

Please register at Kontera as Publisher :-) Just follow the link provided. http://www.trap17.co...revenue-sharing

[Saint_Michael]

My questions is do we put our own website on the list or trap17 because I recently got denied because of the lack of website I have and I guess I have to submit some other websites to help me out in the mean time and what not.

[adriantc]

I registered yesterday at Kontera and entered my User ID and color in My Controls... But I have a problem... The website fails (or at least I do) to find any links in any topic (mine or anybody's else). But I have noticed that after it loades the forum it tries to load something from Kontera (in Firefox it says transferring from ....kontera.com). The thing is when it finishes nothing has changed (or I fail to see it). Is it only me? Where are they supposed to be located?

[BuffaloHelp]

Yes, some advertisements are failing to load. This is not our end's problem but it's Kontera's fault. They are not providing ready advertisements.

Also remember that when you view your own topic you will NEVER see your own publisher ID's advertisements showing. You could be viewing the forum default or another poster's ads. Kontera also tracks your home IP address. Therefore you cannot even view your ads even as the guest mode (not logging into the forum). So be careful clicking your own ads by going through anonymous websites--Kontera will penalize you.

This took me some time to figure it out (poor OpaQue had to endure all my questions ). The results are in and I just made $0.20 in one day through Trap17. Woo Hoo! It's all downhill from here.

[adriantc]

BuffaloHELP, on Dec 5 2008, 01:14 PM, said:

Yes, some advertisements are failing to load. This is not our end's problem but it's Kontera's fault. They are not providing ready advertisements.

Also remember that when you view your own topic you will NEVER see your own publisher ID's advertisements showing. You could be viewing the forum default or another poster's ads. Kontera also tracks your home IP address. Therefore you cannot even view your ads even as the guest mode (not logging into the forum). So be careful clicking your own ads by going through anonymous websites--Kontera will penalize you.

This took me some time to figure it out (poor OpaQue had to endure all my questions ). The results are in and I just made $0.20 in one day through Trap17. Woo Hoo! It's all downhill from here.

The thing is I failed to see any text advertising whatsoever! And I can tell you that during the last 24h I surfed this forum more then I do in a full month...

And WOW ... 20 cents... for one day! Congratulations!

[mahesh2k]

Well so far i've not earned any cents from Kontera . Let's see if i can grab few bucks from them without placing their ads on my site. Anyone with 20 cents or more ?

[Nabb]

Wow 20c! That's insane! I've only had 10 impressions, and that means 0c

[mahesh2k]

@Nabb: I'm not sure if they pay for Impression or they pay for clicks. So we've to check their knowledgebase for the answer. But i think it is CPC and not CPM, cause ads are displayed in link throughout page that's why it is beneficial for advertisers to have this as CPC and not CPM. Let's see when someone from us gets first check/paypal from it, will atleast make it clear if it is quick CPM or slow CPC .

[Saint_Michael]

Yeah it is pay per click sort of set up and actually I think it is the mod that is being used and not the advertisements themselves that are failing to load and so in order to see ad's you have ot basically refresh your browser or view various topics in order to see these text links. Of course it is going ot be interesting since everyone will be choosing the same colors and so it will be kind of tricky to tell yours apart even though the color you choose won't show up.