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[TheDisturbedOne]

I read the Trap17 Forum Rules and Trap17 Readme, and it says nothing there specifically about torrents, but it did say no MP3s. I plan to launch a section of my site that has torrents on it of live Disturbed shows. All torrents will be personally checked by me, that they don't include any official releases that are copyrighted. Will it be ok for me to have torrent files of live shows that aren't copyrighted (that are in mp3, mp4, mpg, mkv or avi format)?

An example would be a person going to a concert and bringing a recording device and recording the concert. The legality of bringing the recording device could be questioned, but the actual recordings aren't illegal, unless the person who made it copyrighted it.

Kornspace.com is another site that does this, as another example.

If this is not allowed, will it be ok if I were to link myself to the torrents remotely hosted on a site such as The Pirate Bay?

Thanks

[SpiderVV]

Umm, doesn't Trap17 forbid warez? Torrents count as warez and so does linking to them but I am not really sure...

[Tramposch]

torrents do not count as wares. Torrents are just a form of transferring files. the stuff being transferred may be warez, but people often times get the wrong image about torrenting, they always things torrenting = illegal, where there are many legal things to torrent, it provides much much faster download speeds a lot of the times.

[Phoenix.Illusion]

Torrent files are not allowed as they can be illegal and you probably may get warned if they are uploaded.
Personally if it was me I would not even go their.

[SpiderVV]

Trampoch just said they aren't. But as he said, torrent files contain illegal files so the torrent itself also has to be illegal.

[Tramposch]

Any files can be illegal, ^^, he is just upload the torrent, none of the file data is actually stored on the server, it is all on peoples computers, a torrent does not get files from servers, it gets it from other peoples computers. There are many legal torrents, such as Ubunut, and it is completely legal, people just get the wrong image about torrents.

I don't think you should have any problem, but a mod, or Velma should clarify this.

[TheDisturbedOne]

Often I wonder if people know how to read these days.
*I am using torrents for legal means only
*Torrents are NOT warez.
*Torrent files contain no files, but instead a perfectly legal hash code.

The only reason why I am using torrents for this means is because I have some live shows in HD/High Quality, and the file size is well over 2GB, which would be a pain to keep uploading to Rapidshare.

Please, if you don't know what you are talking about, or haven't read my original post, don't reply. Thanks

[rpgsearcherz]

lol.. This thread is funny.. Let's go into what a torrent is:

A torrent is nothing but a file that says "xxx has xxx file." Think of it as a phonebook.

The file the torrent relates to CAN or can NOT be illegal, depending on the file.


For those *morons* (I apologize for being so harsh) who think all torrents are illegal, I suggest you don't ever become a lawyer because if you do you'll be suing every Linux distro provider, every patch provider, and most MMORPG companies.

To break it down for you, Aion/Age of Conan/Warhammer all used torrents for their betas and for most client downloads now.

Ubuntu uses torrents (faster than HTTP) for their distro downloads.


There are literally millions of LEGAL torrents. Assuming every torrent is illegal is like assuming everyone with an IPhone downloads illegal songs onto it. Just because it CAN be used for such a purpose doesn't mean it IS.

[TheDisturbedOne]

Amen.
Torrents are not only faster than HTTP, but uses less bandwidth.

And with the mentality that some were expressing here, if I were to make a backup to my hard drive into a torrent file, seed the torrent, and access it on another computer that has more hard drive space, it would be illegal. To tell you the truth, I may just do that now, to free up some space and save some time

[rvalkass]

Having read through the Terms of Service and Acceptable Usage Policy for both Trap17 and ComputingHost, there is nothing that explicitly forbids torrent files on your hosting as long as they point to legal material. However, I would still recommend contacting Support to check, and basically let them know that the torrent files are pointing to legal material - they should be happy you're using them as it saves them bandwidth.