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[Nameless_]

Hello to my fellow members on Trap17,

This is Nameless_ here, and I've been here for 2 days. In this time, I have made enough money to host my would be future site for three months with this plan:

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Logic Plan - $1.95 / mo. - FREE SETUP! - When Compromising is not a Choice, a Simple Logic helps :-)
1 GB space * upgradeable to 25GB
10 GB bandwidth * upgradeable to 1024GB/1TB

5 FTP, 5 MySQL, 5 Addon / Parked and 5 Sub-domains.

I don't know if I should start using this plan first, before upgrading, or wait until I can get more expensive ones...
I only know basic scripting (like, only HTML) and I don't know how to get started.

I also want advertising on my site so I can earn some money to help me host, but I don't know how to make the money go straight to Xisto, and I don't and I'm not allowed to get a Paypal account (too young, and still under parent supervision).

I am a total "n00b" to everything and I'm new to this new land of website making, so any help will be greatly appreciated.
If I had something like a graphical program so I can make my site look like what I want it to look like it will be great, but I don't know how to do that.
I think I had Dreamweaver 2004 ages ago, but I think I lost it in my other computer when it crashed...

I don't even know whether the best, which is this:

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Ideal Plan - $11/mo. - FREE SETUP! - Absolutely Un-Metered Space and Bandwidth!

“It is high time that the ideal of success should be replaced by the ideal of service” - Albert Einstein

Unmetered Packages for Peace Lovers :-)

Space : Unlimited
BW : Unlimited
Features : Unlimited.

Subject to only *one* Condition: Don't Abuse your Powers!

...Should be considered, because I don't know if I will ever use up that much space, though I will be putting up my graphical works, which might or might not be big in file size.

And I don't even know what

FTP Accounts
MySQL Databases
Shell Access - On Request
cPanel

and everything else is...

I only knew what domain was 1 day ago, and I am still confused about sub-domains.
Apparently the Hosting site and the Domain site is different, so I'm at lost.

Somebody help!
I was thinking of hosting 2 sites, but the cost may be too much for me, and I cannot keep posting 24/7 as I have a very busy life to tend to.
So I might have to end up hosting one instead, which is rather sad because both of those doesn't relate to each other one bit.

Meaning, that will have to be my personal site with everything I want to put in my sites in that one site.
Somebody please explain the basics of website hosting, tell me which host to get (because in the forums there are a lot of different ones and I don't know which one to get) and tell me what those terms are and what do they mean...

Basically, just teach a complete "baby" of this site how to make a website...
Thanks so much in advance,

Nameless_

[-Sky-]

I would advise you to start with the Logic Plan.
That would be better for you as a starter.

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I also want advertising on my site so I can earn some money to help me host, but I don't know how to make the money go straight to Xisto, and I don't and I'm not allowed to get a Paypal account (too young, and still under parent supervision).

Thats not currently possible at the moment.

-Sky-

Edited by -Sky-, 09 August 2009 - 10:18 AM.

[Nameless_]

Ooooooh...
Thanks for the help, -Sky-.
We CAN change packages once we get started, can't we?

Also, I'll only be able to use the visual programming though, I can't code properly.
Does Logic Plan provide this?

And can we stop the service whenever we want?

[rvalkass]

Nameless_, on Aug 9 2009, 11:54 AM, said:

We CAN change packages once we get started, can't we?

Yup. I think you can upgrade on your own, but downgrading requires sending a support ticket in.

Nameless_, on Aug 9 2009, 11:54 AM, said:

Also, I'll only be able to use the visual programming though, I can't code properly.
Does Logic Plan provide this?

You can use a WYSIWYG editor like Dreamweaver or FrontPage to design your site and upload the files, but I don't think the Logic Plan has anything like that built in to it.

Nameless_, on Aug 9 2009, 11:54 AM, said:

And can we stop the service whenever we want?

If you're on monthly billing then you can stop at the end of each month (when you bill is due). If you're on yearly (or longer) billing then it only really makes sense to stop near to the end of the year (although you can stop any time if you really want to).

[Nameless_]

rvalkass, on Aug 9 2009, 09:14 PM, said:

Yup. I think you can upgrade on your own, but downgrading requires sending a support ticket in.



You can use a WYSIWYG editor like Dreamweaver or FrontPage to design your site and upload the files, but I don't think the Logic Plan has anything like that built in to it.



If you're on monthly billing then you can stop at the end of each month (when you bill is due). If you're on yearly (or longer) billing then it only really makes sense to stop near to the end of the year (although you can stop any time if you really want to).

Thanks rvalkass... I still can't believe how many people with websites are younger than me, and they know how the coding works and all that.
I guess I'll have to start going to the library and look up on scripting books... or download on of those programs...

I don't know which one is good though. Lucky I asked before I purchased the package.
(I won't be suprised if I collected lots of myCENTS and be rich before I even start my website)

[The Simpleton]

The first thing you need to know is that the Logic Plan is sufficient for your purpose. The very fact that it allows 5 add-on domains tells you that it can handle a lot of graphics and stuff. And talking about add-on domains, that means you can host 5 domains with the single Logic Plan(your present target is only 2 websites ). That's why it's an excellent choice for you right now. Once you get to know the other stuff about web designing, you can move on to the advanced plans to take advantage of the extra features.

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I am a total "n00b" to everything and I'm new to this new land of website making, so any help will be greatly appreciated.
If I had something like a graphical program so I can make my site look like what I want it to look like it will be great, but I don't know how to do that.
I think I had Dreamweaver 2004 ages ago, but I think I lost it in my other computer when it crashed...

Don't worry there are a lot of people in a similar situation like you Anyway, "Aptana Studio" or "BlueVoda" are some good alternatives to dreamweaver. I haven't used them personally, but have heard a lot of good things about them.

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And I don't even know what

FTP Accounts
MySQL Databases
Shell Access - On Request
cPanel

and everything else is...

I only knew what domain was 1 day ago, and I am still confused about sub-domains.
Apparently the Hosting site and the Domain site is different, so I'm at lost.

I'll tell you about those things in brief here:

FTP Accounts or File Transfer Protocol Accounts are a simple way to transfer (upload/download) files to your website. Instead of logging in to your website control panel each time to upload your file, you can simply use an FTP client like Filezilla to upload/download files from your websites. You must create an FTP account from your website and this will give you access to your site through the client. well you can always learn about these more once you get to your website

MySQL Databases : I too know very little about this so I don't want to say much, but all I know is that a database is where everything is stored! For example all the posts, topics, member data etc on the trap17 forums are stored in a database. Similarly databases are used whenever you put a blog, portal, etc on your website.

Shell Access Xisto hosts websites on the Linux Operating System platform. This is because Linux provides more security than the Windows OS. In Linux, the traditional way of carrying out operations is through a shell, which is basically an interface between the user and the OS core. Simply put, you type out commands in the shell and it executes them. Shell Access gives full power to the users to administer their websites.

cPanel cPanel is an advanced control panel using which you can control every aspect of your hosting account. You can manage add-on domains, create FTP accounts, databases and add new content to your site......just think of it as a place where you can do anything to your site

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Somebody help!
I was thinking of hosting 2 sites, but the cost may be too much for me, and I cannot keep posting 24/7 as I have a very busy life to tend to.
So I might have to end up hosting one instead, which is rather sad because both of those doesn't relate to each other one bit.

Meaning, that will have to be my personal site with everything I want to put in my sites in that one site.
Somebody please explain the basics of website hosting, tell me which host to get (because in the forums there are a lot of different ones and I don't know which one to get) and tell me what those terms are and what do they mean...

Basically, just teach a complete "baby" of this site how to make a website...
Thanks so much in advance,

If you take the Logic Plan, you pay $1.95 per month towards hosting. And two .com domains cost $9.99 each. You can host both domains on the same hosting account. So it will roughly cost you $35 to host two websites for one year with the Logic Plan. If you post frequently here, you could earn that amount in a month!

Hosting has become very easy these days and since Xisto offers "cPanel" you will find everything easy to do so don't worry If you get into trouble the forum members are ready to help you and if they're busy you can open a support ticket

And once you start maintaining a website, you'll learn a lot along the way so you'll feel confident about your skills soon. I hope this post helped you. If not, please say so. All the best with your website plans

[Nameless_]

Yes your post helped me a lot...
I know what the terms mean know, sound like I have the power of God in my website, I can't wait to get started...

I downloaded Aptana Studio, but I haven't tried it yet. I will soon though. I hope all will go well with this. I have some design layouts in my head, so I might post them up once I'm done with them on Photoshop for tips of how to actually do it on the actual website...

What's WYSIWYG editor? Aptana isn't one, it said on the website, but Dreamweaver is... Something like do it yourself or something? I don't know...

But I'm glad to have you around, and I'm happy that you helped me...
Looking forward to seeing you around and learning more about coding!
(I'm doing the design template first though, so I'll have an extra stash of myCENTS on hand when I start in case I mess anything and everything up, which is what I usually do)

And I'll be snooping around the forums for tips and hints.

Thanks so much, kasperooney.

[rvalkass]

Nameless_, on Aug 9 2009, 02:19 PM, said:

What's WYSIWYG editor? Aptana isn't one, it said on the website, but Dreamweaver is... Something like do it yourself or something? I don't know...

WYSIWYG = What You See Is What You Get

Basically, a WYSYWIG editor lets you edit your pages as they will eventually appear, without having to do the code yourself.

[Nameless_]

Oh... and Aptana doesn't have it.

And that is exactly what I need! I'll have to find some other software then, I need WYSIWYG editing software and I can't code and all that.

[TheDisturbedOne]

Dreamweaver has a great WYSIWYG editor. You may want to look into installing a Content Management System, to make your website easier to build.