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[Ash-Bash]

Hi guys,

I have recently been looking at the staff team and most of the staff seem to be inactive Mostly moderators.

The only staff that I think are active are the following:

• Truefusion
  
• Saint Michael
  
• Rvalkass
  
• jlhaslip

Apart from them I think the others should be sacked from their duty and old members should be given the chance to be staff.

Please provide your feedback on my opinion.

- Ash. Thanks to DarkArcher For pointing this matter out.

Edited by Ash-Bash, 21 August 2009 - 11:19 PM.

[Phoenix.Illusion]

Yes, I also agree thank you Ash-Bash for posting the topic.
What do others think?

[Tramposch]

I think what they are looking for is a person who has been posting here for a long time and is a very old member because they then now how trusted the user is.

Also I guess they are also waiting for a more elder member because they are more wise and are usually better at making choices then younger people.

They will probably also look at the persons warn histories, et cetera.

I think when they come across an applicable person they will probably relieve a previous inactive moderators position and replace you with he or she.

Edited by Tramposch, 27 August 2009 - 03:51 PM.

[-Sky-]

Dark Archer, on Aug 19 2009, 11:34 PM, said:

Yes, I also agree thank you Ash-Bash for posting the topic.
What do others think?

Well since you've not been around on Trap17 for long, you would hardly know all the Moderators here.

Tramposch, on Aug 20 2009, 12:27 AM, said:

I think what they are looking for is a person who has been posting here for a long time and is a very old member because they then now how trusted the user is.

Also I guess they are also waiting for a more elder member because they are more wise and are usually better at making choices then younger people.

They will probably also look at the persons warn histories, et cetera.

I think when they come across an applicable person they will probably relieve a previous inactive moderators position and replace you with he or she.

I agree.

Trap17 doesn't want any inexperience members as Moderators and saying that, they'd want members who have NEVER been warned most probably. However, I'm not saying I or others have or have not been warned, I admit I have a few times. Once by Velma, which was quite totally unnecessary. I in no way deserved a warning for replying to a members support thread asking them if they have submitted a support ticket to Xisto, then after posting and got a warning did I then realise they saying they already submitted one. So I got a warning for an unnecessary misunderstanding by a Moderator here, which is no longer staff.

But yes, I very much so agree that we need new Staff. However, I like the newest Moderator we have here. SM is doing a very well good job. That is my comment for SM, and I hope he remains as a Mod for aslong as he can!

Edited by -Sky-, 20 August 2009 - 12:58 PM.

[TheDisturbedOne]

Whatever happened to Saint Michael? He use to be quite active around here, and I haven't seen him post in a long time.

[Saint_Michael]

My real world duties have pretty much kept me busy and with school starting soon and my sisters wedding coming up I am pretty much busy for the rest of the year. Either way, most people know where to find me if they have questions or problems.

[Tramposch]

He probably stays invisible to hide his spamming.

Or he is on vacation, it is kind of summer.



I just think that we should leave the choice up to the owner of the website, because when it comes to staff, i generally think they don't like suggestions on how to do that stuff, I wouldn't at least.

Edited by Tramposch, 27 August 2009 - 03:51 PM.

[Tramposch]

Saint_Michael, on Aug 19 2009, 09:38 PM, said:

My real world duties have pretty much kept me busy and with school starting soon and my sisters wedding coming up I am pretty much busy for the rest of the year. Either way, most people know where to find me if they have questions or problems.

Spamming CAN get quite hard.



You can always find time for spamming, spamming is more important than school..

Edited by Tramposch, 27 August 2009 - 03:51 PM.

[Phoenix.Illusion]

I may not of been here longer then any of you lot and I may have more/less warnings then you or even none.
But I do totally agree with you guys that Trap17 needs a new staff team.
The moderators listed above are active but I haven't even heard of the others.
I have PMed OpaQue and still awaiting a response!
BuffaloHelp also seems to be inactive

[iworld200]

Tramposch, on Aug 19 2009, 11:27 PM, said:

I think what they are looking for is a person who has been posting here for a long time and is a very old member because they then now how trusted the user is.

Also I guess they are also waiting for a more elder member because they are more wise and are usually better at making choices then younger people.

They will probably also look at the persons warn histories, et cetera.

I think when they come across an applicable person they will probably relieve a previous inactive moderators position and replace you with he or she.

Yes I completely agree with you. here in forums, most simply come to gain/retain their hosting accounts rather than share their points related to topics. And so their frequency of posting in forums will be very less. So our moderators/admins of trap17 constantly keep track of all people and only respond to those who are showing active participation frequently. I dont think it has got to do anything with elder or wise etc etc...

[rvalkass]

Both OpaQue and BuffaloHELP are active around the forums, although they also have work to do making sure Trap17, and the rest of the Xisto network, runs smoothly.

Of all the moderators, we are all around as often as we can be and are just as active as each other. Of course personal circumstances get in the way occasionally (I disappeared for a week or so when I moved home, as I lost my Internet connection for example) but the large moderating team we have ensures that there's always enough staff around to cover everything.

[Alex Cicala]

Tramposch, on Aug 20 2009, 09:27 AM, said:

I think what they are looking for is a person who has been posting here for a long time and is a very old member because they then now how trusted the user is.

Sorta like you, eh.

It's good to see that some of the forum is starting to get updated. Seems to be alot to do. I suggest pruning topics that are 1 year or older, and also the members. Also update the free hosting methods and deleting the old methods just so people don't get confused. Oh and we need a selection of forum themes That will keep things interesting. ARGH hope these changes are made.

[Phoenix.Illusion]

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QUOTE (Tramposch @ Aug 20 2009, 09:27 AM) *
I think what they are looking for is a person who has been posting here for a long time and is a very old member because they then now how trusted the user is.


Sorta like you, eh.

It's good to see that some of the forum is starting to get updated. Seems to be alot to do. I suggest pruning topics that are 1 year or older, and also the members. Also update the free hosting methods and deleting the old methods just so people don't get confused. Oh and we need a selection of forum themes biggrin.gif That will keep things interesting. ARGH hope these changes are made.

Actually yes, This is what I would like to see around here:

New website
New forum theme
A admin that can keep active most days (no offense)
Free hosting methords need upgrading.
Maybe upgrade to IPB 3.0.2 when most of the holes have been patched.

[Alex Cicala]

Dark Archer, on Aug 20 2009, 08:19 PM, said:

Actually yes, This is what I would like to see around here:

New website
New forum theme
A admin that can keep active most days (no offense)
Free hosting methords need upgrading.
Maybe upgrade to IPB 3.0.2 when most of the holes have been patched.

Finally someone who agrees with me. We need changes made. The site in my view is highly outdated, it's still good ~ no doubt ~ although there needs to be changes. Please Mods/Admins consider this... :?

[Ash-Bash]

Well it does seem that we all do agree that we need new moderators as most of them seem to be inactive. Unless the admins give them a nudge to wake up and be active on the forums as we could do with active staff on this sort of forum .

[TheDisturbedOne]

The point is that the admins here are doing a bunch of work on Computer Host, so they are busy enough. Why do they need to be active here if there's a great moderation team. Just because somebody doesn't post doesn't mean they aren't active either. The theme was changed about a year ago, and I don't mind it. Of course a new theme wouldn't be that bad, but this current one is fine. (If there is going to be a theme change, the post rating system that we had on V2 would be a nice addition )

[Tramposch]

Staff members don't really have to stay active posting, but other staff members have been still working behind the scenes, even if you do not see them posting.

The important thing for staff to do is regulate the rules, and such. There are members, like you and me, to be actively posting, not the moderators because they have much more work than we do.

Also i think somebody suggested pruning topics?

That would not be a good idea for several reasons; one being that credits may be lost by users who posted, and the other being that all these topics are often looked at. I have noticed over my years that I get tons and tons of problems and I google them, and most of the time trap17 has a topic that provides the answer.

I think we should just leave the administrators to do what they want, because not only do they have to control this forum, they have to deal with Xisto, which has many other branches.

Moderators don't have to be actively posting, although that would be nice, but they should be providing good answers, support, and enforcing rules.

[rvalkass]

cicala, on Aug 20 2009, 11:02 AM, said:

It's good to see that some of the forum is starting to get updated. Seems to be alot to do. I suggest pruning topics that are 1 year or older, and also the members. Also update the free hosting methods and deleting the old methods just so people don't get confused. Oh and we need a selection of forum themes That will keep things interesting. ARGH hope these changes are made.

Pruning topics is difficult with the credit system. I believe that, if posts were removed like that, then the script would deduct the relevant myCENTs for those topics too, which doesn't seem fair. This could be avoided (as it was in the old system) by calculating the myCENTs once (when the post is first made) but this has the limitation that you then can't edit your posts (a major problem with the old systems, and a big advantage to the current one). If old topics get revived then we do tend to lock them (although this doesn't send them back down the pages to where they belong).

Removing the old sections related to hosting applications would help, but again there are difficulties with the myCENTs system. However, it might be possible to hide those sections from view, although I don't know how that might affect myCENTs.

We used to have a selection of forum themes, but found that most people kept with the default. I think it was also difficult for OpaQue to make the necessary adjustments to all of the themes for them to work correctly. I agree that finding one theme everyone likes is difficult, but I think the theme we have right now works OK - no-one seems to really hate it, just not that bothered by it. It also keeps the familiarity with the default IPB theme while adding a little bit of individuality.

Dark Archer, on Aug 20 2009, 11:19 AM, said:

Actually yes, This is what I would like to see around here:

New website
New forum theme
A admin that can keep active most days (no offense)
Free hosting methords need upgrading.
Maybe upgrade to IPB 3.0.2 when most of the holes have been patched.

There is currently a topic open asking for redesigns of the Trap17 website. Take a look, design one yourself, offer suggestions to people and see if we can come up with a good website.

OpaQue and BuffaloHELP are active most days, but doing other things that keep Xisto running, and therefore Trap17 running. The admins don't really have a lot more power over the day to day forum stuff than moderators do, so an active team of moderators works just as well.

[Phoenix.Illusion]

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There is currently a topic open asking for redesigns of the Trap17 website. Take a look, design one yourself, offer suggestions to people and see if we can come up with a good website.

OpaQue and BuffaloHELP are active most days, but doing other things that keep Xisto running, and therefore Trap17 running. The admins don't really have a lot more power over the day to day forum stuff than moderators do, so an active team of moderators works just as well.

Well actually I have seen that and thinking of entering it.
But yes I now think the admins keep cool here now.

[The Simpleton]

As soon as I joined trap17, I used to wonder how many mods were present in the forum and I was also interested to join the moderating team, because that's a job I like and have done many times before. But trap17 is such a complex community that it takes a lot of patience to keep everything in order and I really appreciate the fact that the current team of mods have a lot of patience and I seriously doubt if I have it myself.

As for the question whether or not we need the team to be revised, I think it's up to the admins to think about it.

@Ash-Bash: Or better still, why don't you start a poll regarding this? The community will have a say about this as well and then the admins/mods can think about the matter in depth.

[k_nitin_r]

Hi!

Although I agree that having a lot of inactive moderators is a bad sign, I still think we ought to send them a wake-up reminder because they helped make Trap17 the kind of place that it is right now. If they decide to make their return, that's much appreciated by everybody here, but if they decide to part ways then we wish them success and would like to have somebody else take their place. In either case, we shouldn't just take away their moderation status without emailing them or trying to contact them in some other way because some of them may just have had stuff happening in their lives.

[Tramposch]

Do you guys really see much spam, much advertisement, or breaking of rules?

I can tell you that I don't
That must mean a staff member is doing their job by enforcing all those rules, and deleting, or dealing with coincidence such as spam advertisement, spam, et cetera.

I think that we should just leave it at that and let the head of the forums, the administrators, choose whether or not the staff members are doing their job (Which i believe they are doing it very well).

Edited by Tramposch, 27 August 2009 - 03:51 PM.

[Nameless_]

Tramposch, on Aug 21 2009, 11:28 PM, said:

Do you guys really see much spam, much advertisement, or breaking of rules?

I can tell you that I don't
That must mean a staff member is doing their job by enforcing all those rules, and deleting, or dealing with coincidence such as spam advertisement, spam, et cetera.

I think that we should just leave it at that and let the head of the forums, the administrators, choose whether or not the staff members are doing their job (Which i believe they are doing it very well).

Yeah, well, rvallkass is doing his job, I must say.
And he's a really nice moderator too...

But I don't think any other mods apart from the ones listed in the first post is active. So new moderators will be very welcomed!!!
Someone that's good at coding and helping people set up their first websites ever, I hope.
And someone that's patient and willing to go an extra mile to help newbies like me to understand what different things like CMS are.
Someone like rvalkass.

[Ash-Bash]

Hi guys just to let you know I have now added a Poll to the first topic please make sure you vote! You can reply as well if you would like .

[Nameless_]

Ash-Bash, on Aug 22 2009, 09:19 AM, said:

Hi guys just to let you know I have now added a Poll to the first topic please make sure you vote! You can reply as well if you would like .

Nice job... I voted yes.
It's good you didn't specify WHO should be staff though, I wouldn't have voted otherwise as I wouldn't know who to vote for.
(As I'm new and only know a few people here)