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[Nameless_]

I used to use it, because well, as you said, it was bundled with Windows and I used Windows before and I couldn't be bother installing a new browser, but now that I have a mac, I use both the default safari and the mostly loved firefox. I mainly used firefox though, I don't really use safari anyway, I don't really know why, but they seem the same to me.

Safari's a bit more convenient if you want to delete your bookmark bar's links, and emptying your cache, but I guess I use Firefox now for some reason. It's sometimes really annoying though, with the offline mode thing and such, but the main reason why I use Firefox is for Trap17, because I can now post on Trap17 without having to get kicked out of the system ever few minutes and having to log back in again.

[Xalor]

Probably not since its pretty annoying to work with. I feel that it loads really slow especially on a new machine, that came from the manufacturer. Microsoft makes money this way anyway, and so do these OEM manufacturers such as Dell, Acer, Asus, Lenovo, IBM, Compaq, Ferrari GTI, iBuyPOWER, Cyberpower, alienware, voodoo, and the rest, they bundle crapware and useless toolbars to the point where its horribly crushed and slowed down by useless ActiveX addons, which by far makes a horrible experience, since there is no easy way of removing them once they get a hold of your computer. By far the worst is HP who bundles so much garbage its annoying. And Since i expect Microsoft to bundle something with IE to make up for it being free, its only free on Windows so they can control the whole experience, I wouldn't download it, its the same as paying for Netscape Communicator, and actually I'm happy that IE did come around at that time, made for some competition since Netscape Navigator and Communicator had been sitting around and just wallowing in their wealth.

[k_nitin_r]

Hi!

@The Simpleton

Netscape Navigator was a pretty good web browser even back in the day when Microsoft Windows 95 was first available. My ISP provided me with the Netscape Navigator installation disks and it included an email client, an HTML composer, and a web browser, all in the same package. The integrated nature of Netscape Navigator as a web 'suite' rather than simply a web browser made it more pleasing to work with. With computers of the time, running both Microsoft Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator at the same time was difficult due to the limited memory available in most computers. This isn't really an issue now as computers come equipped with 3GB or more of memory. The icon on the Windows desktop labelled "The Internet" did seem like a very convenient way to browse the Internet for most people who had somebody install Windows for them (during the age of the cheap assembled PCs that ran a pirated copy of Windows). Eventually, people made the switch over to Microsoft Internet Explorer entirely because a large number of users who got their PCs without Netscape Navigator installed had to be catered to as both web browsers acted differently - in terms of Javascript execution and HTML rendering.

@all

I used Google Chrome as my primary browser because it was rather quick, but due to the stability problems that I have been experiencing with Google Chrome, I switched back to Mozilla Firefox. Microsoft's Internet Explorer was pretty good in terms of end-user experience in the earlier releases - Internet Explorer 6 was pretty responsive, though after tabbed browsing came along, it didn't make much sense to stay with Internet Explorer 6, although Yahoo did introduce a browser plugin that brought tabbed browing to Internet Explorer 6. However, Internet Explorer 7 and Internet Explorer 8 are pretty slow. Microsoft Windows 7 seems to pre-load the browser (Internet Explorer 8, but a slightly different version from the one available for Windows XP and Windows Vista) but the lag does show, at times.

@Nameless_

Apple Safari seems like a pretty good browser, but I guess some of the keyboard shortcuts that we have grown pretty accustomed to are missing in Safari. Chrome and Safari are both Webkit based so theren't a pretty close resemblence between the two browsers.

@kleong

I don't really have a need for all of the plugins available for Mozilla Firefox other than the FireBug plugin for web designers and web developers alike, but they are all there when I need them, which is why I'd never un-install Mozilla Firefox and it's the first thing I would install after re-installing Windows.

@Nameless_

You've mentioned that you get 'kicked' out of Trap17 when not using Mozilla Firefox. I've never experienced that, but I do get an error indicating that I am flooding the board with messages and that I have to wait for 15 seconds. It's odd because it certainly does take me longer than 15 seconds to type a message. I get the error even when I make sure that it's been over a minute since I posted the last message. I'm not really sure of which forum I can bring up the issue in since most of my posts are simply replies to existing posts and a post or two in the programming forums.

[Mencarta]

I stopped using it when JavaScript broke on me in IE. Instead I now use FF. The only reason I will touch IE is to check out my site to make sure it looks good in the leading browser.

[k_nitin_r]

Hi!

As soon as I get one of the infrastructure guys to setup a virtual machine for me, the only web browser that I have available is the Microsoft Internet Explorer.

Now, ordinarily, I would stick with Microsoft Internet Explorer for the duration of my session on the server, but the Internet Explorer Security Enhanced Configuration drives me nuts, asking me to add every site that I visit into the safe websites list. That's the point at which I download Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome and continue to work with the alternate browser.

If Microsoft hadn't made Internet Explorer so unusable on the server editions of its platform, I would've actually used it, but alas!

BTW, I have tried unsuccessfully in disabling the Security Enhanced Configuration on Windows 2008 based servers - disabling the feature doesn't work, and neither does turning off protected mode and manually reducing the security settings to the minimum for all of the zones.