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[Nameless_]

I was about to put this in with the other thread that I made on changing hosts, but then it wouldn't be on topic and it wouldn't attract more visitors to Trap17, so I thought I'll create a new thread about my question on a new thread on here... And the question is...

Can you link two or more free domain providers to the same site?

OK, I'm not a domain hogger. But that's only because I don't own any domains... But I want to be one... is it possible to link two or more FREE domain providers to the same site? Like, co.cc or co.nr or something like that? It's be like, so cool if you can, and I would like it if it is possible.

I know that it is possible with paid domains...

What do you guys think?

Also, just for curiosity... do you think that it will be possible to link things to the same site even on different free domain accounts? I was just wondering, I've never created an account on free domain providers before, but I was just wondering that if (IF, I said...) if they had a limit to the amount of domains that you can have, do you think that it will be possible to um... link the different domains that you own (that's free) that's on different accounts (due to the domain limit) to the same site?

Thanks...

[Baniboy]

You can always use redirects to redirect from the other domains to another one. Not exactly search engine friendly, but gets the job done.

[rpgsearcherz]

I agree with the redirects but you could also set up subdomains that load up the main website page and just link the new domains to that one.

Not sure how to explain better but here is my theory behind it:

Let's assume your site is www.nameless.com and you want www.nameless.co.cc and nameless.co.nr

You would take nameless.com and set it as your main domain
Create two subdomains and have them load up the main page (I think this would be done by using the .htaccess file)
Link the domains you wish to use (the .co.cc and .co.nr) each to one of the subdomains.

I'm not 100% sure if this would work as I've never tried, but it seems like it would.

As for the .htaccess you would tell each subdomain that the "index" was in /../index.html

Or whatever your main page is. This would tell it to go out one folder and then load up that index.

[Nameless_]

rpgsearcherz, on Sep 16 2009, 12:55 PM, said:

I agree with the redirects but you could also set up subdomains that load up the main website page and just link the new domains to that one.

Not sure how to explain better but here is my theory behind it:

Let's assume your site is www.nameless.com and you want www.nameless.co.cc and nameless.co.nr

You would take nameless.com and set it as your main domain
Create two subdomains and have them load up the main page (I think this would be done by using the .htaccess file)
Link the domains you wish to use (the .co.cc and .co.nr) each to one of the subdomains.

I'm not 100% sure if this would work as I've never tried, but it seems like it would.

As for the .htaccess you would tell each subdomain that the "index" was in /../index.html

Or whatever your main page is. This would tell it to go out one folder and then load up that index.

But that's different domains extensions ... what I'm thinking about is like...

www.nameless.co.cc

and www.nameless2.co.cc

so it's different website name thingies... the title, I think, but with the same domain extensions.

[rpgsearcherz]

It would work the same way if my idea worked properly. You could do anything you want:


www.mynameisnameless.com
www.nameless.com
www.namelezz.com
www.nameless.co.cc
www.namelezz.co.cc

Etc. and you should be able to link up unlimited domains to the site. The more I think about it, I think you can even link them up without doing subdomains if you wanted. There should be settings in Cpanel to just link up more domains.

I think .co.cc is redirection though, in which case it's irrelevant since all it does is "refresh" with your site in the browser after.

[TheDisturbedOne]

If the domains have DNS you can link them. You could put them as parked domains, and just redirect them to the main site. I would say go for the top level domain though, since co.cc can (legally) take away the domain whenever they want. Not saying they will, but they can.

Co.nr is a waste of time since you have to link back to them, and they have quite strict rules as far as I remember. http://smartdots.com has some good domains, and I started my site off with them. They don't have DNS, but they give you an option for no ads, and they have a wide selection of domains, so most likely your keyword isn't taken already.


But in closing, I think that you should just get a top level domain. They make the website seem a lot more professional, and are very easy to remember. And with the amount of posts you have, I'm surprised you don't already have one.

[MasterBB]

1st of all, the answer for your question is: YES, YOU CAN!

There are actually 2 methods for that purpose:
1.Parked Domain
2. URL redirection.

Before I explain further, I have to clear up something : co.cc and co.nr is not actually the same. With co.cc you got fully registered domain. In this sense you can modify the DNS so that it direct the domain to the host you specify. While as for co.nr is actually redirection domain.

What is parked domain?
Just say you have yoursite.co.cc and you purchase another domain, let say like you ask, another .co.cc, yoursite2.co.cc, both of this domains can represent the same website, no doubt. The technique no different whether or not you had paid or free domain. 1st, all you need to do is to set the DNS in your domain lead to your hosting service. (just like when you 1st register your initial domain). For example the DNS to your hosting account are: ns1.hosting.com and ns2.hosting.com. In this way, you tell the domain to go for your hosting direction.

Now, once you did that, the next thing you need to do is to tell your hosting that you have another domain directed to it, representing the whole website (not a subdomain). For this matter you use Parked Domain.

After you completed this 2 task, your website now available for both domain.

Now, to answer your second question, how bout if you used all the available "parked domain" in your hosting account?(mostly paid domain come with unlimited domain though). If you still wanna add another domain name, all you need to do is register in redirection url account. This is totally different from parked domain, I must assert. Redirection is basically the same method like shorting your url and then masking it. When someone come to your site from this redirection url (just say like yoursite.co.nr) they were actually not landing in the real website instead only "mirror" of it (frame based). If you confuse on this, just try viewing the page source on your redirection url. You will see that it only contain code of frame html.

Can you just use 2 hosting using two domain but merely the same website? Oh yes you can. But you will recognize by search engine having duplicate website, which is "destructing" in SEO term : not SE friendly. Redirection also not a search engine friendly, so use it wisely.

[Nameless_]

MasterBB, on Sep 17 2009, 01:36 PM, said:

1st of all, the answer for your question is: YES, YOU CAN!

There are actually 2 methods for that purpose:
1.Parked Domain
2. URL redirection.

Before I explain further, I have to clear up something : co.cc and co.nr is not actually the same. With co.cc you got fully registered domain. In this sense you can modify the DNS so that it direct the domain to the host you specify. While as for co.nr is actually redirection domain.

What is parked domain?
Just say you have yoursite.co.cc and you purchase another domain, let say like you ask, another .co.cc, yoursite2.co.cc, both of this domains can represent the same website, no doubt. The technique no different whether or not you had paid or free domain. 1st, all you need to do is to set the DNS in your domain lead to your hosting service. (just like when you 1st register your initial domain). For example the DNS to your hosting account are: ns1.hosting.com and ns2.hosting.com. In this way, you tell the domain to go for your hosting direction.

Now, once you did that, the next thing you need to do is to tell your hosting that you have another domain directed to it, representing the whole website (not a subdomain). For this matter you use Parked Domain.

After you completed this 2 task, your website now available for both domain.

Now, to answer your second question, how bout if you used all the available "parked domain" in your hosting account?(mostly paid domain come with unlimited domain though). If you still wanna add another domain name, all you need to do is register in redirection url account. This is totally different from parked domain, I must assert. Redirection is basically the same method like shorting your url and then masking it. When someone come to your site from this redirection url (just say like yoursite.co.nr) they were actually not landing in the real website instead only "mirror" of it (frame based). If you confuse on this, just try viewing the page source on your redirection url. You will see that it only contain code of frame html.

Can you just use 2 hosting using two domain but merely the same website? Oh yes you can. But you will recognize by search engine having duplicate website, which is "destructing" in SEO term : not SE friendly. Redirection also not a search engine friendly, so use it wisely.

I don't understand... if it is a redirect domain, why does it do bad in Search Engine Optimizations? I mean, I understand if it's two different sites that are actually the same website on two different domains... Search Engines like Google don't like to have duplicate results, so they put your website ranking down, but if it's a redirect domain... well, doesn't that just mean that it's two domains linking to the same site?

And to The Disturbed One... the thing is, I can't choose the best domain name. I've been thinking about it so much that my head will literally burst for the past few weeks, and I still can't come up with one... But free domain first, top level domain comes later.

[rpgsearcherz]

Nameless_, on Sep 17 2009, 05:45 AM, said:

I don't understand... if it is a redirect domain, why does it do bad in Search Engine Optimizations? I mean, I understand if it's two different sites that are actually the same website on two different domains... Search Engines like Google don't like to have duplicate results, so they put your website ranking down, but if it's a redirect domain... well, doesn't that just mean that it's two domains linking to the same site?

And to The Disturbed One... the thing is, I can't choose the best domain name. I've been thinking about it so much that my head will literally burst for the past few weeks, and I still can't come up with one... But free domain first, top level domain comes later.

Redirection is bad because technically you are giving everyone a web address that is not the actual address.

Redirection cloaks your site with whatever the redirection address is (if there is one).


More or less think of it this way:

You just got a new car and you want people to look at it. So you have two choices. You can either send them to look at *your* car or you can send them elsewhere and have someone there tell them where your car really is.

This is how redirection works. It's clear one is more efficient than the other, and Google/others would much rather have the more direct approach.

[TheDisturbedOne]

I would actually disagree with you with the free domain coming first, and then the top level comes next. I lost quite a lot of SEO value when I spent 3 months on a free sub-domain. And not the trap17 one, a redirect. I got a real domain in November of last year, and it took me about 6 months to get my new site up in the search engines. My site has done much better on a top level domain (Now in the top 50 for a widely searched term, "Disturbed," in Yahoo and Google), and a lot easier to remember.

Remember, when you switch to a top level domain, you will lose all SEO value from your old domain. If you want to test out a site before you make it final, I'd say do it on a .trap17.com subdomain before, so that you aren't using up time on a paid domain before you go live. But right when you go live, got with a top level domain!!