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Posted 06 November 2009 - 05:40 AM

So, Im thinking of swithcing to Linux and abolishing windows from my laptop (Dell XPS 1530), but I seem to find alot of info that doesnt really answer my questions. I want to know what Linux does as opposed to Vista, and if its easier/better... Also I want to start web designing, is it better with Linux? any insight will help...

also, I see there are plenty of versions/distributions... which one should I download? How can i switch clean over to Linux? How will certain programs of mine work with Linux?

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 07:56 AM

View Post.:Piper_2051:., on Nov 6 2009, 01:40 PM, said:

So, Im thinking of swithcing to Linux and abolishing windows from my laptop (Dell XPS 1530), but I seem to find alot of info that doesnt really answer my questions. I want to know what Linux does as opposed to Vista, and if its easier/better... Also I want to start web designing, is it better with Linux? any insight will help...

also, I see there are plenty of versions/distributions... which one should I download? How can i switch clean over to Linux? How will certain programs of mine work with Linux?

HELP!

1. ) Linux as opposed to Vista is way more resource friendly. This means that Linux does not take as much CPU power, Virtual memory etc. in its processes. This also prevents the CPU from heating up. I believe that the reason for this is the numerous processes that Windows run on its background. When you open the task manager( Ctr+Alt+Del ), a long list of processes appear on Win but in Linux (my Ubuntu) shows only 5 processes and only 19% CPU usage.

2. ) Linux before was known to be a for-geeks only OS, but that is not true anymore today. Ubuntu pretty much does away with all those typing jobs and presents a nice GUI for almost all of its application. Even partitioning the hard disk can now be done drag and drop style with gParted. ( Linux users before the GUI era of course were afraid to do this manually ). :)

3. ) Vista does not come with an Office Suite. You have to purchase it for a fee. While almost all Linux apps are FREE (see www.sourceforge.net ). OpenOffice (MS Office's counterpart) is free and cross compatible to Windows counterparts. Ex. You can save .doc (Windows format) files to .odt (Linux format) format and vice versa.

4. ) You can use, surf the net, etc. w/ Linux without an anti-virus software ( like what I am doing right now ). 90+% of the world uses Windows thus hackers target their efforts towards this large number of victims. This is the reason why Windows get infected even if the world's best security experts work at MSFT. Also, the large number of Linux developers make the OS as loophole-less it can be. The linux kernel source code passes through a lot of eyes and thus, a security hole can be found faster than that of MSFT since only their company's programmers are able to see the code. Also, Linux does not know what an .exe file is and most viruses come from executing these executables, ergo having a virus on your Linux is synonymous to being the unluckiest man on earth.

5. ) Compiz Desktop Effects!!! Windows does not have this.

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If you are looking for a Linux distro (distribution) for beginners, I suggest Linux Mint. Mint is and Ubuntu derivative. Ubuntu is nice too since all your technical and how-to questions are just one search away at the Ubuntu Forums.
Note, I only suggested it. I am sure that users of other Linux distros will claim that their distro is the best. ( Lets have peace brothers! W'ere one Linux family ).

You can install Linux in dual boot mode. This means you have the option to use your Windows OS or your Linux OS during the computer start-up. This is good especially if you need some functionality of your Windows OS.

For programs of yours that only run on Windows, you can use Wine emulator. Wine runs Windows on your Linux. ( Get it? OS opened in an OS? ). I've never really find WIne useful though since almost all Windows apps have a Linux counter part.
Example:
Firefox = Internet Explorer
OpenOffice = Microsoft Office
Pidgin = Yahoo Messenger
VLC = Windows Media Player
( again check www.sourceforge.net for everything you need )

For web designing concerns, I don't know which OS is better since I myself am a newbie web developer.

*Even though I am a Linux advocate, I can't deny that I am still more familiar with Windows. WIndows has been there since I was born and all my PC games come on a Windows installer CD.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 09:29 AM

I appreciate your decision to switch to Linux and strongly urge you to go ahead with it. You won't regret the decision once you make the switch. The biggest advantage of using Linux is of course, NO VIRUSES! Unless the user is very careless there's no chance of getting any virus/malware in Linux. You might confirm this by visiting known-infected sites using Windows and Linux, and you'll know the difference :)

Since you're still starting out, I'd strongly recommend Ubuntu as the first choice for trying out Linux. I'm not saying it's the best distro available but it's certainly the most friendly distro available. Once you get enough experience you may want to try out the other distros,but Ubuntu's a great way to begin. In your case I recommend that you get a Live CD of Ubuntu and try it out first without installing - it will help you to get a feel of things. Then if you want you can install it inside windows without worrying about any partitions, or you can install it in dual boot alongside Windows. Take a look at this link for more details.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 10:29 AM

Certainly....

Vista is like a bulldozer sitting on your PC, it will idle at over 1gb of RAM even if you dont touch the keyboard and mouse. It is very insecure and laggy/buggy and not to mention expensive!

I too recommend Ubuntu, i run it on my machines at home and my brother, who is a complete anti-nerd recently was running XP on his laptop, he got the dreaded blue screen of death and his windows install was corrupt. In goes the Ubuntu installation DVD and within 40 minutes (yes, its extremely fast to install) he was up and running with Ubuntu and happy.

I wont pretend that linux is 100% perfect, its not. But its good. You might get some issues with strange hardware but in all honestly installing windows is a nightmare when it comes to drivers, Ubuntu has 99.999% of hardware covered (not an official figure, my estimate :)) but windows is silly, i frequently get 5 or 6 unkown devices with XP installs at which point i have to actually use an Ubuntu live CD to access the network (the network, USB and card readers dont work in Xp...) to download drivers!!

The Simpleton touched on Ubuntu Live... If you download the Ubuntu ISO image, and burn it to a DVD/CD (you can even do this with 7zip which is a free download, just extract and copy/paste to the CD/DVD) you will have both an installer disk and a live disc.

Doing this will NOT change anything on your PC, you are NOT installing Ubuntu here and it will NOT damage Vista in anyway. But i dont take any responsibility if it does of course :(

Basically, put the DVD in the DVD drive (or CD, but i will say DVD from now on but if you use a CD then just do the same) and reboot the machine. When the machine starts up it will usually ask you to hit the keyboard to boot from the CD, do that.

Linux will now load up the CD menu. When shown select the "Try Ubuntu without making any changes" option and hit enter.

Select your language too... I cant remember if thats before or after the above step...

Now ubuntu will load up linux for you. It will take some time because all the data needs to be loaded from the CD which is slower than a hard drive, and put into RAM. If you choose to install Ubuntu it will generally load up just a little faster than Vista/XP does on your machine.

Once it is loaded you will see the desktop, and the two "task bars" top and bottom. It works very much like windows on the face of it. Your "all programs" menu is now "Applications" at the top left, then you have Places which is sorta like a "my Computer" menu ("Home" is "My Documents") and then the "System" menu is like "Control panel" but in a menu. it has all the settings basically.

If you use a wire to connect to the internet you should already be connected. If you use a modem though you will need to manually enter the details somewhere... Im not 100% sure where as i use wireless by try System>Administration>Network Connections (i think) if you use wireless you will need to select the network to use and enter the password. The clock and the icon tray from windows is in the top right hand corner and thats where the network indicators will be.

You can browse the web using firefox and you will have plenty of programs pre-installed to play with under "Applications" if you want to try out new programs go to Applications>Add/Remove (or in ubuntu 9.10: Applications>Software Center) and just type in something like "msn" if you want an msn client, "Aim" etc... Or if you want say...... a 3d drawing program just type in the search box "3d design" or "3d draw" and you will see loads of programs to install for free, safely. Just tick the box next to them and click apply. If you are asked for a password at any point it will likely be "root" or "password".

And that's it really. If you decide to install it i strongly suggest you follow an easy to understand online tutorial as doing it wrongly could damage your Vista operating system. This is assuming you want to run both, if you do then you get an option when you turn the machine on of which System to start. If you only want Ubuntu then it doesnt matter as you can just delete Vista.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:51 PM

I appreciate all the help folks, but I cant seem to get Ubuntu to install on my PC... and after your feedback Im anxious to get my hands on some penguin power... I keep getting the same error about something not there or unreadable, and get refered to a log file I cant find

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Doing this will NOT change anything on your PC, you are NOT installing Ubuntu here and it will NOT damage Vista in anyway. But i dont take any responsibility if it does of course tongue.gif

and as for damaging Vista... It was released damaged, so you couldnt be at fault, unless you work for Micrsoft...

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 02:18 PM

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and as for damaging Vista... It was released damaged, so you couldnt be at fault, unless you work for Micrsoft...

:) Too true....

If you arent worried about keeping vista then you can wipe the hard drive... But first, what file/area does it say is unreadable?

And do you have Vista set to encrypt the hard drive?

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 02:22 PM

View Postshadowx, on Nov 6 2009, 07:18 AM, said:

:) Too true....

If you arent worried about keeping vista then you can wipe the hard drive... But first, what file/area does it say is unreadable?

And do you have Vista set to encrypt the hard drive?

It might be encrypting the HD.. as for what part idk atm... Im burning the image in a different way to see if it will work

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 02:43 PM

security settings in the F12 boot menu are not available due to an unknown password on those settings...

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 02:44 PM

IF vista is encrypting it then that could be your problem, you weill have to boot vista and go into security settings and disable that.

If not then tell us what file/area it cant read and someone might be able to help.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 02:52 PM

ah.... WHat gives that error? The ubuntu installer or simply when you try to enter the BIOS?

If It is on the Ubuntu installer than you will need to enter the BIOS and fiddle with security settings (dont lock yourself out!! Just remove passwords, dont add them!) or the boot settings.

IF the BIOS gives that error then you need to find out your BIOS password.




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