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[webishqiptar]

I guess this debate, is misunderstood. In fact there are several problems associated with the reactions from swine flu vaccine, which can lead either to paralysis, but there is no problem to take the normal flu vaccine. So don't be bothered from side effects of normal vaccines, they are very rare and there's no evidence.

[shadowx]

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In fact there are several problems associated with the reactions from swine flu vaccine, which can lead either to paralysis

DO you have facts figures and numbers for this? Even just a link i could follow?

I highly doubt this is actual fact and is more of a rumour, but if you can prove it then I'll believe it. The fact still remains, the virus is more dangerous than the vaccine.

[Misanthrope]

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A vaccine causes the illness: FALSE

Outside the sophomoric (and oh so pungeunt) realm of the junior high locker room, I find myself questioning how the flinging about of "FALSE" definitives helps further productive debate on the subject at hand, short of intimidating the less bold (or the less verbose?) into submission. Maybe it’s just me. I’ve always taken exception with internet “shouting” as it strikes me uncivil and counter-productive to rational discourse in a realm where all we have at our disposal are words. The topic at hand here is the inherent toxity of the highly questionable H1N1 vaccine alleged to counter the curious swine flu, which above poster claims is less malignant than the virus itself. Time and history, I fear, continues to demonstrate otherwise. As some within this thread have wisely noted, (including above poster if I’m not mistaken), the virus itself has been trumped up to fear-mongering panic levels far in excess of it’s actual threat, thanks to - in my observation - our fascist/controlled media. Simply put, H1N1 appears at this time to be just another flu virus, albeit of dubious origin. And much of what I’ve gathered thus far demonstrates the so-called “cure” is worse than the disease. Far worse.

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Nowadays a real, living virus is NOT used and cannot infect you.

I find myself in disagreement with above argument but more specifically the poster's negative shout, which violates my sense of internet protocol. My understanding is a live virus is in indeed inherent in the HINI Flumist vaccine. The following documentation substantiates my initial and secondary submissions, those being the recently treated are in fact contagious to those they come in contact with. Kindly focus your attentions to the last sentence (in italics):

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Hospitals in Colorado and elsewhere are shunning the FluMist H1N1 vaccine, a nasal spray that contains live swine flu virus, because of fears it could infect people with weakened immune systems and underlying health conditions.
“Several metro area hospitals said they won’t be taking the FluMist because they don’t want to endanger patients,” reports TheDenverChannel.com.
Lois VanFleet, infection prevention specialist at Exempla Good Samaritan Medical Center in Lafayette, expressed concern that doctors and nurses who inhaled the live virus could infect patients whose immune systems are compromised.
However, H1N1 FluMist is being rolled out nationwide from this week, including at “drive-through clinics” across the country where the nasal spray is administered while people sit in their cars with their window wide open (see top picture).
The live virus contained in the nasal spray is weakened but it can be transmitted from person to person for up to three weeks.

Above submission should lay to rest unfounded beliefs the misinformed have regarding the volatile and very real contagious nature of those recently compromised with H1N1 vaccine. Those still suffering under the misguided delusion they can't catch flu from the recently treated would be advised to remove the rose colored glasses lest they become unwilling vectors of H1N1.

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a fillet of salmon has more mercury than the jab, so yes, yes i would happily injest that amount of mercury, I'm already full of it from the trace amounts in everyday life so why not.

Following this illogical line of thought, I may as well throw myself off the nearest cliff because I’m going to die someday anyway, right? Or, since my tap water may contain trace levels of pharmaceutical psychotropics, injecting Prozac directly into my blood stream might not be such a bad idea. A fitting philosophy for the suicidal, defeatist nihilist, I suppose. But those who actually embrace life would be well advised to think twice before laying themselves prostrate before governments' latest fascist experiment. As was stated in a previous post, a vaccine (unlike a fillet of dead salmon) bypasses the body’s normal defenses and is no way analogous to everyday hazards which come into play. Well, maybe a poor analogy. Very poor.

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There is no proven link between Flu Vaccines and brain disorders

The Health Protection Agency would disagree, per correspondence sent to 600 neurologists regarding a previous swine flu vaccination experiment inflicted on the public, circa 1976. Following are highlights than anyone with internet access can easily confirm:

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- More people died from the vaccination than from swine flu.
- 500 cases of GBS were detected.
- The vaccine may have increased the risk of contracting GBS by eight times.
- The vaccine was withdrawn after just ten weeks when the link with GBS became clear.
- The US Government was forced to pay out millions of dollars to those affected.....

Make no mistake, the current swine flu experiment is just that, as it has been forced on a gullible public sans the rigorous testing any product should undergo before public release. I'm supposed to roll up my sleeve or bare my nasal cavities to this garbage? They will have to find unwitting guinea pigs elsewhere, I'm afraid. And we have yet to see H1N1's full toxic fallout unravel.

The above submissions are not conjecture, "rumor," or crazed conspiracy dreamt up while the Enlightened Misanthrope was under the influence of 100% Agave Tequila (although this time of year I prefer Scotch). On the contrary, the evidence above speaks for itself, and presents a strong argument against needlessly exposing oneself to Baxter's H1N1's toxic money making venture.

Edited by Misanthrope, 05 December 2009 - 09:08 AM.