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[mra550]

Maybe this is the right section for this topic we heard in the news since it is a news maybe I can post it here
NOTE: the text in quotes are the only thing I copied from the news no copyright intended for this one thanks
the quoted text is according to the news and the text without quote is my own text

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December’s “Operation Aurora” cyber attack from China, which Google disclosed last week, has prompted French and German to recommend against the use of Internet Explorer, at least until a patch is released to address the vulnerability.

This is a great move considering the security risk Microsoft’s Internet Explorer creates. Similar action may be taken against other Microsoft products as well. How does this happen? Microsoft provided the window through which the Chinese hackers crawled through.

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“This afternoon, Microsoft issued Security Advisory 979352 to help customers mitigate a Remote Code Execution (RCE) vulnerability in Internet Explorer. The company has determined that Internet Explorer was one of the vectors used in targeted and sophisticated attacks targeted against Google and other corporate networks.”

This is a great BANG for Microsoft. It’s a fact that Internet explorer lost its popularity in market. The internet browser battle kicked off for a long time. Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome are more user friendly and load web pages much faster. Besides, tonnes of web developers facing hard time in tweaking their web pages to suite the Internet Explorer.

So, can Internet Explorer can still leads the browser industry after this big BANG? Will you support Internet Explorer? your free to leave your comment here

evilsmiley25, on Jan 22 2010, 05:47 AM, said:

Internet explorer has always been a piece of crap. It always is slow, and never works good for me. But then again, microsoft did steal everything from the macs, so I am not surprised they mess everything up. Problems with IE in the past:



Just proves how Microsoft messes up IE all the time.

yeah anyway I never use it now Im using google chrome and firefox my friend was using IE
but lately he found out that there are so many virus from IE in his cache XD I didn't know that
virus can obtained true cache? then his IE never opens again when opening theres always a pop up in the window
about the error the dont send thing

[evilsmiley25]

Internet explorer has always been a piece of crap. It always is slow, and never works good for me. But then again, microsoft did steal everything from the macs, so I am not surprised they mess everything up. Problems with IE in the past:

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On February 12, 2003, Microsoft released Security Bulletin MS03-004 and Knowledge Base article 813951 which discuss the availability of a cumulative patch (e.g., a patch that includes the functionality of all previously released patches) for Internet Explorer 5.01, 5.5, 6.0. The patch eliminates two newly discovered vulnerabilities involving Internet Explorer’s cross-domain security model - which keeps windows of different domains from sharing information. These flaws results in Internet Explorer because incomplete security checking causes Internet Explorer to allow one website to potentially access information from another domain when using certain dialog boxes.

The vulnerability, which was reported to Microsoft by Andreas Sandblad of Sweden, could enable a malicious webmaster to load hostile code onto a user's system. In addition, the vulnerability could enable an attacker to invoke an executable that was already present on the local system, or take any other action available to the system owner.

Just proves how Microsoft messes up IE all the time.

[anwiii]

i would have liked to read more of that article, but you supplied no links to any articles. anytime you quote something news worthy, remember to link back to the original source. like i said, i wouldn't have liked to read about it more.

[mra550]

anwiii, on Jan 22 2010, 06:51 AM, said:

i would have liked to read more of that article, but you supplied no links to any articles. anytime you quote something news worthy, remember to link back to the original source. like i said, i wouldn't have liked to read about it more.

ohh yeah im sorry about not giving credits to where I originally read this news ill edit it sorry
about that the problem is I can't edit the post and can see the edit image i got the news from here

http://www.informationweek.com/news/servic...cleID=222301351

again sorry if i forgot to put the source of my quoted tags when I notice it I cant edit it

Edited by mra550, 22 January 2010 - 07:03 AM.

[Zagubadu·]

Used it at a age so young I didn't know how to download a program. Which was forever ago. Now I have Google Chrome and am very happy with it. I suggest it to anyone who likes the internet! Because believe me its the best way to surf it.

[mra550]

Zagubadu·, on Jan 22 2010, 08:57 AM, said:

Used it at a age so young I didn't know how to download a program. Which was forever ago. Now I have Google Chrome and am very happy with it. I suggest it to anyone who likes the internet! Because believe me its the best way to surf it.

yeah I agree its the best way to surf my internet works faster in google chrome than in my Firefox. Firefox is best on add ons
but sometimes laggy and slow so I also recommend google chrome safe and fast, and back to topic..
I didn't know that IE 8 is also vulnerable? XD

[-Sky-]

Lol, Internet Explorer failed the first few days it was released...and that was like...years ago. It actually makes me sick that Microsoft do not give a damn about their products and fails to update or atleast release a patch for Internet Explorer...

In my opinion, they are terrible liers and complete retards.

[mra550]

-Sky-, on Jan 22 2010, 10:23 AM, said:

Lol, Internet Explorer failed the first few days it was released...and that was like...years ago. It actually makes me sick that Microsoft do not give a damn about their products and fails to update or atleast release a patch for Internet Explorer...

In my opinion, they are terrible liers and complete retards.

Im thinking the same thing as you XD yes true they are liars and don't give the best service in their products
they always release risky softwares w/c is vulnerable to virus and they don't damn even care about this
and let other anti virus company to do the job so more money to expense thats so bad of them
as I knew Bill Gates got a case regarding the release of the Microsoft when they saw that he includes
IE into the OS which is not included for an OS that time you can't use any browser but only IE
Im so happy that we have more browsers today that is better than IE.

[-Sky-]

Yeah, so I don't know why they carry improving their crap products when they have security vulnerabilities..

[k_nitin_r]

Hi!

Microsoft's Internet Explorer still has a stronghold in enterprise computing. Firms have web applications that are compatible only with Internet Explorer because the web developers did not bother about standards compliance. There are still websites out there today that work with Internet Explorer but not with Firefox, Chrome or Safari. How do I know? The firm I work at builds web portals and they always seem to launch the first version as an Internet Explorer-only website and then try to build in compatibility later. Much later. It sometime takes months before they actually consider that visitors could be using a browser other than Microsoft's Internet Explorer and decide that they need to suit-up and make the decision to work on browser compatibility to maintain their brand image. From a business perspective, when over 70% of the website visitors use Microsoft Internet Explorer, why focus on Mozilla Firefox, Google Chrome, or even the Opera web browser?

[kleong]

Finally thing is, despite their frequent screwups, MS still rules. IMO, they are too entrenched in the tech world that despite their products not being up to standard, their can carry it off without much problems.

[mra550]

k_nitin_r, on Jan 22 2010, 10:28 AM, said:

Hi!

Microsoft's Internet Explorer still has a stronghold in enterprise computing. Firms have web applications that are compatible only with Internet Explorer because the web developers did not bother about standards compliance. There are still websites out there today that work with Internet Explorer but not with Firefox, Chrome or Safari. How do I know? The firm I work at builds web portals and they always seem to launch the first version as an Internet Explorer-only website and then try to build in compatibility later. Much later. It sometime takes months before they actually consider that visitors could be using a browser other than Microsoft's Internet Explorer and decide that they need to suit-up and make the decision to work on browser compatibility to maintain their brand image. From a business perspective, when over 70% of the website visitors use Microsoft Internet Explorer, why focus on Mozilla Firefox, Google Chrome, or even the Opera web browser?

yes you are right with that and I agree that some websites and applications can only be run in internet explorer but not in other
web browser well I don't know why Developers not making it universal and choosing internet explorer as their
standards but there are some good browsers than it and Internet Explorer sometimes didn't correctly display a webpage for some
reasons but if you will go check with other browsers its fine so sometimes I don't know what is the problem if is it IE or my
html XD and also loading websites with some errors where in firefox, chrome, opera doesnt have any errors

[deadmad7]

mra550, on Jan 22 2010, 05:41 AM, said:

yeah anyway I never use it now Im using google chrome and firefox my friend was using IE
but lately he found out that there are so many virus from IE in his cache XD I didn't know that
virus can obtained true cache? then his IE never opens again when opening theres always a pop up in the window
about the error the dont send thing

In the website designing world, people HAVE to design ALL their websites so that they work in internet explorer , as most of the appealing market use the 'old' internet explorer. But now they have introduced the compatibility option You can also clean the viruses using a good antivirus, dont blame IE or Microsoft.

[mra550]

deadmad7, on Jan 22 2010, 12:59 PM, said:

In the website designing world, people HAVE to design ALL their websites so that they work in internet explorer , as most of the appealing market use the 'old' internet explorer. But now they have introduced the compatibility option You can also clean the viruses using a good antivirus, dont blame IE or Microsoft.

yes definitely we are not blaming MS because atleast they develop the popular windows OS we like that
and most people like that also their Visual Basic and ASP and their office tools those tools/software are very
useful for us today what we don't like is the Performance of their Web browser which is the IE
the problem with microsoft is we need to get an anti virus yes another money to spend and another risk since
not all antivirus software are safe and certified by MS

[Soviet Rathe]

Microsoft has always been careless about their products, just like the "New" MSN Messenger, it doesn't work at all for over %80 of people who are "Forced" to update to it. Microsoft knows this and yet they do nothing.
Internet Explorer is no exception, the newest version 8.0 crashes/freezes for the most users and there has been no patch to fix this problem, which is why it's suggested by many sources that people use IE7 instead.

Since the release of Windows 7 Microsoft has stopped releasing software updates for Windows XP/Vista such as the new WMP12 and are focusing on Windows 7

I have always loved Mozilla Firefox, especially since I'm a developer and the way it works, just works and to my knowledge, it's the only browser that displays code CORRECTLY

mra550, on Jan 22 2010, 07:35 AM, said:

yes definitely we are not blaming MS because atleast they develop the popular windows OS we like that
and most people like that also their Visual Basic and ASP and their office tools those tools/software are very
useful for us today what we don't like is the Performance of their Web browser which is the IE
the problem with microsoft is we need to get an anti virus yes another money to spend and another risk since
not all antivirus software are safe and certified by MS

Yea I don't know about you but I most defiantly am blaming Microsoft, even their Operating Systems have been built broken. worst of all is Windows Vista. a lucky few have used Vista without problems. and keeping one of their operating systems running good costs alot of money in software like regcure and whatnot unless you pirate them which most are forced to do because of the ridiculous prices. before I got good software I had to reformat my XP install every 6 months -.-

Edited by Soviet Rathe, 22 January 2010 - 09:21 PM.

[evilsmiley25]

Soviet Rathe, on Jan 22 2010, 04:11 PM, said:

Microsoft has always been careless about their products, just like the "New" MSN Messenger, it doesn't work at all for over %80 of people who are "Forced" to update to it. Microsoft knows this and yet they do nothing.
Internet Explorer is no exception, the newest version 8.0 crashes/freezes for the most users and there has been no patch to fix this problem, which is why it's suggested by many sources that people use IE7 instead.

I have always loved Mozilla Firefox, especially since I'm a developer and the way it works, just works and to my knowledge, it's the only browser that displays code CORRECTLY

Yeah, I prefer to use Mozilla Firefox over all other browsers. Although it does crash for me sometimes, it is one of the best browsers there is around. Internet Explorer is just a piece of crap, and it is extremely slow. I still have it installed on my computer, but I never bother to use it. I keep getting pestered by microsoft auto-update to keep updating to Internet Explorer 8, and after everything I have read about it, I do not even want it just sitting there on the desktop, even if it is no used. I can not stand using that browser anymore. I used it when I was young, back in the early 2000s, because it was what most everyone had. It was fine back then, when there was less competition, but I much rather prefer to use Mozilla Firefox these days. Even the high school I attend upgraded to Firefox. I never see anyone using IE at school, either. Even people who are not *technical geeks* or do not know everything about computers realize how awful of a web browser it really is.

[kayli404]

Man, internet explorer was never good. ;_;

[networker]

Internet explorer has always been virus prone. That's why I never use it, and haven't for years.
Although I sometimes use Opera and Safari, which I might use more, Mozilla has always been great
as far as never being hit by viruses when using it. Why I don't know. Perhaps it has something to do
with being prompted for downloads.
The more you use Microsoft the more susceptible to Viruses you appear to be. For example, any
microsoft sql software on your computer is a favorite target for these viruses.
I've been talking about switching to Linux for a long time and haven't yet, but it's inevitable.

[Spyda]

Most frequent web users do not use Internet Explorer. It's usually the people who frequent it the least and/or the people who at work or at a library where their only browser option is Internet Explorer. So, they cannot really do much in terms of finding a new browser for themselves

[Soviet Rathe]

networker, on Jan 23 2010, 11:11 AM, said:

I've been talking about switching to Linux for a long time and haven't yet, but it's inevitable.

I tried switching to ubuntu once, then I burned the disc.. and crapped on the ashes.....
the longer you have used windows the harder it is to get used to linux. but don't get me wrong, it's a great OS but it has terminals like command prompt. but I couldn't even figure out how to install a program that was made for it let alone installing WINE so I can use windows programs

[aurocks]

I can't really support Google or their Chrome browser.

I mean I use their search engine (only because of Gmail and the iGoogle interface) and am even considering buying a phone with their Android software.
The problem is the CEO guy (forgot his name) claims his company's not a monopoly and everything his company is about is againstMicrosoft. Microsoft
is bad according to him. To me, this is just ridiculous. Google is totally a monopoly. I was really pissed off when they bought YouTube and now look at it.
Everything that made YouTube good was taken out after Google got their hands on it. You have to do things like link your Google Account to your YouTube account and that is pure garbage.

Anyways, back I topic, I use Internet Explorer when my Firefox isn't working. That's about it. I also agree that no one should be using it unless they have to.

[Nelson Blogs]

Yeah, I heard about those chinese exploiters on my RSS feed. Anyways, I almost never use Internet Explorer because it is the worst browser ever. What is horrible is that a majority of the people who surf the web use Internet Explorer. They should switch to Firefox, Opera, Chrome, etc. All of those are better than MSIE.

[wonderfullygifted]

IE, is a really bad program.
From experience, I have not liked it, and every PC user I tend to talk to, I try to convert them to Mozilla ASAP.
Also, I don't like google chrome, I heard some of google's programs are spyware, and google chrome has some sort of bug that it'll download files or something. I haven't really gotten into it, but I just stick to good ol' mozilla

[legend112]

Internet explorer shouldn't even be called a browser.

This I learned four years ago

Its been blasted by everyone and called Idiot Explorer, which i thick is a fitting title!

[SoundStorm]

Support IE ? NO WAY !!! There was a joke about this...

Why do people used Internet Explorer ?
0.5% - because they like it
1.5% - because they aren't aware that other browsers exist
98% - to download Mozilla Firefox

IE is just useless in every way... i see no reason to use it.
Mozilla gives you a way faster browser, tons of plug ins for development and it's just fun to use.