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[OpaQue]

Dear Members,

We are pleased to introduce "The Ultimate Plan". This package is available in both Windows and Linux Platform. The prices are yearly and hence only members with a lot of credits can buy this package. However, its a yearly plan and once purchased, you have a whole year to again make up for your mycents.

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What is the Catch?
You do not have ADDON domains. Which means, you cannot use this account to host 100 different websites.
No Shell Access.

[-Sky-]

Thanks, basically you just edited the Ideal plan, edited the description and made it even MORE expensive... Just awesome...dude, only a spammer posting 5000 lines could get 100 dollars a year/month or what ever..

[Baniboy]

Why? Why everyone is overselling these days? What is the point of this when you don't allow stuff like streaming, IRC and other bandwidth-raping features? This is pointless! Why not add-on domains and no shell access (although I've never used, but might be useful). This is useless. There truly is a catch, and this particular catch is incredibly stupid.

-Sky-, on Feb 20 2010, 11:33 AM, said:

only a spammer posting 5000 lines could get 100 dollars a year/month or what ever..

I wouldn't say that, for example my earning ratio is $0.17/post and if raised to 20 cents a post I would have to post 500 posts a year to keep that plan up. I'm a little lazy on posting but if I had the motivation and time, it would be easily achievable.

[FouGilang]

USD $97.80 per year, so it's about USD$ 8 per month. Well, i don't see any reason to choose this package though. With my earning rate at the moment, it could take me to post a whole year to pay this one.

[deadmad7]

This is pretty lame... The Unlimited Plan for $7 a month was probably the best plan on the site and now its been replaced with the same features for double the amount and there is NO way people would sign up for myCents to get that plan.. you have to be more reasonable. I was seriously considering planning that plan with myCents and now i cant But i am curious, what happens to the people who already have this plan? Do it still continue or is this the last month/year?

Baniboy, on Feb 20 2010, 10:55 AM, said:

Why? Why everyone is overselling these days? What is the point of this when you don't allow stuff like streaming, IRC and other bandwidth-raping features? This is pointless! Why not add-on domains and no shell access (although I've never used, but might be useful). This is useless. There truly is a catch, and this particular catch is incredibly stupid.



I wouldn't say that, for example my earning ratio is $0.17/post and if raised to 20 cents a post I would have to post 500 posts a year to keep that plan up. I'm a little lazy on posting but if I had the motivation and time, it would be easily achievable.

[mahesh2k]

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You do not have ADDON domains. Which means, you cannot use this account to host 100 different websites.
No Shell Access.

Opaque this plan competes with Dreamhost price as far as i know. But Only trouble in the plan here is add-on domains/shell access restriction. >_< I mean what's the point in that ? I don't think anyone will pick it up just to host single site or it's subdomain sites. Maybe some people will do for membership sites. On the positive point, i can say this is good plan for those who are into membership blogs, subforums etc etc.

Not competitive in comparison to justhost, fatcow etc. But oh well i'm not sure if they offer streaming sites scripts if they do then their plan overtakes this unlimited plan.

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USD $97.80 per year, so it's about USD$ 8 per month. Well, i don't see any reason to choose this package though. With my earning rate at the moment, it could take me to post a whole year to pay this one.

@Fougilang, people are using plans from Dreamhost, hostgator which costs similar (except that shell access and add-on domain point). So 97$ a year is what people are paying out there for un-metered service. So any-one are from trap17, not from outside it. People outside are paying that much amount for 1 year trusted hosting.

My only guess about opaque's restriction is that he doesn't want anyone to abuse the service(by starting rip-off hosting services like hoswoot.com etc). Which i can clearly guess from the restriction that he placed.

[OpaQue]

This hosting is best for my members who are interested in giving a lot of data, graphics, music and videos for download. Who wants to create unlimited email accounts and distribute it to his users or clients.. etc. Not allowing Addon-domain and Shell access feature prevents abuse.

Allowing this package for monthly term is again asking for abuse. I have members who buy a package to upload massive data and choke the servers. After their job is done, they leave. :-)

We have this new package which is even more reliable and we even backup your data on daily basis. Due to the risks, I prefer it to be mainly available for good contributing members and precious clients with credit card.

[deadmad7]

I just got a HUGE hint for site... I could make my site with a small hosting plan (logic pro) and then gain enough money from ads and other stuff so that i could get money from there and some from mycents! Of course, that is if you take money from myCents and PayPal at the same time. I was wondering if you can pay like that, thats probably the only way i can get that plan...or post for a year and by the time i get my plan, its gonna be 2012 and we are all gonna die.. and everything is gonna be crazy and the internet will be waste after that.

OpaQue, on Feb 20 2010, 05:11 PM, said:

This hosting is best for my members who are interested in giving a lot of data, graphics, music and videos for download. Who wants to create unlimited email accounts and distribute it to his users or clients.. etc. Not allowing Addon-domain and Shell access feature prevents abuse.

Allowing this package for monthly term is again asking for abuse. I have members who buy a package to upload massive data and choke the servers. After their job is done, they leave. :-)

We have this new package which is even more reliable and we even backup your data on daily basis. Due to the risks, I prefer it to be mainly available for good contributing members and precious clients with credit card.

[anwiii]

dang! i don't know what the fuss is about. you still have the two lowest packages available which would really suite most any website. the first package includes 5 addon domains and what...the second offers ONE HUNDRED. i think it's good that computinghost.com is mixing it up a little bit and i can definately see an advantage of that type of hosting although it really does promote over selling where computinhost said they wouldn't stoop, and started on that path a couple years ago or so.

i still think that one day computinghost should start thinking about competing with the other well known webhosts out there that offer virtually unlimited features for 5-$6. but see, when you offer such low rates, you run a very big risk of someone abusing the servers as well. but that's why the cheapest prices are for a 24 month term.

well i personally like the package, but i doubt i would ever need it. if i were to change it, i would definately offer 3-5 addon domains. the people complaining about how they can't earn enough mycents in a year are people who don't know any better and just like to complain about any little thing. in fact. people CAN earn $100. i started with $90 in june of last year when i bought my hosting and a domain for a year which cost me $30. so i was left with $60 credit. it's now 8 months later (2/3 of a year) and i have almost $300 in credits now. so i am averaging more than DOUBLE that hosting package every year. the key is to post for your hosting if you want the package you want. so if people can complain how they can't earn enough mycents, i guess opaque can complain how people can't get off their butts and post. works both ways folks! although we never see him complain. i can imagine him sitting at his computer desk thinking all sorts of thoughts! haha....

[Ash-Bash]

Maybe you should think about offshore hosting and allowing linking to Warez, A ton of offshore companies earn more that normal web host's like this.

[akira550]

wow trap17 is progressing evey single day and new features are really stunning and make members happy. This is the best and cheap package its like a 1 year hosting of logic plan. However I still can't afford it xD because of lack of mycent, well I'll save more anyway mm shell access is fine for me even if its disabled

[anwiii]

just because you set up a business offshore, doesn't make it completely legal, ash. there are new presidents being made every year as time goes by with laws for the internet and countries like the u.s. who have already sued offshore companies. this is mainly due to the fact that some transactions don't always accur affshore, but in the united states as well. that's why it's almost impossible now to even try to gamble online in the united states(with a few exceptions). if you researched any laws regarding this nature, you would think twice before making blanket statements and suggestions that can lead to people getting in trouble.

now i no expert in this offshore area, but i wouldn't ever conclude that your suggestion is legal either....

Ash-Bash, on Feb 21 2010, 03:13 PM, said:

Maybe you should think about offshore hosting and allowing linking to Warez, A ton of offshore companies earn more that normal web host's like this.

[mahesh2k]

Ash-Bash, on Feb 22 2010, 02:43 AM, said:

Maybe you should think about offshore hosting and allowing linking to Warez, A ton of offshore companies earn more that normal web host's like this.

Somehow i don't feel the intention of this post as good. Do you know how hard it is to run hosting ? I bet you don't. Making sarcastic remarks on owner about moving server and asking him to run warez-linking is wisest idea of all ?

The reason opaque added this restriction is because of people like you might start up rip-off services like litesh and post here something like "start warez linking rule". Do you understand the issue of warez hosting ? Do you know the legal hassles of warez ? Do you know what he'll go through if he gets caught with warez stuff promotion ? Even if he hosted his stuff in countries where warez or something is not illegal, some laws still applies as his origin country is india, and will not allow him to start business on that model.

Let me ask you, do you want xisto to close for your this suggestion. Seriously, out of all the posts i have seen in this thread this is one of the ignorant(or sarcastic) suggestion of all. In this case, let me ask you how many warez site or stuff you own ? Are you afraid to disclose names ? if you don't run any, then how are you so sure that others are in profit ? just cause they're hosted in ireland, poland hiding from law makes them profitable cause of bunch of pirates ?

If you're interested in warez stuff, rip-off hosting services, let me know i'll gladly forward you to such sites. Your these two lines of post look more like sarcastic rant to me than some suggestion. Either you're aware of what you say to him (sarcastically) or you've no idea about warez/rip-off business model at all.

If i'm right about opaque's location, then USA hosting is already offshore for him and there is no need to change him just that cause many clients come to him as servers are hosted in US.

I know many of us are not happy with this plan ( this includes me), but asking for business model based on warez is one of the ignorant suggestion of all.

[Quatrux]

Well for such a plan, if you need so much of resources when I guess 8$ a month isn't much for you, you can lets say get 4$ by posting a month and by transferring them through paypal.

So basically, you choose the plan you need and which you can handle, there is not need to use this ultimate hosting plan and use only 1% of what it offers.

[The Simpleton]

This is a really good plan and I would have taken it had it not been for the absence of add-on domains. I'm presently running three websites on my $6.66 account and it would have been really good if this new package had a reasonable amount of add-on domains, like, 20 or 30. That still leaves a lot of chance for abuse but it would at least make a few people like me happy. It doesn't seem to have add-on options like the other packages so I'm not very attracted to this right now. But hey, just for a small number of 10 add-on domains, I would definitely consider taking this package.

[buxgoddess]

Like anybody else I would have been glad had this been plan with addon domains. But for me it just seems no use as I do not have a forum that would be google search friendly. Anyways those who have this plan allows you to have this plan for maximum benefit for a single website. And thanks Admin to offer us another excellent plan.

[kobra500]

I don't think $100 a year is that bad, for one I can easily earn $1 a day by posting so over if you can get $1 every 3 days your laughing, and also

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This hosting is best for my members who are interested in giving a lot of data, graphics, music and videos for download

- I'll hold you to that opaque. $100 dollars for hosting is no biggy and while the lack of addon domains is a shame I'll admit, I think perhaps opaque should perhaps open them up as a feature (It may help him sell more domains).

[Baniboy]

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This hosting is best for my members who are interested in giving a lot of data, graphics, music and videos for download

So let's say hypothetically, you can do streaming and it won't go against the TOS? I thought xisto didn't let people stream or have chat-rooms and host a download archive?

[mahesh2k]

Two good points here posted by baniboy and the_simpleton. Are we allowed to have youtube or streaming site with that bandwidth ? I mean if we have that much bandwidth and no-addon then only good site we have with that is either elgg or buddypress type of communities or youtube style video communities. Streaming sites will require a lot of resources and that is why i think you may or may not allow that but then what is the use of unlimited resource ?

Another point that is raised by the_simpleton is if we are allowed to have 5 or 10 domains for add-on then i guess this will not hurt for sure. isn't it ? i don't know if 5 add-on domain to this plan could abuse or not but i think that will be one good way out of this issue. but then again these are just my views based on what people commented here. :|

[Spyda]

Yes.... I saw this while I was at Xistosupport.com. I think it's a very nice plan, indeed. It wouldn't suit me since I have a variety of domains and this doesn't allow addon domains.

[fermin25]

Oh it is very expensive I imagine that all those who want this package have to be posting here until June or something like that. Well my sites are not so popular so I can make my hosting with the basic logic plan but sinceresly I think that this is a little exagerated.

Congratulations to all the staff of trap17 and xisto for their cooperation with this type of package that definetly will help to a lot of members.

Regards.

[Spyda]

fermin25, on Mar 3 2010, 12:16 PM, said:

Oh it is very expensive I imagine that all those who want this package have to be posting here until June or something like that. Well my sites are not so popular so I can make my hosting with the basic logic plan but sinceresly I think that this is a little exagerated.

Congratulations to all the staff of trap17 and xisto for their cooperation with this type of package that definetly will help to a lot of members.

Regards.

Yes, but it lasts for one full year so you can post for, lets say a month or so and then you don't have to for a very long time afterwards. Furthermore, Opaque himself said that this plan would fit well for people who have a credit card and combine it with their mycents. So, for example, they use some of their MyCent to cover some of the costs, but use their credit card to pay off the rest.

[r2y2a2n]

Oh my gosh!
This is a rip off!
If it was about $25.00 I might and I say might buy it!

You have got to stop overselling PLEASE.

[mahesh2k]

r2y2a2n, on Mar 10 2010, 11:53 PM, said:

Oh my gosh!
This is a rip off!
If it was about $25.00 I might and I say might buy it!

You have got to stop overselling PLEASE.

May i know how this overselling ? And restricting people to add-on domains is overselling ? Or placing price 97$ which is quite normal on unlimited hosting plans on the internet is overselling ?

And where in the wet dreams of kim kardashian we can buy unlimited reliable hosting for 25$/year ? If you know any place let us know.

I know mr.troll, your post was hit-and-run like some others in this thread. So can you explain us how it is rip-off ? and how it is overselling at price 97$/year ? If you manage to troll here again please answer these questions for me.

[paul111]

Hello,

Today I use this forum for first time.This hosting is best for my members who are interested in giving a lot of data, graphics, music and videos for download. Who wants to create unlimited email accounts and distribute it to his users or clients.. etc. My only guess about opaque's restriction is that he doesn't want anyone to abuse the service(by starting rip-off hosting services like hoswoot.com etc). Which i can clearly guess from the restriction that he placed.I m very happy after using this forum.

Thank You.