OpaQue, on Mar 17 2010, 03:27 AM, said:
Nothing is going on in my head apart from what New People coming to this forum think about it and us. Its about the heart begging for a good name for our forums. Like anwii said, he could understand a meaning behind the name and also some cons. But what about the name "trap17" as it is ?
when i think about a name, it's not all i am thinking about. the meaning is important. the promotion is also important. combining both is VERY important.
it's not just about changing a name because if you build it, it doesn't mean they will come. so if we aren't talking about promotion, then all we are talking about is what the new name will mean to the current members and future members and will it have an impact.
to me, newsutra is more spiritual in nature and doesn't take on a non spiritual aspect so just the name itself without visiting the forums, could be a turnoff when thinking about the name itself and the keyword "sutra" will target a smaller audience. at the same time, the name itself(like i said in a previous post) that it could encourage possibly an older generation or a more mature generation(thought wise).
changing a name where trap17 has already been proven successful just by the search results in google is risky in my opinion and if i owned trap, i wouldn't consider any name change. especially as a starting point for any change. 301's are ok, but for a big forum like this, any new posts wont even rank as well until the new domain is built up in a year or so. so that is something to think about too. so that means advertising revenue on new posts will be lower.
i actually love the name newsutra, but not for a general forum. i even liked trap17, but it still not something i would have originally chosen but now i am just used to it and it would be sad to see it go.
off topic: if it were me, i would start an advertising blitz on social network sites and as i mentioned in a previous post, some youtube videos. i would run games and contests here to promote it up and encourage activity. SOVIET had the right idea when he started the "wish thread" to promote such activity it died out, but it had to have been the most active thread i had seen in a while...in a no post count category even. i think a chatroom would be good to encourage communication and even more of a community environment where people can get to know eachother on a more personal level. one thing about a community, it's hard to leave it when you get attatched. more mods to monitor things even if it's on a trial basis to see if they can handle the responsibility or a leadership role. that will clear the spam i always see and new users seeing which really downgrade the forum when people have to see certain things and it would make the current mods responsibilites less since there are more people to handle the load. also, a user suggested something in the past that i agree with HIGHLY in that no post should be left unanswered if there is a question involved or a user who wanted to create a discussion. there should be a response within 34-36 hours. if new users come here to post something and see their post was just ignored, they will go somewhere else. i would. there has to be a way to que threads that there is only one post in there and can be updated every 24 hours or so. sometimes posts can easily get lost when there is a surge of activity and the most recent posts get hidden. i would also suggest making it easier for new users to sign up and link accounts. i personally find it confusing and i have been here for a while. new users find it difficult and i believe we lose members who are afraid to ask questions. it's not only confusing, but there is just so much to read for a new user. some of the information that a new user reads is also outdated. nothing is simple and easy and can get confusing. so if we could update the rules, and then write something simple where a user can follow step by step to link to xisto.....and then maybe a frequently asked questions or something just to make it easier for new members.
now back on topic. opaque, you have created something great here. could be better, and it could be worse. the point is, it is something great and i don't think a new name could ever take it's place. as far as it could be better, i think implementing changes like the ones i've mentioned would do more good than any name change. not that a name change couldn't be beneficial, but not without the combination of other changes. this is why i was wondering what your thoughts were and if they just revolved around a name change. again, if i was the owner of a site like yours and was considering a name change, a name change would not be the only thing i would be thinking about. that's just me though....
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and spent time as no-lifer on trap17. 
