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[web_designer]

how you define our natural resources as SHE or HE??
i think this is interesting topic to discuss about. i was talking with a friend about that and this make me curious so i google it, and found there are many debates about that. defining the natural resources depending on many issues like languages, religions and what is common in a certain area.
so what do you think or how do you name ( SUN, MOON, CLOUD, WIND, STAR, SKY, RAIN, earth )??

to me, SUN is she, MOON is he, CLOUD is she, WIND is he, STAR is she, SKY is he, RAIN is he, and EARTH is she.
maybe it sounds funny but i used to named them this way. i am looking for your replies.

[anwiii]

in some religions, it would be the sun god and the moon goddess. the sun will take on the male form and the moon will take on the female form.

you have an interesting way of looking at things when you can start naming the clouds and the wind and "blow me" takes on a whole new meaning!

[deadmad7]

I believe in what Anwiii said, that it kind of depends on your religious views and a little bit of science in it too, but its mostly how you look at things, so each person has a different opinion about this.

I say that the SUN is he, MOON is she, CLOUD is he, WIND is she, STAR is she, SKY is he, RAIN is she, and EARTH she.

[sheepdog]

Interesting.
I've actually never considered an icy cold hunk of rock, or a huge hot fireball as either male or female, though now thinking about it I could see wind being male, since most males are blow hards anyway

Earth has always been mother earth to me, so I'll go along with that one. Stars could go either way, as female, bright and twinkly, or male, distant and only visible at night. Same with clouds, as female, bright fluffy, or male, of no actual substance, just wispy and fleeting. Can't make my mind up on sky either, beautiful and blue with the female, or dark and dangerous as male. Rain? Well, they world couldn't not survive with out some rain, (that would be the female side) or if you believe the story of the great flood in Noah's day, too much rain, (male) could also be the end of the world.

[anwiii]

haha you talk about the male version so evil. sheeeesh. but there is one fact. it isn't called mother nature for no reason whether the sky is blue or there is a hurricane. also, most male forms have the prettier characteristics. the easiest to notice this is in birds or fish. but in all seriously, it really defined in certain religious beliefs. if someone doesn't incoprorate those beliefs, it's rare to put a gender to the parts of nature like the sun and the moon, the rain and the clouds, thunder and lightening, etc....

mother nature or mother earth are just words to most. nothing more. i think most people take nature for granted and we underestimate their energies.

[web_designer]

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Interesting.
I've actually never considered an icy cold hunk of rock, or a huge hot fireball as either male or female, though now thinking about it I could see wind being male, since most males are blow hards anyway

Earth has always been mother earth to me, so I'll go along with that one. Stars could go either way, as female, bright and twinkly, or male, distant and only visible at night. Same with clouds, as female, bright fluffy, or male, of no actual substance, just wispy and fleeting. Can't make my mind up on sky either, beautiful and blue with the female, or dark and dangerous as male. Rain? Well, they world couldn't not survive with out some rain, (that would be the female side) or if you believe the story of the great flood in Noah's day, too much rain, (male) could also be the end of the world.

i think what you said here like a poetry. and you are good in determining qualities even as anwiii said you related the harsh qualities to males and soft qualities to females, hahaaa but you are right in a way.

[sheepdog]

I, like mother nature, do have a sense of humor. Believe it or not, (my post may not sound like it) I do like men. After all, what would us woman have to complain about and make fun of if it wasn't for men?

Your right about males having the prettier characteristics, as I said, mother nature must definatly be female and have a sense of humor, for it is the bright loud colored strutting male peacock that gets nabbed by the predator while the drab quiet hen sits on the nest and does her part to ensure the survival of the species.

[web_designer]

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Believe it or not, (my post may not sound like it) I do like men. After all, what would us woman have to complain about and make fun of if it wasn't for men?

haha, i really like your replies always funny and realistic. and your reply now reminds me of someone said "MEN, CAN'T LIVE WITH THEM OR LIVE WITHOUT THEM" .

about the animal thing, i also agree that the males animals always have the attractive characters, thanks good we are human and things goes differently for us .

[sukhi]

I think it would depend upon it's nature. Sun is fiery and like a rider which has male characteristics. The moon being nimble and gracious and easy to look gives it a feminish outlook
Ofcourse many like in hinduism consider moon to be a God and hence male.
In the deeper sense , in every person there are qualities of both and still some which they dont share also.
Also in hinduism , all Gods and Goddesses are taken as pairs of individuals which makes them unity.
For me the moon and sun and all are both. Nothing is black or white or male or female in the sphere of logic but when looked artistically .. mmm .. would go with
moon being female and sun being male

[web_designer]

well..that's interesting. most of you refer to the sun as male and moon as female. may that depend on our gender here, i mean every male see the moon as a female and sun as male, and every female see the moon as male and sun ad a female.  

anyone agree on this?

[sheepdog]

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haha, i really like your replies always funny and realistic. and your reply now reminds me of someone said "MEN, CAN'T LIVE WITH THEM OR LIVE WITHOUT THEM" .

Actually, I thought that went "can't live with them, but it's illegal to shoot them?"

Recently I was doing a bit of studying of the Spanish language. It seems to me that the Spanish have male/female variations for every single word in the language. Even rocks and trees can be male or female. It' quite confusing, I can't figure out how they determine the sexes of rocks and things.

[web_designer]

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Actually, I thought that went "can't live with them, but it's illegal to shoot them?"

i agree on this sometimes   but not always.

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Recently I was doing a bit of studying of the Spanish language. It seems to me that the Spanish have male/female variations for every single word in the language. Even rocks and trees can be male or female. It' quite confusing, I can't figure out how they determine the sexes of rocks and things.

well, it makes sense because in other languages there is two kind of definition for everything, one for male and one for female. for example:

in French language, the sun is male and the moon is female, the sky is male and the wind is male, the rain is male and the cloud is male. the earth is female and the star is female.

[OpaQue]

This is an interesting thought

I would like to give you a short story of what I believe about evolution and creation. The universe is based on DUALITY. First, if there was light only and if it called itself HE / FATHER, then the darkness called herself mother. Both had no regrets of whatever properties they had...

Talking Spiritually, Every entity of Spirit becomes HE and the rest becomes SHE.

SUN - he
MOON - she

CLOUD - he
sky - she

WIND - He
Air - She

STAR - He
Space - She

Rain - He
Water - She

earth - She
Sky - He

[web_designer]

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I would like to give you a short story of what I believe about evolution and creation. The universe is based on DUALITY. First, if there was light only and if it called itself HE / FATHER, then the darkness called herself mother. Both had no regrets of whatever properties they had...

Talking Spiritually, Every entity of Spirit becomes HE and the rest becomes SHE.

SUN - he
MOON - she

CLOUD - he
sky - she

WIND - He
Air - She

STAR - He
Space - She

Rain - He
Water - She

earth - She
Sky - He

interesting opinion opaque, and i agree about the duality in universe. it seems like one thing completes the other. and i think this is a proof on how god creates everything in the world to be different but in the same time complete each other, just like the human being how they are competes each other when they are different. 

[kobra500]

The French and the Spanish like to call everything HE & SHE and I find it ridiculously annoying because it makes learning which is which from an outsider all the more difficult, apart from the fact that inanimate objects and stars and clouds are completely asexual. Of course English too has its stupid rules and regulations which make it a pain for an outsider. Saying all this I will answer your question.

"she's"
Sun, Earth, Clouds and Stars I would say

"He's"
by process of elimination Wind, Rain, Sky, Moon are he's

though as I said, I don't like assigning genders to genderless things or spirits to well.... anything.

But dualism is always a flawed concept to me, no matter how much we try to assign meanings to things, although we can successful do so that doesn't make them more than just atoms and molecules, not to say things are meaningless; far from it but that the meanings that we assign are not transcendent and are not reality they are just a concept or idea.

Edited by kobra500, 10 June 2010 - 02:45 PM.

[web_designer]

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"she's"
Sun, Earth, Clouds and Stars I would say

"He's"
by process of elimination Wind, Rain, Sky, Moon are he's

great kobra, you are the first one here who considered the sun as female and moon as male, just like me. happy for not being alone in the world who thinks so  .

[anwiii]

web_designer, on 10 June 2010 - 02:52 PM, said:

great kobra, you are the first one here who considered the sun as female and moon as male, just like me. happy for not being alone in the world who thinks so  .

actually, that is not true. hurt4love responded first in agreement with what you originally posted. don't know why. again, putting genders to nature is usually through certain religions. it's an interesting point though that certain languages put genders to nature and objects. spanish is one of those languages i studied that does this. i really don't have a clue to the history of languages to know why they do that, but i can assume it probably has something to with their culture. the spanish language also distiguishes between formal and informal.....depending on who you are talking to or who you are talking about.

[web_designer]

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actually, that is not true. hurt4love responded first in agreement with what you originally posted. don't know why. again, putting genders to nature is usually through certain religions. it's an interesting point though that certain languages put genders to nature and objects. spanish is one of those languages i studied that does this. i really don't have a clue to the history of languages to know why they do that, but i can assume it probably has something to with their culture. the spanish language also distiguishes between formal and informal.....depending on who you are talking to or who you are talking about.

well, maybe she said that between us but i can't remember, anyway i will ask her to post her though.

and i think that original languages like French, Spanish, germen..ect. add a genders to nature to differ them from objects. because nature resources like sun, moon, rain, wind....ect do an action unlike the objects which do nothing.

and you could find this in languages other than English because English is not an original language but it is a hybrid language that originally had been invented long time ago when the need for communicate between different people that speak different languages appeared. therefor, English been invented to make all the world understand one language other than their mother language to communicate better and understand each other better. and this is why you can find a similarity between words in French or Spanish and words in English.   

i always admire the one who came up with this idea, and implemented it, i can't remember who is he, but maybe i will do more research about that  .

[rpgsearcherz]

I refer to all of the above as "it." I do not really see inanimate objects as being males or females. As others have pointed out though, some people use the Greek genders for them -- such as Shiva would be the Goddess of Ice, so they might refer to ice as being a "she."

[anwiii]

i think most people will refer to them as "it". i think the real question here though is if you were to personally assign a gender to those things, what would the genders be. "it" is a very general word so i think the point of the thread was to be more specific. heck, i've referred to a baby as an "it" before i.e. "it's getting hungry" or "it's getting tired", etc...

so let's start out simple. if you had to, would you say the sun is a HE or a SHE?

[web_designer]

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i think most people will refer to them as "it". i think the real question here though is if you were to personally assign a gender to those things, what would the genders be. "it" is a very general word so i think the point of the thread was to be more specific. heck, i've referred to a baby as an "it" before i.e. "it's getting hungry" or "it's getting tired", etc...

so let's start out simple. if you had to, would you say the sun is a HE or a SHE?

i said that before anwiii, most of other languages give them a gender. only english and maybe a few more language don't. 

and never mind calling a baby by "it". they deserve it, they are naughty most of the time  . and i still say, i call the sun as "SHE" and the moon as "HE".

[rpgsearcherz]

I would refer to things relating to storms or destruction as being "he's" then (the sun, the moon, tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, etc.) and I would refer to those that reflect more of the nurturing things as being "she's" (such as water, snow, the sky, foods, etc.).

[Shahrukh]

web_designer, on 24 May 2010 - 10:25 AM, said:

how you define our natural resources as SHE or HE??

I would rather call them all IT.
But then it would make speech very dull.

As other people have said, I think that gender of such things depends on the culture and religion and native language.

web_designer, on 24 May 2010 - 10:25 AM, said:

so what do you think or how do you name ( SUN, MOON, CLOUD, WIND, STAR, SKY, RAIN, earth )??

Sun: He
Moon: He. But moonlight is a she.
Cloud: He
Wind: She
Star: He
Rain: She
Earth: She

Because they are referred to this way in Urdu, my native language.

rpgsearcherz, on 02 July 2010 - 03:13 PM, said:

I would refer to things relating to storms or destruction as being "he's" then (the sun, the moon, tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, etc.) and I would refer to those that reflect more of the nurturing things as being "she's" (such as water, snow, the sky, foods, etc.).

Hey! Thats unfair. Men can be pretty nurturing too. And women can be destructive too.

Edited by Shahrukh, 24 July 2010 - 10:27 AM.

[web_designer]

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I would refer to things relating to storms or destruction as being "he's" then (the sun, the moon, tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, etc.) and I would refer to those that reflect more of the nurturing things as being "she's" (such as water, snow, the sky, foods, etc.).

i like your way of thinking rpgsearcherz even it is not always correct, like Shahrukh said, men could also be nurturing and tenderness just like women. and especially for someone i know who thinks that women are destructive more than men .

and Shahrukh, it is nice to think that MOONLIGHT is a she, i definitely think that too .

Edited by web_designer, 24 July 2010 - 08:50 PM.

[anwiii]

web_designer, on 24 July 2010 - 08:48 PM, said:

it is nice to think that MOONLIGHT is a she, i definitely think that too .

the moon is a he and moonlight is a she? what is this supposed to mean? the moon is gay and giving off feminine qualities? i would also have to say that that is one ugly "she" to be hiding in the dark!