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[Soviet Rathe]

The un-official KnowledgeSutra IRC is now up! Continue reading for complete details!

IRC stands for ''Internet Relay Chat'' it's a server that you can connect to from any IRC client! this is a new way to get help and have fun!
IRC clients are very light, use almost no computer resources and run in the background, un-noticed until you're ready to use it.
This will be an alternative to the shoutbox, it will be a new way to discuss in real-time chat without having to log into the forums.

IRC Administrator - Soviet Rathe

• If you already have an IRC client installed you can copy and paste this into your browser's address bar: irc://hub.dab.biz/knowledgesutra

If you don't have an IRC client and are running windows you can download YChat which is a 100% free alternative to xchat.

If you are running linux or ubuntu, you can get XChat for free!

sudo apt-get install xchat or look for a linux distro of XChat

If you have problems setting up or connecting your IRC client you can refer to this tutorial which applies to both XChat and YChat.
If all else fails or you just don't want to install a client you can use the web based client click here

Note: hosting irc servers is still banned from xisto, ComputingHost, and all other services related to xisto, this irc is in no way hosted, or affiliated with xisto servers.

All knowledgesutra mode and admins will get ops on the channel after they verify their identity.
You may see some of the normal KnowledgeSutra members with ops, these are highly trusted members who are helping run the IRC.

• Idea's - Things to be announced later:

Trivia night - Trivia night's will be hosted, other news about this will be announced.
More bot features - I'm working on a custom bot that will be fetching info from the forums and updating them in the IRC - among other things.
Domain - replacing the current domain to one that suits Knowledgesutra.

Have fun!


ADMINISTRATOR NOTE: We do our level best to use all available technologies on the web to present our data and ''communication services'' in the safest and best possible manner. SHOUTING and Chatting is fun and we have a CHAT feature on TOP menubar of KS, powered by Java Technology which runs within your chosen browser.

IRC is just another medium to communicate and Its necessary users understand IRC before using it. Please check your Computer Firewall is ON and you have installed an up-to-date AntiVirus Software, at any cost.

IRC chat is not OFFICIALLY monitored by our chosen moderators on this discussion forum. Hence, its an un-official communication Channel of KS.

[Soviet Rathe]

When the post was moved, the bb codes was stripped, It was a mistake by OpaQue I think so I will include the missing links below:
Link to YChat: http://www.silverex.org/download/
Link to the tutorial: http://img17.imagesh.../tutorialqr.png

[deadmad7]

We don't need an IRC anymore, the new ChatRoom is working fine and actually its way better than the ShoutBOX we had before. I really don't have any complaints about it except that you can't post and chat at the same time, though you can hear the sounds of new shouts. I don't think we desperately need an IRC anymore

[Soviet Rathe]

deadmad7, on 06 June 2010 - 07:42 AM, said:

We don't need an IRC anymore, the new ChatRoom is working fine and actually its way better than the ShoutBOX we had before. I really don't have any complaints about it except that you can't post and chat at the same time, though you can hear the sounds of new shouts. I don't think we desperately need an IRC anymore

well actually the IRC will be tied to the forums soon, I'm making a bot that will fetch new posts and announce them in the IRC an IRC is way more convenient then a bulky, browser based shoutbox, and you can have the client make sound when someone speaks.. just like the shout box

[Ash-Bash]

The IRC is awesome I hope it will stay up for many time yet to come for Knowledge Sutra. I hope it becomes more active some awesome things could happen in there. I look forward to meeting you members in there .

[web_designer]

thank you for your hard working soviet. i really admire what you are trying to do for the forum. you always come up with great ideas. good luck and continue the good working.

[anwiii]

web_designer, on 06 June 2010 - 09:35 AM, said:

thank you for your hard working soviet. i really admire what you are trying to do for the forum. you always come up with great ideas. good luck and continue the good working.

yes, i agree 100% and couldn't have said it better myself.

soviet- although unofficial, it has been made semi official when this thread was moved to the announcements. that's a given. you started something and now it's your responsibility to follow through, not give up, and make it a success. if you can't do this, then you will have less credibility in the future when people put their trust, faith, and support in you. i want to see great things come from this irc channel and i don't want to hear blaming that it's empty because the forums are empty. you started this to benefit the forum. not the other way around. so this will be a time to prove yourself and what you are capable of. you wanted the responsibility. i told you it will be a big one. now that you have what you asked for, what are you going to do with it? amaze us, soviet. with the ambition and dedication that i see from you, i know you have it in yourself but it's not going to be easy.

[rob86]

I'm having trouble with my internet the past few days but will return to the IRC chat to stay when I get it fixed. The IRC is *much* better than the chat. you don't have to have a resource hogging web browser open. You can log on however you want.. mirC, xchat, IrcII.. whatever is convenient. Hide it in the background and check it when you want. Plus Soviet installed a fun trivia game. It's addictive. Who knows what else is to come??

You're not really getting the 'full effect' by using the web based IRC anyway.

[Soviet Rathe]

Ash-Bash, on 06 June 2010 - 09:21 AM, said:

The IRC is awesome I hope it will stay up for many time yet to come for Knowledge Sutra. I hope it becomes more active some awesome things could happen in there. I look forward to meeting you members in there .

web_designer, on 06 June 2010 - 09:35 AM, said:

thank you for your hard working soviet. i really admire what you are trying to do for the forum. you always come up with great ideas. good luck and continue the good working.

anwiii, on 06 June 2010 - 02:24 PM, said:

yes, i agree 100% and couldn't have said it better myself.

soviet- although unofficial, it has been made semi official when this thread was moved to the announcements. that's a given. you started something and now it's your responsibility to follow through, not give up, and make it a success. if you can't do this, then you will have less credibility in the future when people put their trust, faith, and support in you. i want to see great things come from this irc channel and i don't want to hear blaming that it's empty because the forums are empty. you started this to benefit the forum. not the other way around. so this will be a time to prove yourself and what you are capable of. you wanted the responsibility. i told you it will be a big one. now that you have what you asked for, what are you going to do with it? amaze us, soviet. with the ambition and dedication that i see from you, i know you have it in yourself but it's not going to be easy.

Thanks for all your support, I've even got some regular's in the irc this will turn out well I just know it!

rob86, on 06 June 2010 - 05:59 PM, said:

I'm having trouble with my internet the past few days but will return to the IRC chat to stay when I get it fixed. The IRC is *much* better than the chat. you don't have to have a resource hogging web browser open. You can log on however you want.. mirC, xchat, IrcII.. whatever is convenient. Hide it in the background and check it when you want. Plus Soviet installed a fun trivia game. It's addictive. Who knows what else is to come??

You're not really getting the 'full effect' by using the web based IRC anyway.

I couldn't have said it better myself, web browsers hogg too much resources and don't run in the background, face it.. you cannot keep a web browser open the entire time you're on the internet.
an IRC client however, can run un-noticed on your task bar and is at your fingertips when you need it, I've heard some people say that they like the sound feature of the webchat, well an IRC client can be customized any way you want to, you can have tray balloons, sounds etc. and by default, you get a notification when someone mentions your username in the chat! there's really no cons to an IRC but there are so many pros.

Edited by Soviet Rathe, 06 June 2010 - 07:04 PM.

[OpaQue]

anwiii, on 06 June 2010 - 02:24 PM, said:

yes, i agree 100% and couldn't have said it better myself.

soviet- although unofficial, it has been made semi official when this thread was moved to the announcements. that's a given. you started something and now it's your responsibility to follow through, not give up, and make it a success. if you can't do this, then you will have less credibility in the future when people put their trust, faith, and support in you. i want to see great things come from this irc channel and i don't want to hear blaming that it's empty because the forums are empty. you started this to benefit the forum. not the other way around. so this will be a time to prove yourself and what you are capable of. you wanted the responsibility. i told you it will be a big one. now that you have what you asked for, what are you going to do with it? amaze us, soviet. with the ambition and dedication that i see from you, i know you have it in yourself but it's not going to be easy.

thank you anwii.I love the way you put our feelings into Words

[OpaQue]

Soviet Rathe, on 06 June 2010 - 07:02 PM, said:

Thanks for all your support, I've even got some regular's in the irc this will turn out well I just know it!




I couldn't have said it better myself, web browsers hogg too much resources and don't run in the background, face it.. you cannot keep a web browser open the entire time you're on the internet.
an IRC client however, can run un-noticed on your task bar and is at your fingertips when you need it, I've heard some people say that they like the sound feature of the webchat, well an IRC client can be customized any way you want to, you can have tray balloons, sounds etc. and by default, you get a notification when someone mentions your username in the chat! there's really no cons to an IRC but there are so many pros.

I m in. Please put some Good Tutorial LINKS here and an intro if possible with screen shots. How we can connect SAFELY and use IRC to socialize?

[rob86]

To be safe on IRC requires only the same common sense you would use on any other part of the internet. One slight difference is that (depending on the Admin's server configuration) your I.P. address may be visible to anyone. This is not very different than most things on the internet and really not a cause for extra concern. On Windows, to protect yourself against port scans etc you can download a free FireWall such as ZoneAlarm. You should have one anyway, regardless of IRC. On Linux you already have a firewall and you probably know how to secure your computer somewhat anyway.

You can also use a free Proxy on most IRC clients (if the Network permits.. which Soviet's claims not to but I used one) if you are paranoid.

Another thing to know about IRC is that most clients support DCC file transfers.. which is just a file transfer like you would have on any IM Messenger such as MSN. The only difference is it is possible for viruses to be sent out just like they are in email. This is a common tactic used in VERY popular channels on popular networks. Once again, this is relatively harmless unless you are very careless-- just DO NOT run ANY files you from people you don't trust. They will not download if you do not accept them, and some clients such as mIRC have potentially dangerous file types ignored by default. Common sense. Having an AntiVirus would help make things safer.

Here's a very important and less obvious safety tip. Some IRC clients such as the most popular mIRC has a very powerful scripting language. This means like any programming language, it has the potential to be used for evil purposes. For anyone running Linux.. you should already know that you should not run mysterious commands in the terminal. This applies to IRC as well.

DO NOT TYPE/PASTE ANY COMMANDS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND OR THAT LOOK SUSPICIOUS! There are a few ways for a knowledgeable mIRC scripter to encrypt a command, tell you to run it, and it could delete (mostly) EVERYTHING on your Windows computer. All mIRC commands begin with a slash (/) so do NOT feel curious if you see someone tell you "Hey guyzz.. this is AWESOME.. look at this... paste this line. /ZXVJOSADJ@#O%$J@#OJOSAJDSOZJCOXZCOSKFSOAK@#O$K@#OK%_!)%$". The only danger would come from actually copy and pasting this persons command and using it. Duh, don't do it!

If you're paranoid, you can use a client that doesn't support that style of scripting. But you are most likely safe.

Also, you don't want to click on strange web URL (links). Once again, this is just like if you were chatting or e-mailing anywhere else.


Well there are some safety tips. It is my belief that mIRC is perfectly safe as long as you follow the common sense you would always use on the internet. FireWall, AntiVirus will do well in protecting Windows users.

The 'dangerous command' I mentioned does sound scary given it's potential for destruction, but you will probably never see anyone attempt this anyway. I wouldn't worry about it. It's no different than someone giving you destructive Linux commands on a support forum or a Windows .bat file that deletes everything.

Keep in mind that as of this moment the server is run by Soviet's friend and has a small amount of users and the #KnowledgeSutra chat in particular only contains members of this forum. This means it is unlikely that somebody is going to target you for any kind of hacking attack anyway but it is prudent to be aware of the possibilities.

Soviet or anyone else might have more to add..

[The Simpleton]

Looks like I got onto this thread pretty late - first of all, a big thank you to Soviet Rathe for making this possible - your dedication to this forum is really praiseworthy. Actually I noticed this thread earlier and got into the channel using Pidgin, but thanks to the time difference whenever I logged in the room was empty (rather, it was inactive). So till now I haven't had a chance to use the IRC to chat, but I hope to do so sometime soon. I hope the other members will keep up their support too

Rob's post covers most of the things one needs to know about IRC - thanks for writing Rob! My only gripe with IRCs is that they almost always never seem to work right for me. Oh well......

[Baniboy]

The Simpleton, on 09 June 2010 - 09:54 AM, said:

Looks like I got onto this thread pretty late - first of all, a big thank you to Soviet Rathe for making this possible - your dedication to this forum is really praiseworthy. Actually I noticed this thread earlier and got into the channel using Pidgin, but thanks to the time difference whenever I logged in the room was empty (rather, it was inactive). So till now I haven't had a chance to use the IRC to chat, but I hope to do so sometime soon. I hope the other members will keep up their support too

Rob's post covers most of the things one needs to know about IRC - thanks for writing Rob! My only gripe with IRCs is that they almost always never seem to work right for me. Oh well......

I had completely forgot you could use Pidgin for IRC! Thanks for your unintended reminder! Now I don't have to keep XChat running..


And yes Soviet good job on the IRC. I hope it'll get more users. Anwiii is there 24/7 but doesn't say anything haha. Anyway I'm in there when I can. You inactive ones, turn notifications on so you see when people are talking in the IRC!

[Soviet Rathe]

rob86, on 08 June 2010 - 06:44 PM, said:

To be safe on IRC requires only the same common sense you would use on any other part of the internet. One slight difference is that (depending on the Admin's server configuration) your I.P. address may be visible to anyone. This is not very different than most things on the internet and really not a cause for extra concern. On Windows, to protect yourself against port scans etc you can download a free FireWall such as ZoneAlarm. You should have one anyway, regardless of IRC. On Linux you already have a firewall and you probably know how to secure your computer somewhat anyway.

You can also use a free Proxy on most IRC clients (if the Network permits.. which Soviet's claims not to but I used one) if you are paranoid.

Another thing to know about IRC is that most clients support DCC file transfers.. which is just a file transfer like you would have on any IM Messenger such as MSN. The only difference is it is possible for viruses to be sent out just like they are in email. This is a common tactic used in VERY popular channels on popular networks. Once again, this is relatively harmless unless you are very careless-- just DO NOT run ANY files you from people you don't trust. They will not download if you do not accept them, and some clients such as mIRC have potentially dangerous file types ignored by default. Common sense. Having an AntiVirus would help make things safer.

Here's a very important and less obvious safety tip. Some IRC clients such as the most popular mIRC has a very powerful scripting language. This means like any programming language, it has the potential to be used for evil purposes. For anyone running Linux.. you should already know that you should not run mysterious commands in the terminal. This applies to IRC as well.

DO NOT TYPE/PASTE ANY COMMANDS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND OR THAT LOOK SUSPICIOUS! There are a few ways for a knowledgeable mIRC scripter to encrypt a command, tell you to run it, and it could delete (mostly) EVERYTHING on your Windows computer. All mIRC commands begin with a slash (/) so do NOT feel curious if you see someone tell you "Hey guyzz.. this is AWESOME.. look at this... paste this line. /ZXVJOSADJ@#O%$J@#OJOSAJDSOZJCOXZCOSKFSOAK@#O$K@#OK%_!)%$". The only danger would come from actually copy and pasting this persons command and using it. Duh, don't do it!

If you're paranoid, you can use a client that doesn't support that style of scripting. But you are most likely safe.

Also, you don't want to click on strange web URL (links). Once again, this is just like if you were chatting or e-mailing anywhere else.


Well there are some safety tips. It is my belief that mIRC is perfectly safe as long as you follow the common sense you would always use on the internet. FireWall, AntiVirus will do well in protecting Windows users.

The 'dangerous command' I mentioned does sound scary given it's potential for destruction, but you will probably never see anyone attempt this anyway. I wouldn't worry about it. It's no different than someone giving you destructive Linux commands on a support forum or a Windows .bat file that deletes everything.

Keep in mind that as of this moment the server is run by Soviet's friend and has a small amount of users and the #KnowledgeSutra chat in particular only contains members of this forum. This means it is unlikely that somebody is going to target you for any kind of hacking attack anyway but it is prudent to be aware of the possibilities.

Soviet or anyone else might have more to add..

That pretty much covers everything you need to know good job rob. OOOOOO that rhymed loool
IRC is just as secure as any other messenger, just better!

[Ash-Bash]

Can I just say why the topic title says 'Official Knowledgesutra Irc' and the topic start says 'The un-official KnowledgeSutra IRC is now up!'???

[anwiii]

Ash-Bash, on 10 June 2010 - 04:34 PM, said:

Can I just say why the topic title says 'Official Knowledgesutra Irc' and the topic start says 'The un-official KnowledgeSutra IRC is now up!'???

the title was soviets words. opaque edited the post to make it contradictory . so like i said before, it was made SEMI official when opaque moved the topic to announcements. so it is official non official at the same time right now. it's in a limbo state to see where soviet will take it and opaque has put his trust and faith in to the determination of soviet. thus, read my post. sometimes things don't have to be announced official to be semi official

ash- just read between the lines :)opaque is changing with the times. i am surpised that he kept the chat room going and i am surprised he is allowing soviet to link the irc to this forum. it's a good thing. don't question it

[Soviet Rathe]

As soon as the MyCENT is back up I hope to see everyone in the IRC!! and i'm going to try and talk OpaQue into replacing the current webchat with an embedded irc client

[web_designer]

i am really amazed with your dedication, soviet. you are still there in the IRC trying and trying in spite of all the mess, thank you soviet really you are doing a great job.

P.S: if you have the same dedication in everything you do in your life,i am sure that someday you will be a great man

[deadmad7]

Soviet Rathe, on 06 June 2010 - 07:49 AM, said:

well actually the IRC will be tied to the forums soon, I'm making a bot that will fetch new posts and announce them in the IRC an IRC is way more convenient then a bulky, browser based shoutbox, and you can have the client make sound when someone speaks.. just like the shout box

Hmmm... I haven't seen anything like that before... and how are you exactly going to have it say new posts? Through a IPB API or something? IF you can do that, it will the greatest thing EVER! And maybe you can include myCENT updates and post updates... so it says

'Deadmad7 has posted in the Topic [i][url="http://www.knowledgesutra.com/forums/topic/72205-official-knowledgesutra-irc/"]Official Knowledgesutra Irc[/url][/i]

or

'Deadmad7 has earned 0.43 myCENTS in the last 5 hours.'

Something like that would be really great -- something the forum doesn't have yet.. it already has a SHOUTROOM, sounds when posting, and you can look in the forum for new posts.

So, if you could include things like that.. you can become UNIQUE and people would rather use the IRC and they have reason to use it. For now, you're doing a great job I just hope you can start the trivia soon enough!

Baniboy, on 09 June 2010 - 03:14 PM, said:

I had completely forgot you could use Pidgin for IRC! Thanks for your unintended reminder! Now I don't have to keep XChat running..

You don't even have to have Pidgin for IRC, just open up OPERA then go into a irc link and it has a built-in awesome IRC client! It's better than most IRC clients I have seen and it really works and it doesn't even slow down your browsing.

web_designer, on 09 July 2010 - 10:41 AM, said:

i am really amazed with your dedication, soviet. you are still there in the IRC trying and trying in spite of all the mess, thank you soviet really you are doing a great job.

P.S: if you have the same dedication in everything you do in your life,i am sure that someday you will be a great man

^^^Wd, you said it better than anyone can!!

[rob86]

There's a lot of potential in an IRC chat. There is a VERY detailed statistics script either TCL script or mIRC (can't remember) that counts the statistics of what people say in the chatroom, blocking out short words, words like "lol", repeated lines, spam links, etc.. and what not..and produces graphed statistics and channel activity etc etc more information then you could ever need. Very impressive script. The point is, if it's open source (I don't know?) that's already a premade MyCent thing made for IRC.. just needs to calculate MyCents out of the already programmed statistics gathering.

I thought I overheard OpaQue talking about MyCents for chat, well that would be a good place to start. Even if the "MyCent" rate was reduced to take into account the massive amount of typing people do when they chat..

It'd be alot more reliable than the current chatroom. There are so many benefits! The IPB chat could be replaced by a simple web irc client so everyone could benefit. Advanced users could benefit from IRC, and beginnner chatters could benefit from the reliability of a chat that actually works.. Some days I can't even get on the IPB chat.

The only thing wrong with the IRC right now is that everyone is using the IPB chatroom instead..because it's "In yo face". There are three people in the IRC at most times, not that bad considering the iPB chat isn't usually full of activity either..yet

[Soviet Rathe]

deadmad7, on 09 July 2010 - 10:54 AM, said:

Hmmm... I haven't seen anything like that before... and how are you exactly going to have it say new posts? Through a IPB API or something? IF you can do that, it will the greatest thing EVER! And maybe you can include myCENT updates and post updates... so it says

'Deadmad7 has posted in the Topic [i][url="http://www.knowledgesutra.com/forums/topic/72205-official-knowledgesutra-irc/"]Official Knowledgesutra Irc[/url][/i]

or

'Deadmad7 has earned 0.43 myCENTS in the last 5 hours.'

Something like that would be really great -- something the forum doesn't have yet.. it already has a SHOUTROOM, sounds when posting, and you can look in the forum for new posts.

So, if you could include things like that.. you can become UNIQUE and people would rather use the IRC and they have reason to use it. For now, you're doing a great job I just hope you can start the trivia soon enough!

You don't even have to have Pidgin for IRC, just open up OPERA then go into a irc link and it has a built-in awesome IRC client! It's better than most IRC clients I have seen and it really works and it doesn't even slow down your browsing.


^^^Wd, you said it better than anyone can!!

a PHP IRC bot can easily achieve this, kinda like an RSS
the MyCENT part could be a little more complicated, my friend and I are working on a cool bot that will do EVERYTHING we could ever want it to.

i'm also looking for a small IRC client OpaQue can embed, if I can't fine one without watermarks I'll have one made

[Soviet Rathe]

I guess no one is interested in the IRC. it's still up... only a few have ever joined.. disappointed.

[web_designer]

Soviet Rathe, on 09 November 2010 - 01:02 AM, said:

I guess no one is interested in the IRC. it's still up... only a few have ever joined.. disappointed.

sorry to hear that soviet i agree with you this is so disappointing
but i think you did all you can and what is happening in the IRC is the same is happening in the whole forum, lack of activity. so, i think it is a good thing if you look at it from another corner. i mean if the the members are active in the whole forum but not in the IRC, then this is a real problem. but now, i think you should be satisfied or feeling good since it is the same every where. so cheer up, and i hope everything will be great soon. and thanks for your hard work .

[Eza]

The link in the signature leads to this topic. And it is difficult to find a link that leads to the chat room. To attract visitors the first thing to do might be to make it easy for an interested possible visitor to find the link to the place the visitor would be welcomed. The option to download a chat program to be able to enter the chat room is not very attractive. It is asked a lot to download a program just to be able to see if somebody in the chat room.

There is a link that opens the chat room. But this link is almost hidden.

Edited by Eza, 26 November 2010 - 10:31 AM.