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[rpgsearcherz]

Gotta vent about this -- me and Anwii both have the same issue right now and I think I narrowed it down.

I have lost literally around 20 posts now (some of which took 15+ mins to post, as they were detailed -- and I ended up just putting in much shorter versions of them the second time). Pretty annoying.


Anyways, I think the issue has to do with the QuickReply. I have noticed that if I use the full reply it *always* works, whereas with the QuickReply it sometimes does, sometimes does not. On one post QR failed so I tried it 3x, failed all 3 times. Tried normal reply, worked on the first try.

Just wanted to share that with you all/get my frustration out on it, lol.

[anwiii]

although i am sure the quick reply has it's problems too, the post not showing is not just due to the quick reply since i never use it people were already complaining about the quick reply a while back and although we were assured it was fixed, i never trusted it and always replied the standard way. so the 3 posts i made which i mentioned in another topic were from a standard reply.

i am curious though now if this is limited to replies only or if anyone tried to start a new topic that didn't show in a non moderated area of the forum. it's something think about too just in case.

[rpgsearcherz]

It's real weird. I haven't had any threads not show up yet.

I did notice an issue earlier though when starting a thread -- it errored out on me saying the forums were out of memory (something about it being at 194 MB's of memory already -- it was an exact number like 194023913) and I ended up accidentally creating three threads because of it.

I have a feeling that if the normal reply is having the same issues, then most of our problems are due to the error with forums being full of memory.

[magnafrost]

194?! Isn't that way too small! I guess the good thing is its pretty easy to solve by adding some more memory.

[rpgsearcherz]

magnafrost, on 03 July 2010 - 01:09 AM, said:

194?! Isn't that way too small! I guess the good thing is its pretty easy to solve by adding some more memory.

I thought it was pretty small too but maybe the forums are hosted on a server with like 256 MB of ram (since before, it didn't really have any issues -- why upgrade what wasn't broken?). If that's the case then I can understand the RAM problem.

Or it may be on a shared host as well (like a lot of our hosting packages are).

Either way, hopefully that knowledge helps the the admin in some way, and maybe it'll help solve some of the issues we've been having.

[OpaQue]

It has to be the RICH TEXT editor trying to Load Javascript on the fly. However, I have disabled the RICH TEXT editor. This must solve this issue.

thank you.

[OpaQue]

HaAHaHa... Thank God! QUICK REPLY is gone forever. atleast, something good happened. I edited all forums and disabled quick reply in all.

NEXT QUESTION: Should RICH TEXT EDITOR be enabled?

[rpgsearcherz]

OpaQue, on 03 July 2010 - 06:39 AM, said:

HaAHaHa... Thank God! QUICK REPLY is gone forever. atleast, something good happened. I edited all forums and disabled quick reply in all.

NEXT QUESTION: Should RICH TEXT EDITOR be enabled?

Really I don't see the use in it. I think normal text is fine, considering we still have formatting choices (bold, underline, sizes, alignment, etc.). So I really don't see the point in it to begin with.

I'd definitely say to keep it off if it's going to cause more complications.


About the missing posts, I'll let you know if I run into any more.

[rpgsearcherz]

deadmad7, on 03 July 2010 - 06:56 AM, said:

Nope, the normal text editor is not fine, sure YOU CAN edit and bold things and underline stuff, but what about the people who are not familiar with the html codes and things? What will people who just want to use KnowledgeSutra to share opinions and they don't know all the html things. I'll actually liked the images in the rich text editor.. it showed it while you editing it, it looked nicer.

Ah, I had never even used it.

As for your other post, maybe my post on normal reply just happened to come at the right time (after ram usage was freed) or something. I was mostly just posting that information as a debugging method.

[deadmad7]

anwiii, on 03 July 2010 - 12:00 AM, said:

although i am sure the quick reply has it's problems too, the post not showing is not just due to the quick reply since i never use it people were already complaining about the quick reply a while back and although we were assured it was fixed, i never trusted it and always replied the standard way. so the 3 posts i made which i mentioned in another topic were from a standard reply.

i am curious though now if this is limited to replies only or if anyone tried to start a new topic that didn't show in a non moderated area of the forum. it's something think about too just in case.

I'll personally used only the quick reply option when posting, i only use the standard way if I want to quote somebody, the quick reply and standard reply have been the same thing for me, I don't know why rpgsearcherz's quick and standard are different.

magnafrost, on 03 July 2010 - 01:09 AM, said:

194?! Isn't that way too small! I guess the good thing is its pretty easy to solve by adding some more memory.

Yup, I'm wondering the same thing, a really big forum like this one, with 1000's of guests online would require alot more memory then that, alot more actually...

OpaQue, on 03 July 2010 - 06:26 AM, said:

It has to be the RICH TEXT editor trying to Load Javascript on the fly. However, I have disabled the RICH TEXT editor. This must solve this issue.

thank you.

Yay! I have never actually been fond of the rich text editor, I like the standard html one -- in my eyes it looks more neat and I can type more quick (somehow ) in the html version, but what are you going to be doing for the users that like the RICH TEXT editor? Are you going to fix it? Because HTML EDITORS are getting old now, rich text editor are more comfortable and more user friendly for people who don't know much about computers and just want to post in the forums, those people are going to be having a problem now... I think you should get another text editor from IPB and use those instead of the IPB given ones, or at least fix the RAM memory issue in your servers.

OpaQue, on 03 July 2010 - 06:39 AM, said:

HaAHaHa... Thank God! QUICK REPLY is gone forever. atleast, something good happened. I edited all forums and disabled quick reply in all.

NEXT QUESTION: Should RICH TEXT EDITOR be enabled?

aww man I liked the quick reply, is this a temporary thing? or is it going to gone for ever? and how is disabling the quick reply 'something good' happening?

And YES, please ENABLE RICH TEXT EDITOR.

[deadmad7]

rpgsearcherz, on 03 July 2010 - 06:42 AM, said:

Really I don't see the use in it. I think normal text is fine, considering we still have formatting choices (bold, underline, sizes, alignment, etc.). So I really don't see the point in it to begin with.

I'd definitely say to keep it off if it's going to cause more complications.


About the missing posts, I'll let you know if I run into any more.

Nope, the normal text editor is not fine, sure YOU CAN edit and bold things and underline stuff, but what about the people who are not familiar with the html codes and things? What will people who just want to use KnowledgeSutra to share opinions and they don't know all the html things. I'll actually liked the images in the rich text editor.. it showed it while you editing it, it looked nicer.

[anwiii]

personally, as long as people can post, ANYTHING that is acting funny or strange or a possible root of a problem should be disabled for the time being. the only exception would be the chat room unless the chat room is a direct serious direct cause of something else going wrong. i HIGHLY suggest gjust getting the forums working even if it's at a basic low level. that way, there will be no complaints when the credit system is back up, we can enable more features GRADUALLY on by one. this is all i have to say for the time being....

[rpgsearcherz]

anwiii, on 03 July 2010 - 08:11 AM, said:

personally, as long as people can post, ANYTHING that is acting funny or strange or a possible root of a problem should be disabled for the time being. the only exception would be the chat room unless the chat room is a direct serious direct cause of something else going wrong. i HIGHLY suggest gjust getting the forums working even if it's at a basic low level. that way, there will be no complaints when the credit system is back up, we can enable more features GRADUALLY on by one. this is all i have to say for the time being....

This is a pretty good idea as well. I never use the forums though, and I think it would be better to have the old shoutbox back. With that I would post a lot since every page had it and it would keep me remembering about it.

[anwiii]

rpgsearcherz, on 03 July 2010 - 08:24 AM, said:

This is a pretty good idea as well. I never use the forums though, and I think it would be better to have the old shoutbox back. With that I would post a lot since every page had it and it would keep me remembering about it.

what?!? you are on record pace today my friend! haha you have almost 50 posts! do you mean you would post more than 50 posts a day if the shoutbox was back???

[rpgsearcherz]

anwiii, on 03 July 2010 - 08:33 AM, said:

what?!? you are on record pace today my friend! haha you have almost 50 posts! do you mean you would post more than 50 posts a day if the shoutbox was back???

Your quote made me notice a typo -- meant to say I don't use the chatroom, lol.

BTW, the shoutbox did spark a lot of conversations in the past though.

[magnafrost]

OpaQue, on 03 July 2010 - 06:39 AM, said:

HaAHaHa... Thank God! QUICK REPLY is gone forever. atleast, something good happened. I edited all forums and disabled quick reply in all.

NEXT QUESTION: Should RICH TEXT EDITOR be enabled?

Noooo !! I want the Quick reply back ! I dont care if its bugged for now . I'd rather do a Ctrl-A , Ctrl-C before clicking post than to click on Add Reply and wait for the page to load. If people like anwii prefer the second way fine! Lets try to fix the issue and not remove the feature !

[anwiii]

magnafrost, on 03 July 2010 - 09:01 AM, said:

Noooo !! I want the Quick reply back ! I dont care if its bugged for now . I'd rather do a Ctrl-A , Ctrl-C before clicking post than to click on Add Reply and wait for the page to load. If people like anwii prefer the second way fine! Lets try to fix the issue and not remove the feature !

if something is buggy, the best thing to do for the time being is disable it until we can figure out a fix. this is one of the biggest complaints. buggy features that aren't disabled are upsetting the members here. it makes absolutely NO SENSE to enable something that is buggy and upsetting the majority of the users. NONE.

[web_designer]

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HaAHaHa... Thank God! QUICK REPLY is gone forever. atleast, something good happened. I edited all forums and disabled quick reply in all.

NEXT QUESTION: Should RICH TEXT EDITOR be enabled?

i usually use the quick reply editor, never used the standard one just now when the quick reply editor is disabled, i like to use it because it shows in the same page as the posts are, this way i can write and check posts if i want to add anything more.

so yes i support enabling it again BUT only if it works fine, if not then don't do it please.


@ rpgsearcherz
if you have some posts never show up maybe because they need moderators approval, now there are sections where even posts not only topics need approval, just like "just for knowledge" category.

[deadmad7]

anwiii, on 03 July 2010 - 09:19 AM, said:

if something is buggy, the best thing to do for the time being is disable it until we can figure out a fix. this is one of the biggest complaints. buggy features that aren't disabled are upsetting the members here. it makes absolutely NO SENSE to enable something that is buggy and upsetting the majority of the users. NONE.

I agree with Anwiii with here, even though I LOVE the quick reply, it simply has to be disabled here or a user who doesn't know it is buggy might lose their posts and get p*ssed off... especially a new user -- they get mad very easily

OMG I JUST LOST THIS POST EVEN IN THE STANDARD REPLY PAGE... THANK GOODNESS I COPIED IT BEFORE I POSTED! Now, I know that even standard reply is not safe...

BE CAREFUL EVERYONE!

Edited by deadmad7, 03 July 2010 - 02:56 PM.

[rob86]

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[anwiii]

deadmad7, on 03 July 2010 - 02:56 PM, said:

I agree with Anwiii with here, even though I LOVE the quick reply, it simply has to be disabled here or a user who doesn't know it is buggy might lose their posts and get p*ssed off... especially a new user -- they get mad very easily

OMG I JUST LOST THIS POST EVEN IN THE STANDARD REPLY PAGE... THANK GOODNESS I COPIED IT BEFORE I POSTED! Now, I know that even standard reply is not safe...

BE CAREFUL EVERYONE!

yea, i just lost another one just now in another thread. i didn't copy it first

[rpgsearcherz]

Well, that means the reply method and the rich text editor are both irrelevant in terms of the issue. I still think the memory could be what is causing the problems because if it runs out of memory, it would be neglecting to run commands while waiting for some to free up -- in this case, it would be forgetting to run the actual post commands.

[truefusion]

I've always used the quick reply and have never had a problem. Of course, i always use the simple editor. I only use the full editor when i want to preview my posts before posting. The rich text editor brings too many problems, both visually and within the code itself. As a moderator, editing posts that the rich text editor has messed up is not a fun task, especially when the user had copied content from from a site with different fonts and font sizes. What about those who are used to a rich text editor and are now to use the simple editor? Learning BB code is not a hard task, and even the simple text editor has those rich text editor buttons at the top. Trial and error will teach them how to use BB code if they choose not to look at the BB code help page. They have more freedom with their text formating with the simpler editor than with the rich text editor. I'd say bring back quick reply and disable the rich text editor. I have yet to lose a post; i have had the session time out on me due to how long it took me to write something out, but in the next page it would show me my entire post for me to copy and paste it back after refreshing the session. But if i ever lose a post in the same way as described in this topic, that can help me figure out the problem.

If your browser has good session management, you can go back in history and see your post again. I know this works in Opera.

[rpgsearcherz]

truefusion, on 03 July 2010 - 07:03 PM, said:

I've always used the quick reply and have never had a problem. Of course, i always use the simple editor. I only use the full editor when i want to preview my posts before posting. The rich text editor brings too many problems, both visually and within the code itself. As a moderator, editing posts that the rich text editor has messed up is not a fun task, especially when the user had copied content from from a site with different fonts and font sizes. What about those who are used to a rich text editor and are now to use the simple editor? Learning BB code is not a hard task, and even the simple text editor has those rich text editor buttons at the top. Trial and error will teach them how to use BB code if they choose not to look at the BB code help page. They have more freedom with their text formating with the simpler editor than with the rich text editor. I'd say bring back quick reply and disable the rich text editor. I have yet to lose a post; i have had the session time out on me due to how long it took me to write something out, but in the next page it would show me my entire post for me to copy and paste it back after refreshing the session. But if i ever lose a post in the same way as described in this topic, that can help me figure out the problem.

If your browser has good session management, you can go back in history and see your post again. I know this works in Opera.

I thought Opera and Firefox were both from the same company (Mozilla). If so, you'd think Firefox would allow that as well, but it doesn't -- at least mine isn't.

[deadmad7]

truefusion, on 03 July 2010 - 07:03 PM, said:

If your browser has good session management, you can go back in history and see your post again. I know this works in Opera.

Yeah, you can do that in Firefox too! But I use Chrome most of the time so it doesn't work...

rpgsearcherz, on 03 July 2010 - 07:30 PM, said:

I thought Opera and Firefox were both from the same company (Mozilla). If so, you'd think Firefox would allow that as well, but it doesn't -- at least mine isn't.

No, where are you Browser Knowledge, boy? Firefox is made by Mozilla and Opera is a company by itself.