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#1 inea

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 01:05 PM

Can you remove the image of the pompkin from the first page please?

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 01:11 PM

It is a bad image in what way? Please elaborate.

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 01:11 PM

It is an orange, and why is it bad?

It is a little weird but there is no reason for it to be removed.

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 05:24 PM

It looks bad and it is freigthning. It makes me afraid. And it is not user friendly to have an image on the first page that annoys people and gives them a bad mood.

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 06:27 PM

View Postinea, on 20 September 2010 - 05:24 PM, said:

It looks bad and it is freigthning. It makes me afraid. And it is not user friendly to have an image on the first page that annoys people and gives them a bad mood.

I think the orange with the creepy face is from a youtube video "series". I imagine you can just upload a couple of images yourself to the gallery and it will replace the orange if it bothers you. There doesn't seem to be any rules as to what goes in the gallery (but there probably should be).

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 06:58 PM

then frankly you need to toughen up...

I dont see the point of the gallery thing to be honest but if an image like that scares you then the internet is not the place for you to be im afraid.

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 03:34 PM

View Postrob86, on 20 September 2010 - 06:27 PM, said:

I think the orange with the creepy face is from a youtube video "series". I imagine you can just upload a couple of images yourself to the gallery and it will replace the orange if it bothers you. There doesn't seem to be any rules as to what goes in the gallery (but there probably should be).
Thanks for the advice. Uploading 3 pictures removed the picture with the photoshopped orange from the main page of the forum. A personal opinion is that the main page looks much more friendly and inviting now.

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 03:49 PM

Whoops my finger slipped...

:D

The image appears to have returned...

Im fighting censorship based on the minority here for a valid reason!

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 08:39 PM

There is nothing wrong with the image. It doesn't violate our ToS and is far from "scary" or "frightening". It's an orange with eyes and a mouth. Nothing more. It doesn't make the home page more or less inviting. If you don't like the image you can block it from being displayed via a browser function. There is no reason for the staff to remove it.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 06:29 AM

Don't get me wrong but that gallery on top takes too much time for dial-up users to download. This is the reason it should be at the bottom or there should be option for users to disable it if they are logged on. I don't know if this option exist in IPB. But it is annoying to see the gallery many times. Reason for my annoyance is that i'm using dialup and GPRS. No offense to any image poster.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 01:30 AM

now this user is spamming the image galleries with images. this is just WRONG. i hope this user get warned soon because this users on line posts and spam are getting way out of hand!

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 03:19 AM

If the gallery is going to exist, I think there should be some rules regarding what goes into it. Things uploaded to the gallery should be something that a member made, example: a banner/signature, drawings or an artistic photo taken by the member. A show case for the talents of the members. It was being used for this, but some it degraded into images of schematics, pictures of computer and fruits. I don't think what INEA is doing is wrong, because there are no rules, it's a free-for-all. It shouldn't be this way, but until OpaQue makes the rules, I'd say nobody's doing anything wrong.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 03:22 AM

It's alright kids, the "pompkin" is more frightened of you than you are of it :D Inea, you did a pretty bad job of posting images to block the orange... just google searched for a computer and a dragon :P Well, it looks crappier now than before if you ask me. I hope these things get removed...

Haha can't believe I never found this thread before :lol:

uh oh... didn't see rob's post -

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If the gallery is going to exist, I think there should be some rules regarding what goes into it. Things uploaded to the gallery should be something that a member made, example: a banner/signature, drawings or an artistic photo taken by the member. A show case for the talents of the members. It was being used for this, but some it degraded into images of schematics, pictures of computer and fruits. I don't think what INEA is doing is wrong, because there are no rules, it's a free-for-all. It shouldn't be this way, but until OpaQue makes the rules, I'd say nobody's doing anything wrong.
True, there are no rules on this but the only thing I uploaded was some stuff that I made and some internet characters... that doesn't even come close to what inea did...

Edited by deadmad7, 23 September 2010 - 03:25 AM.


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Posted 23 September 2010 - 06:29 AM

i agree with rob. there should be rules. i disagree however about anea. that user is 100% wrong. that user is spamming the same images in the image gallery and this user has had nothing beneficial to offer this forum as of yet with 1 line post. and who gets frightened about an orange for gosh sakes? if you ask me, this user freaks me out more than the orange. rob- there is absolutely no substitute for common sense. rules or no rules. i wouldn't go so far as to say that it has to be something someone created themselves, but copyrights should definately apply. i was against having this image gallery at the top of the main forum to begin with. now the forum is looking more unprofessional than it already did thanks to the NEWBIE! i am actually beginning to like bikerman. he may talk a lot of crap, but at least it's not spam. i hope opaque gets his personal affairs in order soon so we can concentrate on this forum more with ideas and suggestions.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 09:22 AM

Inea stop being a douche. (i cant use the terminology i would like to so i have to use American insults... my life is at an all time low.)

I re-uploaded the image that your childish little brain is afraid of and i will continue to upload it to combat your censorship.

You have a problem? Then talk big man...

I would ask the mods to intervene but he hasnt broken the TOS either, yet....

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:22 PM

An image will be removed if found to violate the rules of the forums. I believe the rules, at least a general form of them, are already in place for the gallery. If you are not allowed to post them in the forums, then it should be obvious that the same rules apply for the gallery.

That being said, there is no need to be rude to the topic starter simply because he was courageous enough to post his thoughts on a certain image.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:57 PM

hmmm, this is a weird and interesting topic. so here is what i think, i like the gallery because it is a way to share images and photos with others and some are a very good photos, but i really don't like how it shows in the top of the forum. i really think it should be in the sidebar or in the bottom or in a separate page, even the "gallery" button shows floating in no where in the forum. and i really think it breaks the menu layout and opaque should notice that long time ago.

about the freaky orange or pumpkin as i like to call, well i don't think it is scary inea, but it surly makes me hate eating orange any more :D. and i don't think it should be removed because it doesn't affect the rules of the forum in any way, in fact, as long as it is an image made by a member here, then he has the right to upload it. so just look at it as a photoshoped work that has been done by a member. and it could be a creative work that may help others to learn more about photoshop.

besides, now, i really think that the gallery is very important, because now i use it to upload my photos and images that i use here, instead of uploading them to other sites like imageshake, and add link to the image here. uploading images and photos here is absolutely more beneficial and secure. so as long as we use the gallery to upload photos that we could use in the forum, that means they are fit the rules and could be posted.

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between, if you found that orange is scary then never please visit sotw section, it fills of scary monsters and freaky images that made as a signature :P.

edit:
oh great, i just checked, seems opaque fixed the "gallery" button. now,it is no longer breaks the menu layout :) thanks opaque, you did a great job opaque. and i feel relieved now ;) .

Edited by web_designer, 23 September 2010 - 07:46 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2010 - 06:45 AM

View Posttruefusion, on 23 September 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

An image will be removed if found to violate the rules of the forums. I believe the rules, at least a general form of them, are already in place for the gallery. If you are not allowed to post them in the forums, then it should be obvious that the same rules apply for the gallery.

That being said, there is no need to be rude to the topic starter simply because he was courageous enough to post his thoughts on a certain image.
I don't think its about the "ranting" of the image, I think why they (shadowx and maybe anwiii) are angry is that Inea posted some really really crappy images to cover it up.

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 07:17 AM

I am angry that an individual with minority views feels he has the right to censor publicly owned content for his own little mind despite the majority view being that it does not need censoring.

I will happily re-upload the image every time inea shifts it along. If it gets replaced by honest content then fair enough. But i wont bow to censorship ;)

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 09:34 AM

The name of 1 of the pictures is something like annoying picture. This indicates clearly that the pictures are ment to annoy other people. So it can be argued that deliberately and willingly try to annoy other users of the forum is not 1 of the best things to do.

If being annoying is 1 of the reasons that the pictures are made and even more that the pictures are put on the gallery there is no need to complain about it that such a picture gets reactions.

Another point is the rights issue. It seems the pictures of the orange with eyes and a mouth are made by somebody using photoshop. These pictures are put on the Gallery. Does this make the pictures free of rights? Uploading a picture to the gallery doesn't mean every computer owner and internet user has the right to copy the picture and download it on a website. Not even when it is the same website the picture was uploaded before. So the ownerships rights of internet content can be taken in consideration here. This remarks are made about the person who uploads the picture of the orange made by somebody else to the gallery. It might depend on the intentions of the person who made the picture if it is allowed for somebody else to copy and upload the picture. Just putting a picture on the internet itself doesn't indicate the picture is free of rights.

The same question whether or not it is allowed to copy and upload pictures regards the other pictures found on the internet too. When the gallery is used for showing a self made picture there is no issue about the ownership and user rights for the person who made and uploads the picture.




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Posted 24 September 2010 - 09:41 AM

View Postinea, on 24 September 2010 - 09:34 AM, said:

The name of 1 of the pictures is something like annoying picture. This indicates clearly that the pictures are ment to annoy other people. So it can be argued that deliberately and willingly try to annoy other users of the forum is not 1 of the best things to do.

If being annoying is 1 of the reasons that the pictures are made and even more that the pictures are put on the gallery there is no need to complain about it that such a picture gets reactions.

Another point is the rights issue. It seems the pictures of the orange with eyes and a mouth are made by somebody using photoshop. These pictures are put on the Gallery. Does this make the pictures free of rights? Uploading a picture to the gallery doesn't mean every computer owner and internet user has the right to copy the picture and download it on a website. Not even when it is the same website the picture was uploaded before. So the ownerships rights of internet content can be taken in consideration here. This remarks are made about the person who uploads the picture made by somebody else to the gallery. It might depend on the intentions of the person who made the picture if it is allowed for somebody else to copy and upload the picture. Just putting a picture on the internet itself doesn't indicate the picture is free of rights.

The same question whether or not it is allowed to copy and upload pictures regards the other pictures found on the internet too. When the gallery is used for showing self made pictures there is no issue about the ownership and user rights.

The picture/series is called "Annoying Orange" on Youtube, thats why the title is like that. And the ones that are uploaded are copies from the series... not photoshopped and if they were, they still belong to the publisher and since the title comes with the picture, it could promote the series (which is not meant ;) ). And I don't think that guy on youtube is gonna mind much because his creation is all over the web.

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 01:12 PM

Since i am not making a profit on the images the right of copyright doesnt really apply so much. Since i have also not altered the image at all i have pretty much gone along with the accepted standards of copyright on the internet.

You too uploaded other people's images to the web so if i am guilty then so are you ;)

I will keep re-uploading that image until you stop trying to censor the content based on your minority views. No-one else here has a problem with this image except you. If the majority of the forum did not want to see it i would consider not uploading it. But it is only you and you are trying to make me shut up and sit down because YOU dont like it, not because i am doing something wrong but because YOU want your OWN way, regardless of the feelings of others.

Good day.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 06:56 AM

If this battle between the 2 of you keeps going on I will apply a warning to both your accounts. That being said it looks like we have to monitor the image gallery more closley since people can't seem to be mature about it. In regards to the concern about it being slow for dial up users - putting it at the top or bottom of the page won't matter. It still has to load when you come to the website. Only alternative would be removing it completly from the home page.





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