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[mrdee]

I am going to post this here, since it seems te be hot news to me, I only discovered it earlier this morning.

It will also be a good test to see if my post goes through, in spite of what is happening.

When I entered the forum this morning, I was greeted with the following bunch of error messages:

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Warning: krsort() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given in /home/trap17/public_html/forums/admin/applications/forums/sources/classes/forums/class_forums.php on line 2533

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/trap17/public_html/forums/admin/applications/forums/sources/classes/forums/class_forums.php:2533) in /home/trap17/public_html/forums/admin/sources/classes/output/formats/html/htmlOutput.php on line 109

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/trap17/public_html/forums/admin/applications/forums/sources/classes/forums/class_forums.php:2533) in /home/trap17/public_html/forums/admin/sources/classes/output/formats/html/htmlOutput.php on line 120

I also noticed that, during the loading (enough time to notice it, given the forum's loading time), the favicon was different, but it changed to the usual Knowledgesutra favicon just before the page appeared.

I have had a similar experience before, and posted a question about it, but never received a reply.

I assume that, when the code runs OK and has been tried and tested, the script will usually not generate any errors, unless changes have been meade to iether the script, or the hosting (eg. upgrade PHP version or added/removed functions in PHP or the like).

Unless it is anything of the above, could it be there have been changes made in the script, which would sort of give me a hint one of the admins is doing some work/maintenance on the forun, or could a hacker be at work too?

At first, i though I was not going to get access to the forum, because the list where the subjects are normally shown was blank, but upon scrolling a bit further down, I noticed they were now shown below their usual place.

That is also why I am saying it will be a good test, if this post appears after i have sent it, it shows me that, in spite of the error messages, the forum is still operational.

However, it would be nice if someone could enlighten me, either a PHP expert who understands what those error messages are indicating, or someone who knows what is going on, whatever further information would really interest me.

Thank you in advance to whoever could shed a bit of light on this.

[anwiii]

from what i understand, the only one who touches the code is opaque. he was pretty strict with this policy. there is no hacker at work if what you mean by hacker is someone who is maliciously trying to hurt ks. i don't believe this is why you are seeing error messages. i have seen them from time to time, and then they disapear within an hour or so. i've just ignored them. as far as trying to understand where the error messages are coming from, i doubt anyone here can give you a solid answer. i think opaque would be the only person who can inform you on this.

also, it's not a FIR. someone else posted about this already about a week or two ago. even the original post shouldn't be considered an FIR because this has been going on for the last 3-4 months every so often.

Edited by anwiii, 16 April 2011 - 12:05 PM.

[mrdee]

Yes, that is exactly what I meant by hacker, someone malicious trying to mess up things here.
I also thought it was FIR, as it is only the second time I have seen it happen, and since I assumed, as I posted before, these things do not happen automatically, I thought I'd try to bring it to someone's attention, but it seems I have to watch over my shoulder when I post here lately.

[rvalkass]

mrdee, on 16 April 2011 - 10:35 AM, said:

When I entered the forum this morning, I was greeted with the following bunch of error messages:

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Warning: krsort() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given in /home/trap17/public_html/forums/admin/applications/forums/sources/classes/forums/class_forums.php on line 2533

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/trap17/public_html/forums/admin/applications/forums/sources/classes/forums/class_forums.php:2533) in /home/trap17/public_html/forums/admin/sources/classes/output/formats/html/htmlOutput.php on line 109

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/trap17/public_html/forums/admin/applications/forums/sources/classes/forums/class_forums.php:2533) in /home/trap17/public_html/forums/admin/sources/classes/output/formats/html/htmlOutput.php on line 120

The first error involves the function krsort(). This is a function that sorts an array in reverse order by the key elements (key reverse sort). It obviously expects to be passed an array to sort, but in this error message it has been passed absolutely nothing to sort. Not being familiar with the latest code for Invision Board, I'm not sure exactly which bit of the code is causing this error. The other two errors are caused by the first error.

The Invision forums contain a bit more information: http://webcache.goog...ww.google.co.uk

mrdee, on 16 April 2011 - 10:35 AM, said:

I also noticed that, during the loading (enough time to notice it, given the forum's loading time), the favicon was different, but it changed to the usual Knowledgesutra favicon just before the page appeared.

I haven't spotted that. For me the favicon is blank until the forum's specific favicon is loaded.

[mrdee]

Thank you for that explanation, rvalkass.

So, it was idle hope that someone was trying to do some maintenance here, as my initial thought was that a bulletin board which was up and running and working would normally not generate any script errors, just because of the fact that everything was ok in the script.

At least, people still get a polite answer from you, without any sarcasm or flaming, who said ignorance was bliss?

Thank you again.

[mrdee]

Sorry I have to jump in here again, but I was wondering if anyone has noticed things seem to be getting worse here.

• My MyCent credits have not updated for five days, although I have been posting every day.
  
• The PHP errors are now constantly appearing at the top.
  
• When I read a certain topic and I come back to the homepage, I seem to be forgotten by the forum and have to sign in again.
  
• Sometimes I have to try five or six times to open a topic for reading.

These are things I have began to notice from today (apart from the MyCents one, of course).
I would really like to know if other people are experiencing similar things, or if I will be the vilain again for posting about problems with this forum.
Another thing I need to mention: as I am typing this message, my cursor is completely invisible in this window, I am not sure whether that has anything to do with the forum, it is happening, nevertheless.

How I wish someone would sort this place out so it, at least, works properly, surely Opaque/Xisto must be losing business the way things are going, or don't they see that or don't they care?

I thought a web hosting company (or any company for that matter) existed in the first place to make a profit, not to drive customers away.
(Not that I am trying to interfere in the day to day running of Xisto, but I am just pointing out that things the way they are going cannot be good for business, it is obviously their problem, not mine).

By the way, as I mentioned in another post, I attached a screenshot of the favicon that appears while the site is loading, before going on to the familiar blue triangle:

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Edited by mrdee, 19 April 2011 - 09:37 AM.

[rvalkass]

mrdee, on 19 April 2011 - 09:34 AM, said:

My MyCent credits have not updated for five days, although I have been posting every day.

That's not something we have any control over unfortunately. OpaQue is the only one who seems to have control over the myCENTs system. If you're worried submit a support ticket and someone should look into it.

mrdee, on 19 April 2011 - 09:34 AM, said:

The PHP errors are now constantly appearing at the top.

Again, we have no access to the code, so there's nothing we can do. However, it does seem that the problem exists on other forums, suggesting it is a bug with either Invision Board or a common modification to it. The errors don't seem to be affecting the functionality massively either.

mrdee, on 19 April 2011 - 09:34 AM, said:

When I read a certain topic and I come back to the homepage, I seem to be forgotten by the forum and have to sign in again.

The same thing happens to me occasionally. The forum also likes to ignore the time I last visited the forums, so the list of new topics is often wrong for me. I just keep signing in - so far I haven't found a cause or workaround.

mrdee, on 19 April 2011 - 09:34 AM, said:

Sometimes I have to try five or six times to open a topic for reading.

Yup. Pages take an age to load, and you're often left with a blank white page when the page has finally finished loading. Nothing we can do - just keep reloading the page and hoping for the best.

mrdee, on 19 April 2011 - 09:34 AM, said:

Another thing I need to mention: as I am typing this message, my cursor is completely invisible in this window, I am not sure whether that has anything to do with the forum, it is happening, nevertheless.

I had that problem on an older version of the forums. I believe it was a problem with Invision Board that was eventually fixed, but I could be wrong. Try different browsers, disabling extensions, etc. to see if any of those are causing issues.

[mrdee]

Thanks again for your reply, rvalkass.

I do appreciate and understand where most of (if not all of) the errors come from, I also appreciate that none of us have any control at all over the things that are happening.

However, that does not alter the fact that most of those things are incredibly annoying, and the fact that SOMEONE should be able to do something about them (but does not seem interested to do so).

I will definitely get in touch with Xisto and submit a ticket if my credits do not get added in the next one or two days, as that is something that SHOULD work properly, how else are we going to get payment for our hosting together?

I remember that (in my case anyway) the MyCents system tended to be a bit irregular when it came to updating, but I think five days is a very long time, especially if you have been posting every day during that time.

Anyway, we will see how things go, and if I have to submit a ticket, I will see what Xisto have to say for themselves.

I really hope things can get sorted and start working properly again for a change.

Anyway, rvalkass, thank you for your contributions to the forums, people replying seem to have become an endangered species here.

[anwiii]

yes, please write a support ticket as i am getting tired of the same things being posted by you. i wouldn't be surprised if you are earning the most mycents from your repeated posts saying basically the same thing complaining about the forum

so yes, i think your best bet is to write a support ticket. if your issues don't get resolved, i would encourage you to move on somewhere else that you can be satisfied with.

.....and i thought *I* complained a lot

[mrdee]

You thought you complained a lot?

Well, yes, you do.
You have not stopped flaming me yet, even for saying things which are 100% true.
Never mind, if I have something to say, I will do so, and if things are not working properly I will mention them and no one is going to stop me from doing so.

By the way, are you a member of "the powers that be" here now?
If I go somewhere else, it'll be my decision, not because you urge me to.

Edited by mrdee, 19 April 2011 - 11:24 PM.